[9fans] [GSOC] graphics projects

2013-04-23 Thread David Hoskin
Hello 9fans, I am interested in working on either of the graphics-related projects suggested on the GSOC wiki page. For the window system enhancements, my immediate idea would be to implement title bars and dwm-style keyboard commands and tiling, but I fear that this would not be a large enough p

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

2013-04-23 Thread a
To clarify: Yes, participation in GSoC is governed by US financial regulations which restrict individuals (students or mentors) from certain countries, including Cuba and Iran (and a few others I can't think of off the top of my head, but it's a very short list). While I believe this comes from US

Re: [9fans] Raspberry 9

2013-04-23 Thread a
I use a Pi as my main terminal and find it generally works great. I had a bunch of USB issues until I made sure I was using a 10W USB adaptor and a powered hub. In the round after mine, they made some revisions to the power handling which I understand make it a bit less fussy. Anthony

[9fans] 21-bit runes

2013-04-23 Thread geoff
We are converting the system to 21-bit runes (also known as 32-bit runes, but only 21 bits are ever used). The first step will be pushing out versions of a few commands and library routines that have been modified to be agnostic about Rune size. The next step is recompiling the compilers and push

Re: [9fans] Raspberry 9

2013-04-23 Thread Andrés Domínguez
I'm very happy with Miller's port, it's the easiest way to try plan9 on real hardware. I'm planning to port my Go program to Go on plan9 on the pi. I also have a lot of USB errors with the keyboard connected to a powered hub (missing some key events because the errors), but it works plugging it di

Re: [9fans] Date woes

2013-04-23 Thread Bakul Shah
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:30:03 +0200 tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > IIRC, I did not use this Plan9 node since the CET Saving Time switch. > > When verifying a directory listing (fossil) I saw: > > The correct date (time) on the file (I mean the correct time in CEST). > > An incorrect time on the co

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

2013-04-23 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2013/4/23 Kurt H Maier : > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 04:36:23PM -0400, Matthew Veety wrote: >> >> That's fucking stupid. Can he still work on a project with out getting paid >> for it? Yes, but not through the context of GSoC. It is unfortunate. --dho > I'm pretty certain gsoc mentors don't have

Re: [9fans] Raspberry 9

2013-04-23 Thread erik quanstrom
> I've started trying this this week, and it works, but I get a lot of USB > errors from my keyboard. However so far the keyboard works. use a powered hub. - erik

Re: [9fans] Raspberry 9

2013-04-23 Thread Jeremy Jackins
I have little plan 9 experience and was up and running in maybe 10 minutes using Richard Miller's image. No speed bumps, let alone walls. On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Michael Stevens wrote: > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 05:13:52PM -0400, OrangeCalx01 wrote: >> I've seen 9 running on a raspberry p

Re: [9fans] Raspberry 9

2013-04-23 Thread Michael Stevens
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 05:13:52PM -0400, OrangeCalx01 wrote: > I've seen 9 running on a raspberry pi, and now am really interested in > buying a model A to run it on (maybe B to have some fun with 9P). But > before I jump the gun, are there any known brick walls associated with > this set up? Like

[9fans] Raspberry 9

2013-04-23 Thread OrangeCalx01
I've seen 9 running on a raspberry pi, and now am really interested in buying a model A to run it on (maybe B to have some fun with 9P). But before I jump the gun, are there any known brick walls associated with this set up? Like needing two usb instead of a hub? Thanks!

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

2013-04-23 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 04:36:23PM -0400, Matthew Veety wrote: > > That's fucking stupid. Can he still work on a project with out getting paid > for it? I'm pretty certain gsoc mentors don't have to sign noncompetes. khm

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

2013-04-23 Thread Calvin Morrison
On 23 April 2013 16:26, Iruatã Souza wrote: > how naive. Yes politics under the surface, but for Google, they don't want to deal with any of that, so they just restrict it. > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Calvin Morrison > wrote: >> Politics... no. >> >> It is most likely to do with taxes a

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

2013-04-23 Thread Matthew Veety
On Apr 23, 2013, at 16:33, andrey mirtchovski wrote: >> Politics... > > "residents and/or nationals of Iran, Syria, Cuba, Sudan, North Korea > and Myanmar (Burma), with whom we are prohibited by U.S. law from > engaging in commerce, are ineligible to participate" > > http://www.google-melange

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

2013-04-23 Thread andrey mirtchovski
> Politics... "residents and/or nationals of Iran, Syria, Cuba, Sudan, North Korea and Myanmar (Burma), with whom we are prohibited by U.S. law from engaging in commerce, are ineligible to participate" http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/document/show/gsoc_program/google/gsoc2013/help_page#4._Who_

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

2013-04-23 Thread Iruatã Souza
how naive. On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 5:21 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote: > Politics... no. > > It is most likely to do with taxes and other paperwork. it would be a > huge hassle for Google to employ students all over the world, more > hassle than it is worth apparently. > > > On 23 April 2013 03:02, s

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

2013-04-23 Thread Calvin Morrison
Politics... no. It is most likely to do with taxes and other paperwork. it would be a huge hassle for Google to employ students all over the world, more hassle than it is worth apparently. On 23 April 2013 03:02, steve wrote: > thats a real shame. > > its a pity when politics gets in the way of

Re: [9fans] Date woes

2013-04-23 Thread tlaronde
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 12:59:22PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > are you sure that these flags might not be part of the problem? > there is no clear answer to the question, "is rtc clock in local time > or gmt?" > > -r synchronize to the local real time clock, #r/rtc. > >

Re: [9fans] Date woes

2013-04-23 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Apr 23 12:16:36 EDT 2013, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:16:37AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > But this may affect the way the date is displayed, not the UTC? > > > > are you sure it's not a display issue? sometimes a double-timezone > > conversion or incorre

Re: [9fans] Scrolling considered harmful

2013-04-23 Thread tlaronde
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:18:37AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > > Since the new monitor is also with "screen" ratio (1600x900), I wonder > > if my untouched: > > > > vgasize=800x600x16 > > > > can not be a problem (because I can also switch to scrolling and > > resizing the window because

Re: [9fans] Date woes

2013-04-23 Thread tlaronde
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 11:16:37AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > But this may affect the way the date is displayed, not the UTC? > > are you sure it's not a display issue? sometimes a double-timezone > conversion or incorrect timezone conversion can screw up the date. > fossil uses time(0), wh

Re: [9fans] Scrolling considered harmful

2013-04-23 Thread erik quanstrom
> with a: > > ATI Technologies Radeon 9200SE 5964 (rev. 0x01) > > BTW, I had no problem before having to change the monitor. The new one > is a 20" LCD, and the thing can "decide" parameters on its own. With the > old monitor, I had not this... > > Since the new monitor is also with "screen" rat

Re: [9fans] Date woes

2013-04-23 Thread erik quanstrom
> But this may affect the way the date is displayed, not the UTC? are you sure it's not a display issue? sometimes a double-timezone conversion or incorrect timezone conversion can screw up the date. fossil uses time(0), which in theory should not conflict. > > > > 3. i think timesync(8) may h

Re: [9fans] Scrolling considered harmful

2013-04-23 Thread tlaronde
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 09:37:14AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > > > > Indeed, nasty things arise when some program is spitting a huge amount > > of text; window is blocking while there is more; I then, in the middle > > of the process, switch to scrolling. > > > > The nasty thing is writing in

Re: [9fans] Date woes

2013-04-23 Thread tlaronde
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 09:34:46AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: > is an independent /env for each process group, so it is entirely > possible to have many values on the same system. But this may affect the way the date is displayed, not the UTC? > > 3. i think timesync(8) may have the informati

Re: [9fans] Scrolling considered harmful

2013-04-23 Thread erik quanstrom
> I had already reported that a machine froze hard when manipulating > windows under rio. > > Indeed, nasty things arise when some program is spitting a huge amount > of text; window is blocking while there is more; I then, in the middle > of the process, switch to scrolling. > > The nasty thing

Re: [9fans] Date woes

2013-04-23 Thread erik quanstrom
> 1) How can fossil and the system display two different dates? Are they > not using the very same system value? > > 2) Could it be that fossil takes CMOS and then continue on its own or > takes CMOS constantly, while the kernel (?) takes CMOS, then leaves it > alone, correct (wrongly) and counts

[9fans] Scrolling considered harmful

2013-04-23 Thread tlaronde
Hello, I had already reported that a machine froze hard when manipulating windows under rio. Indeed, nasty things arise when some program is spitting a huge amount of text; window is blocking while there is more; I then, in the middle of the process, switch to scrolling. The nasty thing is writi

[9fans] Date woes

2013-04-23 Thread tlaronde
I was testing a new version of kerTeX (more changes to my compilation framework---mainly around Windows Interix support) with Plan9 (new version released BTW), and I stumbled once upon on date strange behavior. IIRC, I did not use this Plan9 node since the CET Saving Time switch. When verifying a

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

2013-04-23 Thread steve
thats a real shame. its a pity when politics gets in the way of education - I assume this is the problem, i apologise if not. -Steve On 22 Apr 2013, at 21:37, lamg wrote: > Sorry guys, I didn´t know that students in Cuba cannot participate, > anyway I will upload the markdown engine when compl