[9fans] chess?

2014-01-05 Thread Rudolf Sykora
Hello, perhaps it's there but I can't find it... Is there a chess game on plan9? Thanks Ruda

Re: [9fans] secstore in p9p, how to use well

2014-01-05 Thread Rudolf Sykora
so nobody uses secstored+factotum+ssh-agent on linux with p9p like I do? Thanks! Ruda On 19 December 2013 17:22, Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, already for some time I've been using secstored+factotum+ssh-agent on linux with p9p. The machine, call it 1, runs

Re: [9fans] chess?

2014-01-05 Thread Conor Williams
term%9fs sources term% cd /n/sources/contrib term% du -a . | grep chess On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, perhaps it's there but I can't find it... Is there a chess game on plan9? Thanks Ruda

Re: [9fans] chess?

2014-01-05 Thread stevie
term%9fs sources term% cd /n/sources/contrib term% du -a . | grep chess On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:37 AM, Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, perhaps it's there but I can't find it... Is there a chess game on plan9? Thanks Ruda The canonical way to this is

Re: [9fans] chess?

2014-01-05 Thread Conor Williams
if you want to do the search dressed as a priest, by all means, go ahead my firend... *noun* 1. *1*. the prescribed official dress of the clergy. Cardinal Bea in full canonicals On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:03 PM, ste...@kamalatta.dyndns.org wrote: term%9fs sources term% cd

Re: [9fans] chess?

2014-01-05 Thread stevie
if you want to do the search dressed as a priest, by all means, go ahead my firend... *noun* 1. *1*. the prescribed official dress of the clergy. Cardinal Bea in full canonicals On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 12:03 PM, ste...@kamalatta.dyndns.org wrote: term%9fs sources

Re: [9fans] chess?

2014-01-05 Thread Rudolf Sykora
On 5 January 2014 12:27, Conor Williams conor.willi...@gmail.com wrote: term%9fs sources term% cd /n/sources/contrib term% du -a . | grep chess Thanks, this is possibly a way, but, at least in my case, this takes ages... (Say it can run for 45 mins; maybe much more; I do not know the true

Re: [9fans] chess?

2014-01-05 Thread stevie
On 5 January 2014 12:27, Conor Williams conor.willi...@gmail.com wrote: term%9fs sources term% cd /n/sources/contrib term% du -a . | grep chess Thanks, this is possibly a way, but, at least in my case, this takes ages... (Say it can run for 45 mins; maybe much more; I do not know the true

Re: [9fans] chess?

2014-01-05 Thread Rudolf Sykora
On 5 January 2014 14:12, ste...@kamalatta.dyndns.org wrote: It runs much faster if you search in the lsr index file: % 9fs sources % cd /n/sources % time grep chess lsr ./contrib/steve/root/sys/src/cmd/mkmk/9port/gnu/chess 755 1229510622 697 ./plan9/sys/src/cmd/gs/examples/chess.ps 664

Re: [9fans] chess?

2014-01-05 Thread stevie
On 5 January 2014 14:12, ste...@kamalatta.dyndns.org wrote: It runs much faster if you search in the lsr index file: % 9fs sources % cd /n/sources % time grep chess lsr ./contrib/steve/root/sys/src/cmd/mkmk/9port/gnu/chess 755 1229510622 697 ./plan9/sys/src/cmd/gs/examples/chess.ps 664

Re: [9fans] chess?

2014-01-05 Thread erik quanstrom
Thanks, this is possibly a way, but, at least in my case, this takes ages... (Say it can run for 45 mins; maybe much more; I do not know the true reason why, but I intuitively suspect the protocol.) Therefore I asked for a more specific pointer. Also, generally, there should be a quicker

Re: [9fans] secstore in p9p, how to use well

2014-01-05 Thread erik quanstrom
On 19 December 2013 17:22, Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.com wrote: Hello everyone, already for some time I've been using secstored+factotum+ssh-agent on linux with p9p. The machine, call it 1, runs basically all the time and let's presume I am logged on it all the time, too. The

Re: [9fans] chess?

2014-01-05 Thread Rudolf Sykora
On 5 January 2014 15:36, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: Thanks, this is possibly a way, but, at least in my case, this takes ages... (Say it can run for 45 mins; maybe much more; I do not know the true reason why, but I intuitively suspect the protocol.) Therefore I asked for a

Re: [9fans] chess?

2014-01-05 Thread Rudolf Sykora
On 5 January 2014 14:12, ste...@kamalatta.dyndns.org wrote: % 9fs sources % cd /n/sources % time grep chess lsr ./contrib/steve/root/sys/src/cmd/mkmk/9port/gnu/chess 755 1229510622 697 ./plan9/sys/src/cmd/gs/examples/chess.ps 664 1137452689 61791 0.58u 0.18s 315.60r grep chess lsr So

Re: [9fans] chess?

2014-01-05 Thread Kurt H Maier
Quoting Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.com: PS.: It's a pity there isn't such a thing like plan9 that would just work :) Plan 9 works fine. It's gnu crap that is difficult. 9front experimented with providing binary packages for various things and it was more trouble than it was worth

Re: [9fans] Alternative Plan 9 Logo

2014-01-05 Thread phineas . pett
At Fri, 03 Jan 2014 17:11:02 -0500, Jay Kruer wrote: [1 text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)] [2 text/html; utf-8 (quoted-printable)] Looks really nice. However, Glenda will forever hold a special place in my heart. Perhaps this would be a good logo for 9front? Thanks for the

Re: [9fans] Alternative Plan 9 Logo

2014-01-05 Thread Shane Morris
Plan 9 Inside? I would buy products with that sticker. On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 4:42 AM, phineas.p...@gmail.com wrote: At Fri, 03 Jan 2014 17:11:02 -0500, Jay Kruer wrote: [1 text/plain; UTF-8 (quoted-printable)] [2 text/html; utf-8 (quoted-printable)] Looks really nice. However,

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-05 Thread Alex Jordan
On Mon Dec 30 21:03:24 EST 2013, alexander3223...@gmail.com wrote: Basically, would you guys recommend I try the Bell Labs distribution of Plan 9, 9front, or 9atom as my first installation? Since no one seems to have an opinion on this, I'm going with the Bell Labs distribution. We'll see how it

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-05 Thread Patryk Laurent
Hi Alex, I just joined the list, and so I missed your question. But I also opted for going with the vanilla distribution. Enjoy -- it's been pretty fun so far! Patryk On Jan 5, 2014, at 15:54, Alex Jordan alexander3223...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon Dec 30 21:03:24 EST 2013,

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-05 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Patryk Laurent plaur...@me.com wrote: Hi Alex, I just joined the list, and so I missed your question. But I also opted for going with the vanilla distribution. Enjoy -- it's been pretty fun so far! Patryk On Jan 5, 2014, at 15:54, Alex Jordan

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-05 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On Jan 5, 2014, at 8:03 PM, Steven Stallion sstall...@gmail.com wrote: There are a few of us that still hold out hope for the Labs distribution. But realistically, for how much longer? The past year has shown the love is gone. I haven't been able to run a labs distribution on physical

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-05 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: On Jan 5, 2014, at 8:03 PM, Steven Stallion sstall...@gmail.com wrote: There are a few of us that still hold out hope for the Labs distribution. But realistically, for how much longer? The past year has shown the

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-05 Thread balaji
+1 On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 8:36 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: On Jan 5, 2014, at 8:03 PM, Steven Stallion sstall...@gmail.com wrote: There are a few of us that still hold out hope for the Labs distribution. But realistically, for how much longer? The past year has shown the

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-05 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
Works fine for me on a variety of x86 hardware. At the moment I use Pineview D525 boards with no trouble at all. If I happen to run into hardware that's not supported, I write a driver. Honestly, it's the same business you get with any other distribution. I don't particularly care for kings

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-05 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: ... what works for me. That's the part that frustrates me these days. No sharing. Inside or out. I'd suggest taking a look at contrib/stallion (particularly patch and src) before adding yet more vitriol to the list.

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-05 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On Jan 5, 2014, at 9:01 PM, Steven Stallion sstall...@gmail.com wrote: In the case of 'The Labs' these days, sharing seems to be an anathema. Acceptance of outside code? Never. I'm not certain this is a completely fair criticism. The Labs is quite a bit smaller than it used to be these

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-05 Thread Bruce Ellis
Welcome to what is becoming something indistinguishable from the thousands of linux blame-game mailing lists. Grow up. Read a good book. Go to the beach. brucee On 6 January 2014 16:01, Steven Stallion sstall...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-05 Thread andrey mirtchovski
devmnt is all that's needed to have community. somebody, somewhere, will reinvent it badly.

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-05 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 11:13 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: devmnt is all that's needed to have community. somebody, somewhere, will reinvent it badly. I couldn't help but chuckle. I think anyone who has ever had to navigate and deal with bugs in devmnt would quite agree!

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-05 Thread Patryk Laurent
On Jan 05, 2014, at 09:09 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: But the reality is: the labs are no more. No funding, no interest, no anything. Geoff and Jim are due for retirement from this mailing list. (Jim left ages ago, in fact.) Let's let them go in peace.I'm fairly new here, but it

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-05 Thread Alex Jordan
On Jan 5, 2014, at 8:03 PM, Steven Stallion sstall...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Patryk Laurent plaur...@me.com wrote: Hi Alex, I just joined the list, and so I missed your question. But I also opted for going with the vanilla distribution. Enjoy -- it's been

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-05 Thread cinap_lenrek
instead of randomly switching distributoins, why not investigate what hardware is actually supported and install such hardware? you can easily move drivers from 9atom or labs or 9front any way arround. it doesnt matter. rules of acquisition: get a intel gigabit nic for example. look in the

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-05 Thread Alex Jordan
On Jan 5, 2014, at 11:39 PM, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: instead of randomly switching distributoins, why not investigate what hardware is actually supported and install such hardware? If you'll read my email again, you'll note that I mentioned this. I don't want to buy a new piece of