Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote:
|I don't know what console is. I don't see anything at my Plan-9 Shell
|(RC) or on the screen in general.
Note that Francisco J. Ballesteros has written an excellent book
on operating systems [1] that i also should read in total:
«Introduction to
I gather that command is for fossil, and fossil isn't used anymore.
Fossil is still the standard disk file system for Plan 9.
Trying to use 9front by following Plan 9 documentation, or vice versa,
is likely to lead to much frustration.
andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote:
|both 9␦Front and 9␦Atom use U+180E, Mongolian Vowel Separator, to
|stand between the digit and the letters. it is a zero-length space
|signifying the major departure from the original canon.
No, no longer -- it has become a control character in
It's not super required to add a new user on standalone systems.
Obviously file/auth servers have more of a need. You're system isn't
less secure using Glenda. You're going to be host owner no matter
what user you use.
ah, but being hostowner gives you no special status on the file
As it says in the first paragraph, it is: display device for system
administration messages, particularly those from the BIOS or boot loader
in plan 9, typically the directly-attached kvm, serial or cec is considered the
console. exception: when you're running rio, you don't see the
On 12/23/2013 04:59 PM, Blake McBride wrote:
BTW, how do I abort a command such as the cat /dev/kpeint? I tried
^c, ^d. ^\. Nothing worked. I ended up having to delete the entire
window.
Try the Delete key.
The DEL key should do.
Am 23.12.2013 15:59, schrieb Blake McBride:
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 10:52 PM, cinap_len...@felloff.net
mailto:cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote:
the fdisk command i gave you could read the partition table fine.
(it didnt register them, just print)
the code
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Sergey Zhilkin szhil...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello !
From - https://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/admin
Adding Users
Add a new user on the file server:
echo newuser username /srv/cwfs.cmd
The newuser filesystem command is described in the
Amazing how something so simple could stump someone. Thanks!
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Alexander Kapshuk
alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/23/2013 04:59 PM, Blake McBride wrote:
BTW, how do I abort a command such as the cat /dev/kpeint? I tried
^c, ^d. ^\. Nothing
On 12/23/2013 05:11 PM, Blake McBride wrote:
Amazing how something so simple could stump someone. Thanks!
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Alexander Kapshuk
alexander.kaps...@gmail.com mailto:alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote:
On 12/23/2013 04:59 PM, Blake McBride wrote:
BTW,
Try the Delete key.
Check keyboard(6) and rio(1).
also note the ins key does auto filename completeion.
Beware: these are all features of rio, if you have no rio, e.g.
just a text console, none of this works, not even del
(non-labs distributions not withstanding).
-Steve
Did you append or truncate. That command should work.
2013/12/23 Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 11:19 PM, Sergey Zhilkin szhil...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello !
From - https://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/admin
Adding Users
Add a new user on the file server:
On Mon Dec 23 10:18:49 EST 2013, st...@quintile.net wrote:
Try the Delete key.
Check keyboard(6) and rio(1).
also note the ins key does auto filename completeion.
Beware: these are all features of rio, if you have no rio, e.g.
just a text console, none of this works, not even del
that command file is really a bidirectional pipe. you didnt
read the pipe so you do not see the command response.
to get in a interactive dialog with the fileserver, you can run:
con -Cl /srv/cwfs.cmd
to leave this dialog, enter Ctrl+\enter and on cons
prompt, type q
the fileserver console
On Mon Dec 23 10:18:49 EST 2013, st...@quintile.net wrote:
Try the Delete key.
Check keyboard(6) and rio(1).
also note the ins key does auto filename completeion.
Beware: these are all features of rio, if you have no rio, e.g.
just a text console, none of this works, not even
The above echo command did nothing to the /adm/users file for me on
vanilla 9front.
Has anyone verified that he's even running cwfs?
sl
It works now. The docs were unclear to me. For example, this works:
echo newuser george /srv/cwfs.cmd
And this does not work (unsupprisingly):
echo george george /srv/cwfs.cmd
Unless you really look at it, it is unclear when to make a substitution (or
fill in a variable), and when to type it
Or perhaps:
echo newuser USER-NAME /srv/cwfs.cmd
replace USER-NAME with the new user's name. If most commands are in
lowercase, it might make sense to use uppercase names as things that need
to be specified.
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 12:00 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote:
It works
Quoting Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name:
Or perhaps:
echo newuser USER-NAME /srv/cwfs.cmd
replace USER-NAME with the new user's name. If most commands are in
lowercase, it might make sense to use uppercase names as things that need
to be specified.
Or perhaps we use the documentation as
If most commands are in
lowercase, it might make sense to use uppercase names as things that need
to be specified.
If you view man pages as typeset with troff, you will see them
in their full glory with syntactic categories suggested by different
fonts. Instead of typing 'man cmd' try 'man
or man -p
--
cinap
On Mon Dec 23 14:30:58 EST 2013, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote:
or man -p
an equiv would be man -P, but man -p does work, though it's
a completely different approach and looks different due to font
handling.
- erik
Documentation is always clear to people who already know the material but
use the documentation as a reminder. It is difficult for a newbie to
differentiate out-of-date material, branch specific material, and valid
documentation. I am providing feedback from a newbie's perspective. You
can
On Mon Dec 23 15:04:54 EST 2013, bl...@mcbride.name wrote:
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Kurt H Maier k...@sciops.net wrote:
Or perhaps we use the documentation as a way to weed out people who cannot
reason.
Documentation is always clear to people who already know the material but
use
I somewhat agree that some of the answers you are getting have somewhat
been (sometimes, not all, and not constantly) been insulting. But a year or
so ago I was also a Plan9 newbie, and I just read the manuals when I didn't
know how to do something. I followed some long-ago-read advice of first
right right. my mistake. :)
--
cinap
Thanks for the input. I am making an increased effort to search before
asking. I intuitively sense that Plan 9 has something significant to offer
based on the little I know. The actual mechanics have been a challenge for
me. Constructive feedback is deeply appreciated.
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013
Quoting Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name:
Documentation is always clear to people who already know the material but
use the documentation as a reminder. It is difficult for a newbie to
differentiate out-of-date material, branch specific material, and valid
documentation. I am providing
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Kurt H Maier k...@sciops.net wrote:
...
Speaking of assumptions, I'm not convinced 'increasing the number of users'
does anyone any good. It didn't help Windows any.
khm
Although number of users may not translate into a quality system (Microsoft
is a
On Dec 23, 2013, at 16:45, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote:
money to pay core contributors (you?)
http://mveety.com/just-send-the-money
All proceeds go to me, the majority of which then go to khm.
There is value in a community.
What remains of Plan 9 might be a better example of failing to seek
out community in order to preserve the value, which is sometimes
not clearly perceived by the interested few who show up at the party.
Conversely, UNIX diverged from its original design philosophy
On Mon Dec 23 17:10:13 EST 2013, s...@9front.org wrote:
There is value in a community.
What remains of Plan 9 might be a better example of failing to seek
out community in order to preserve the value, which is sometimes
not clearly perceived by the interested few who show up at the party.
On Thu Dec 19 20:54:04 EST 2013, conor.willi...@gmail.com wrote:
ack, thanks...
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:44 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
here you go... effectless...
apologies from Windows Movie Maker
... also on google+
problem diagnosed. mwait
I am having trouble with that link. Is it correct?
Thanks.
Blake
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 5:11 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
On Thu Dec 19 20:54:04 EST 2013, conor.willi...@gmail.com wrote:
ack, thanks...
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:44 AM, erik quanstrom
What remains of Plan 9 might be a better example of failing to seek
out community in order to preserve the value, which is sometimes
not clearly perceived by the interested few who show up at the party.
isn't this a false dichotomy? rudeness doesn't preserve value.
The TUPE[0] -related
Quoting erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
On Mon Dec 23 17:10:13 EST 2013, s...@9front.org wrote:
isn't this a false dichotomy? rudeness doesn't preserve value.
Neither does gladhanding.
it's easy to point out past mistakes. do you think these were obvious
at the time they were
Quoting Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name:
There is value in a community.
Irrelevant; the question at hand is whether your specific participation
in a community enhances its value.
On the other hand, you can live in a cave and do whatever you like
if you wish.
*This* is a false dichotomy.
http://newftp.9atom.org/other/+usbinstamd64.bz2 resolves (www vs. newftp).
d
On 24/12/2013, at 9:44 AM, Blake McBride wrote:
I am having trouble with that link. Is it correct?
Thanks.
Blake
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 5:11 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
On Thu Dec
I feel a community code of conduct doc forthcoming in this list's future.
I'll copy/pasta the one from go-nuts, where the discussion surrounding
it was very lively
http://newftp.9atom.org/other/+usbinstamd64.bz2 resolves (www vs. newftp).
i'm sorry should be ftp, though. thanks for the correction!
- erik
Ok thanks for the help.
I'm trying to use it with 9vx + lastest 9front rootfs that already have
this patch applied.
I put my client private key into factotum like this:
% cat client.key.plan9 /mnt/factotum/ctl
Then I'm trying to dial with tlsclient:
% tlsclient -D -c client.crt.pem -t
Please make sure to include tact sucks on the list.
On Dec 23, 2013, at 4:57 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote:
I feel a community code of conduct doc forthcoming in this list's future.
I'll copy/pasta the one from go-nuts, where the discussion surrounding it was
very
A quote I like from the 80s at the Labs - netnews is like standing up in a
crowded theater and shouting 'anyone wanna buy a used car?'.
Please consider when posting to his list that you might be doing the same.
(Not directed at anyone specifically).
brucee
On 24 December 2013 13:49, Skip
Thanks for the new boot trial. I am still getting an error on my HP as
follows:
ehci . qh . timed out (no inter?)
It did boot but I am getting those errors on the screen. Please let me
know if more info would be helpful.
Hope this helps. Thanks!
Blake
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 7:03
On Mon Dec 23 22:14:10 EST 2013, bl...@mcbride.name wrote:
Thanks for the new boot trial. I am still getting an error on my HP as
follows:
ehci . qh . timed out (no inter?)
It did boot but I am getting those errors on the screen. Please let me
know if more info would be
Hope my feedback is a help. I'm ready to try more whenever you are.
Thanks!
Blake
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:30 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
On Mon Dec 23 22:14:10 EST 2013, bl...@mcbride.name wrote:
Thanks for the new boot trial. I am still getting an error on my HP
i've had several experiences where that would be very handy, and am
likely to have more soon. maybe it can make it into 9atom or contrib?
9fs atom; cat /n/atom/plan9/sys/src/cmd/aux/norio.c
no man page yet.
- erik
On Mon Dec 23 22:37:27 EST 2013, bl...@mcbride.name wrote:
Hope my feedback is a help. I'm ready to try more whenever you are.
it is, but also as anyone else is, you are welcome to submit patches
fixing issues. apatch/create issuename email@sub.domain file
- erik
Hello,
After recent update of OSX, 9vx puts to the console very noisy messages such as:
2013-12-18 10:49:13.529 9vx.OSX[588:1503] Warning - conversion from 64 bit to
32 bit integral value requested within NSPortCoder, but the 64 bit value
140734683798163 cannot be represented by a 32 bit value
On Tue, 24 Dec 2013 13:04:18 +0900 arisawa aris...@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp wrote:
Hello,
After recent update of OSX, 9vx puts to the console very noisy messages
such as:
2013-12-18 10:49:13.529 9vx.OSX[588:1503] Warning - conversion from 64
bit to 32 bit integral value requested within
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