[9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line

2013-03-29 Thread phineas . pett
So I'm down with a fever today—really—and Glenda appeared to me in my fitful dreams and shared its true inner thoughts about the the Earth's inhabitants. It's single poigniant utterance was singularly pithy, and seemed to ring true on some cosmic level. For just a moment, I was at peace, and

Re: [9fans] Acme Edit scriptlets

2013-03-29 Thread dexen deVries
On Friday 29 of March 2013 01:38:06 Bence Fábián wrote: I did a quick writeup on little Edit scripts (well basicly sam(1) scripts) If anyone have more feel free to contribute. Maybe someone could put them on the wiki even. stuff i use: # clear whole window -- usefull with +Errors Edit ,d #

Re: [9fans] Acme Edit scriptlets

2013-03-29 Thread Peter A. Cejchan
Thanks, very nice, mates! I humbly add some of minebelow. Best, ++pac # ## Latin äëïñöüÿÄÅËÏÖÜ ## Greek αβγδεζηθλμνξπρστφψωΓΔΘΛΞΠΣΦΨΩ ## select text :;# select all text :;25# select from start to line 25 (inclusive) :25;# select from line 25 (inclusive) to EOF Edit

Re: [9fans] Acme Edit scriptlets

2013-03-29 Thread Peter A. Cejchan
Maybe it's time for an Acme wiki page? Also, could you share the plumbing rules you use (for my inspiration/learning)? Happy Easter, folks! ++pac On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 9:20 AM, dexen deVries dexen.devr...@gmail.comwrote: On Friday 29 of March 2013 01:38:06 Bence Fábián wrote: I did a quick

Re: [9fans] Acme Edit scriptlets

2013-03-29 Thread dexen deVries
On Friday 29 of March 2013 09:25:47 Peter A. Cejchan wrote: Also, could you share the plumbing rules you use (for my inspiration/learning)? 1) re-format PHP's strange error mesages into standard FILE_PATHNAME:LINE_NUMBER # ... called in FILE_PATHNAME on line LINE_NUMBER and defined in

Re: [9fans] GSoC 2013 - ~24 hours left for org application!

2013-03-29 Thread Richard Miller
which adds an option to the loader to generate a uImage What's the advantage of using a uImage instead of elf or raw binary?

Re: [9fans] GSoC 2013 - ~24 hours left for org application!

2013-03-29 Thread lucio
which adds an option to the loader to generate a uImage What's the advantage of using a uImage instead of elf or raw binary? Popularity? U-boot seems very fond of uImage format, my guess is that it fits well within their line of expertise. I'm also interested in the opinion of those in the

Re: [9fans] Acme Edit scriptlets

2013-03-29 Thread Richard Miller
# increase TAB indentation of selection # the ^. part ensures we indent only lines with content # and leave empty lines undisturbed Edit s,^.,TAB,g Very nice.

Re: [9fans] GSoC 2013 - ~24 hours left for org application!

2013-03-29 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 29 March 2013 09:38, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: Popularity? U-boot seems very fond of uImage format, my guess is that it fits well within their line of expertise. I'm also interested in the opinion of those in the know. Unlike Elf, the format is trivial.

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line

2013-03-29 Thread sl
NO STRINGS ATTACHED

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line

2013-03-29 Thread dexen deVries
On Friday 29 of March 2013 06:57:55 s...@9front.org wrote: NO STRINGS ATTACHED it made my day, too. technically those are zero-terminated arrays of Runes... ;-) -- dexen deVries [[[↓][→]]]

Re: [9fans] changes to loader elf generation

2013-03-29 Thread Sergey Zhilkin
Thanks ! 2013/3/29 ge...@plan9.bell-labs.com Sorry, `-Fphys' should be `-Pphys'. -- С наилучшими пожеланиями Жилкин Сергей With best regards Zhilkin Sergey

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line

2013-03-29 Thread erik quanstrom
are there larger or pdf versions of these. - erik ps. shouldn't the last poster use glenda not space glenda?

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line

2013-03-29 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Good work and funny; BTW, the server is down again. I challenge you to come up with a couple more, perhaps around quotes by Plan 9 creators (a recent one by Presotto comes to mind) -Skip On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:34 PM, phineas.p...@gmail.com wrote: So I'm down with a fever today—really—and

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line

2013-03-29 Thread andrey mirtchovski
I challenge you to come up with a couple more, perhaps around quotes by Plan 9 creators (a recent one by Presotto comes to mind) it's not confirmed that it was presotto.

Re: [9fans] GSoC 2013 - ~24 hours left for org application!

2013-03-29 Thread Steven Stallion
U-Boot also performs relocation based on the load address which simplifies the boot process. I'm working on an XIP kernel, which has cut around 100 LOC out of l.s. It's a small change, but simplifies things considerably. On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote:

Re: [9fans] GSoC 2013 - ~24 hours left for org application!

2013-03-29 Thread Steven Stallion
I should probably mention, there is no need for much of a U-Boot script anymore. To boot with a uImage, my bootcmd is quite literally tftpboot; bootm. Obviously we still have to do the same dance with plan9.ini, but I can live with that, though I do have some plans on how to deal with that later.

Re: [9fans] Acme Edit scriptlets

2013-03-29 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
this also works: # indent Edit ,x/^./ y/./ c/ / # outdent Edit ,x/^ / c// -Skip On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 2:50 AM, Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: # increase TAB indentation of selection # the ^. part ensures we indent only lines with content # and leave empty lines

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line

2013-03-29 Thread hiro
http://i.intma.in/images/e94b0201914dde087d6cf55e1c64edf9.gif 9front didn't like the face

[9fans] APE inconsistencies

2013-03-29 Thread Jeff Sickel
Does anyone know if the netdb.h inclusion of hstrerror(int) was just a copy/paste error? Of if hstrerror() was intended to be in the ape/lib/bsd source but got dropped somehow? -jas

Re: [9fans] APE inconsistencies

2013-03-29 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 29 March 2013 17:13, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote: Does anyone know if the netdb.h inclusion of hstrerror(int) was just a copy/paste error? Of if hstrerror() was intended to be in the ape/lib/bsd source but got dropped somehow? the linux manual page describes hstrerror as

Re: [9fans] APE inconsistencies

2013-03-29 Thread Jeff Sickel
On Mar 29, 2013, at 12:20 PM, Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote: the linux manual page describes hstrerror as obsolete Which distro? So many to choose from…

Re: [9fans] APE inconsistencies

2013-03-29 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 12:25:04PM -0500, Jeff Sickel wrote: On Mar 29, 2013, at 12:20 PM, Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote: the linux manual page describes hstrerror as obsolete Which distro? So many to choose from… It's sort of moot, since The Man wants you to stop

Re: [9fans] APE inconsistencies

2013-03-29 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 29 March 2013 17:41, Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in wrote: Anything using gethostbyname is probably going to want herror (and thus hstrerror) to be there. I see, although it seems herror/hstrerror is usually ifdef'd out, even when gethostbyname remains!

Re: [9fans] APE inconsistencies

2013-03-29 Thread Jeff Sickel
On Mar 29, 2013, at 1:00 PM, Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 March 2013 17:41, Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in wrote: Anything using gethostbyname is probably going to want herror (and thus hstrerror) to be there. I see, although it seems herror/hstrerror is usually

Re: [9fans] APE inconsistencies

2013-03-29 Thread tlaronde
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 01:26:53PM -0500, Jeff Sickel wrote: Though if I check recent FreeBSD manuals, it's all there. And given that this is part of the BSD extensions to APE, those might be more relevant than the Linux man pages. Not that BSD tries to be POSIX compliant any more or less

Re: [9fans] APE inconsistencies

2013-03-29 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 08:03:45PM +0100, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 01:26:53PM -0500, Jeff Sickel wrote: Though if I check recent FreeBSD manuals, it's all there. And given that this is part of the BSD extensions to APE, those might be more relevant than the

Re: [9fans] APE inconsistencies

2013-03-29 Thread tlaronde
On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 03:12:20PM -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote: It is a POSIX feature, I think. It's just an outmoded one. Supporting all revisions of POSIX is damn near impossible. Does APE have an explicit target? Well, it is not in SuSv3. And this is not already the latest... --

Re: [9fans] APE inconsistencies

2013-03-29 Thread Charles Forsyth
On 29 March 2013 20:10, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: It is a POSIX feature, I think. It's just an outmoded one. Supporting all revisions of POSIX is damn near impossible. Does APE have an explicit target? I think it's really a pragmatic matter of which interfaces are in some standard

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line

2013-03-29 Thread phineas . pett
Good work and funny; BTW, the server is down again. Thanks. Apparently it is time to find a new host ☹ I challenge you to come up with a couple more, perhaps around quotes by Plan 9 creators (a recent one by Presotto comes to mind) Not a bad idea, I'll see what I can do.

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line

2013-03-29 Thread phineas . pett
are there larger or pdf versions of these. There are, I had to pull them down because I was in danger of over-running my bandwidth quota, and after the server failure yesterday I didn't want any more problems. Since they are editable PDFs, they are large files (the whole package is over 50M).

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line

2013-03-29 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Mar 29 18:03:05 EDT 2013, phineas.p...@gmail.com wrote: are there larger or pdf versions of these. There are, I had to pull them down because I was in danger of over-running my bandwidth quota, and after the server failure yesterday I didn't want any more problems. Since they are

Re: [9fans] APE inconsistencies

2013-03-29 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On 2013-03-29, at 11:26 AM, Jeff Sickel wrote: Not that BSD tries to be POSIX compliant any more or less than GNU/Linux. FreeBSD is actually pretty good about adhering to POSIX/SUS/Xopen when you set the appropriate defines.

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line

2013-03-29 Thread phineas . pett
http://i.intma.in/images/e94b0201914dde087d6cf55e1c64edf9.gif That's clever. I wanted to do something with Kit-Cat from the start; the best I could manage was to put it on the bulkhead of the flying saucer in the movie poster. I think it has potential as an adjunct mascot—though there might be

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line

2013-03-29 Thread phineas . pett
I challenge you to come up with a couple more, perhaps around quotes by Plan 9 creators (a recent one by Presotto comes to mind) Ok, I give up; what is this quote attributed to Presotto? (I thought I would find it on cat-v, but I'm not turning up anything...)

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 ``propaganda server'' back on line

2013-03-29 Thread phineas . pett
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4398842 Whoa. Alright then. I'll see what I can do with that. ☺

Re: [9fans] APE inconsistencies

2013-03-29 Thread a
It should be indeed underlined that this is a compatibility feature, and not a POSIX feature. APE does an excellent job of making that distinction clear. Its use of defines to forcibly break syntax was quite educational as a young programmer. Anthony

Re: [9fans] GSoC 2013 - ~24 hours left for org application!

2013-03-29 Thread Steven Stallion
I've been using an Arndale board. It needed a small bit of rework to simplify power cycling the board, otherwise it's been quite good. On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:14 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: On Fri Mar 29 12:20:27 EDT 2013, sstall...@gmail.com wrote: I should probably