Why is there no substantial in-depth technical discussion of Plan 9
engineering for distributed systems here?
I finally figured it out - because the people who are working on those
things, the professionals at IBM and wherever else, are forbidden by
contract to talk about the current work, and
Why is there no substantial in-depth technical discussion of Plan 9
engineering for distributed systems here?
See this thread for a hint:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/comp.os.plan9/2PwnP0KfJ5A
See this thread for a hint:
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/comp.os.plan9/2PwnP0KfJ5A
I knew the outline of this but I hadn't read the exact thread. The
idea that there is an either/or choice is ridiculous. I would think
Rob Pike and RSC are plenty smart enough to run
As disruptive as they really are, the patents and
NDA are not a culprit here.
Plan 9 suffers from small hobbyist community.
This was exactly how I analyzed the situation myself - until I
randomly stumbled on United States Patent 8,380,765 for multi-pipes,
which completely changed my
You have no obligations at work to meet - that's the difference. They
can't just do what they please and get paid. I know that things were
different at Bell Labs but they are working for Google now.
I had thought Google was supposed to be a halfway decent place to work.
You create the Plan 9
vvs009 wrote:
People are not free to do everything what they want. They need to
work, they have families and they have no free time at all. There used
to be a community of young free hackers around Plan 9 but
unfortunately it's not young or big enough.
I think there is a hidden, and incorrect
People are not free to do everything what they want. They need to
work, they have families and they have no free time at all. There used
to be a community of young free hackers around Plan 9 but
unfortunately it's not young or big enough.
effectivness isn't measured on an axis labled 1/age,
if they really want plan9 they can still use it, they don't need help
installing it on their own.
It has a bunch of issues.
- touchpad doesn't work. Back in December With Richard's help I tried debugging
but didn't get far before running out of time.
- some of the function keys have weird side effects
- on reboot the kbd driver gets confused. You have to power cycle by
closing/reopening
Look.
I'm sorry nobody commented when you posted your software.
I'm sorry you and Eric et al. were working on sorta similar things at
the same time.
But can you cut it out with the fucking nuclear meltdowns all over
this list? And fix your email client so it replies to threads
properly?
john
John Floren wrote:
But can you cut it out with the fucking nuclear meltdowns all over
this list? And fix your email client so it replies to threads
properly?
No, I am not giving up, and I am going to take this a lot further. In
fact, it is very clear to me what the absolute purpose of my life
Plan 9 was (and perhaps always will be?) ahead of it's time. In
addition, though, it's really the minimalist aesthetic that has made
it far outlast most other academic software. All that intelligent
thought really did work to drastically raise the signal to noise ratio
of every aspect of the
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 02:25:27PM -0700, Nick LaForge wrote:
As of now, you could probably make the
analogy that your emails have been to GNU cat as everyone else's are
to /sys/src/cmd/cat.c.
I choose to interpret this to mean you think millions of people use
mycroft's messages every day,
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 11:21:39AM +, mycrof...@sphericalharmony.com wrote:
GIVE THE PLAN 9 GUYS ALL THE PLAN 9 THEY WANT GOOGLE!
They did. Now they all use macs. By installing Acme on OS X, they get
all the nerd cred they need to win pointless pissing matches, but they
finally,
Content aside, the brevity of your message also supports the actual,
intended meaning of what I wrote.
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 2:47 PM, Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in wrote:
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 02:25:27PM -0700, Nick LaForge wrote:
As of now, you could probably make the
analogy that your
On Sun, Mar 17, 2013 at 02:58:03PM -0700, Nick LaForge wrote:
Content aside, the brevity of your message also supports the actual,
intended meaning of what I wrote.
I begin to suspect 'content aside' is the prevailing attitude on 9fans.
khm
Q: Why are you upset? The IBM multi-pipe patent probably doesnt
overlap with hubfs, as a legal matter, because the patent is really
about the implementation details, not the general idea of muxing.
I understand these things pretty well. The problem is, everyone knows
that software patents are a
John Floren wrote:
But can you cut it out with the fucking nuclear meltdowns all over
this list? And fix your email client so it replies to threads
properly?
No, I am not giving up, and I am going to take this a lot further.
With all respect and appreciation for your mission - if you
Tassilo Philipp wrote:
if you want to make the world a better place, do exactly what you did.
Release free and open software, discuss ideas, get feedback, etc..
Thank you for this response. This allows me to clarify the issues.
I wrote and released free and open source software, and I made a
In Gödel Escher Bach by Hofstadter there is a wonderful dialogue
called Ant Fugue and it explores the idea of an ant colony as a
conscious mind. Even though each ant is just following
near-mechanical rules, the behavior of the colony as a whole can
exhibit intelligence, and Dr. Anteater explains
On Mon, Mar 18, 2013 at 01:58:31AM +, mycrof...@sphericalharmony.com wrote:
the behavior of the colony as a whole can exhibit intelligence,
...
Why not make a group of computers able to work together like an ant
colony, instead of a rigid structure like a grid?
Question answered before it
Here's an interesting idea for making a computer brain:
Create a big infrastructure of muxing pipes - like a tree or
a system of blood vessels or a system of neurons.
Organize this structure semantically, by letting you give a
name to each point on the tree.
Give the tree the ability to add new
Thank you for this response. This allows me to clarify the issues.
I wrote and released free and open source software, and I made a big
attempt to discuss the ideas and get feedback.
No one is willing to use the software, discuss the ideas, and give
feedback.
Dude, give it some time...
Sometimes people wonder: Why does software suck?
There are many answers.
One answer is the growth of needless complexity.
Why is needless complexity rewarded?
Because it is more easy to patent complex than simple.
You probably can't patent muxing pipes alone.
But you can patent Very
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