[9fans] GSoC proposal: Alternative window system

2014-03-19 Thread Caleb Malchik
Greetings, I am a student interested in participating in GSoC under Plan 9. My project would involve writing a new window manager as an alternative to rio: http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/alternative_window_system/index.html I thought I'd say a few words informally as my proposal

Re: [9fans] GSoC proposal: Alternative window system

2014-03-19 Thread Bence Fábián
We already have a lot of hacks to make rio tiling. In my opinion the most interesting/worthwhile projects mentioned on that wiki is to make things touchscreen friendly. 2014-03-19 9:36 GMT+01:00 Caleb Malchik cmalc...@gmail.com: Greetings, I am a student interested in participating in GSoC

Re: [9fans] GSoC proposal: Alternative window system

2014-03-19 Thread Shane Morris
Cohesive compilation of hacks? On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 7:56 PM, Bence Fábián beg...@gmail.com wrote: We already have a lot of hacks to make rio tiling. In my opinion the most interesting/worthwhile projects mentioned on that wiki is to make things touchscreen friendly. 2014-03-19 9:36

Re: [9fans] GSoC proposal: Alternative window system

2014-03-19 Thread Peter A. Cejchan
It would be nice to have something like old Oberon OS had; I think acme was inspired in part by it (I may be wrong). Some time ago, I had some ideas on windowing design; were anyone interested, they're here: http/www.gli.cas.cz/home/cejchan/plan9/newUI.pdf

Re: [9fans] GSoC proposal: Alternative window system

2014-03-19 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
What did old Oberon have? -- Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] GSoC proposal: Alternative window system

2014-03-19 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Mar 19 10:14:26 EDT 2014, ara...@mgk.ro wrote: What did old Oberon have? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberon_(operating_system) - erik

Re: [9fans] GSoC proposal: Alternative window system

2014-03-19 Thread Bence Fábián
I think Plan B / Octopus's omero does these things already. I'm still voting for touch interface 2014-03-19 15:17 GMT+01:00, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: On Wed Mar 19 10:14:26 EDT 2014, ara...@mgk.ro wrote: What did old Oberon have?

Re: [9fans] GSoC proposal: Alternative window system

2014-03-19 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Mar 19 11:01:54 EDT 2014, beg...@gmail.com wrote: I think Plan B / Octopus's omero does these things already. I'm still voting for touch interface we don't drive any touch hardware, so in the interest of success, i would not be interested in a gsoc project that required as step 0:

Re: [9fans] GSoC proposal: Alternative window system

2014-03-19 Thread Anthony Sorace
we don't drive any touch hardware, so in the interest of success, i would not be interested in a gsoc project that required as step 0: identify, purchase and write driver for enabling hardware. If someone were interested in doing this in the short term, the best option is likely tying it to

Re: [9fans] GSoC proposal: Alternative window system

2014-03-19 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Mar 19 11:33:58 EDT 2014, a...@9srv.net wrote: I'm still voting for touch interface Not to be pedantic, but note that there isn't any voting here. Students come up with a proposal for something they'd be interested in working on for the summer, and the prospective mentors order

Re: [9fans] GSoC proposal: Alternative window system

2014-03-19 Thread Anthony Sorace
I'm still voting for touch interface Not to be pedantic, but note that there isn't any voting here. Students come up with a proposal for something they'd be interested in working on for the summer, and the prospective mentors order them and fill however many slots we get (short version). I'd

Re: [9fans] GSoC proposal: Alternative window system

2014-03-19 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Mar 19 11:36:39 EDT 2014, a...@9srv.net wrote: we don't drive any touch hardware, so in the interest of success, i would not be interested in a gsoc project that required as step 0: identify, purchase and write driver for enabling hardware. If someone were interested in doing

Re: [9fans] GSoC proposal: Alternative window system

2014-03-19 Thread Anthony Sorace
given that that port was done many releases of ios ago, it is likly that a different step 0 would be required: bring the ios drawterm port back to life. Certainly. It doesn't currently build. Old binaries start up but quickly crash. From memory, I don't believe keyboard input currently works.

[9fans] GSoC: ~2 days left to apply!

2014-03-19 Thread Anthony Sorace
Folks: If you're thinking about applying to GSoC, do it quick: students have just over two days to apply. The application period ends at 19:00 UTC this Friday. We're seeing some really excellent proposals. Prospective mentors, if you've not signed up in Melange yet, you should do

Re: [9fans] GSoC: ~2 days left to apply!

2014-03-19 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Mar 19 13:37:24 EDT 2014, joseph.stew...@gmail.com wrote: Did the 2013 projects get put in a public place? I was especially lustful of the dis in a browser and web-drawterm. the drawterm in js and websocket project is ongoing, and the current code is part of 9atom. - erik

Re: [9fans] GSoC: ~2 days left to apply!

2014-03-19 Thread Joseph Stewart
Did the 2013 projects get put in a public place? I was especially lustful of the dis in a browser and web-drawterm. -joe On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Anthony Sorace a...@9srv.net wrote: Folks: If you're thinking about applying to GSoC, do it quick: students have just over two

[9fans] GSoC proposal - Improvements to the HTML5 draw server

2014-03-19 Thread David Hoskin
Hello 9fans, I'm applying to the Plan 9 GSoC again this year. I propose to continue work on the HTML5 drawterm I started in last year's GSoC, in the hope of making it a usable alternative to the native drawterm. I have identified three major areas for improvement: * cleaning up and fixing bugs

Re: [9fans] GSoC proposal: Alternative window system

2014-03-19 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 3:17 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Wed Mar 19 10:14:26 EDT 2014, ara...@mgk.ro wrote: What did old Oberon have? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oberon_(operating_system) - erik Yes, I know what Oberon is, I even used it. Peter mentioned something

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2014-03-19 Thread Jacob Todd
On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 10:51:37 -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: since you mention the host's hardware, i'm a little confused. the host's hardware doesn't make any difference. it's drawterm's bridge between #A and the host's audio device that's the question. has someone done this for os-x? if so,

Re: [9fans] GSoC proposal: Alternative window system

2014-03-19 Thread Jeff Sickel
On Mar 19, 2014, at 10:49 AM, Anthony Sorace a...@9srv.net wrote: given that that port was done many releases of ios ago, it is likly that a different step 0 would be required: bring the ios drawterm port back to life. Certainly. It doesn't currently build. Old binaries start up but

Re: [9fans] GSoC proposal: Alternative window system

2014-03-19 Thread Bakul Shah
On Wed, 19 Mar 2014 04:36:34 EDT Caleb Malchik cmalc...@gmail.com wrote: For my project, I would build a tiling window manager similar to dwm (what I use on Linux). I think a dwm-style interface that could be controlled from the keyboard would provide a nice contrast to what we already have

[9fans] Multi monitor setup

2014-03-19 Thread Szymon Olewniczak
Hi, as a new to Plan 9 I would like to know is there any support to dual monitor setup? Can I rotate monitor in plan 9? How does support of video cards looks like in general? BR, Szymon

Re: [9fans] GSoC proposal - Improvements to the HTML5 draw server

2014-03-19 Thread Steven Stallion
On Wed, Mar 19, 2014 at 1:07 PM, David Hoskin r...@davidrhoskin.com wrote: Hello 9fans, I'm applying to the Plan 9 GSoC again this year. I propose to continue work on the HTML5 drawterm I started in last year's GSoC, in the hope of making it a usable alternative to the native drawterm. I

Re: [9fans] GSoC proposal: Alternative window system

2014-03-19 Thread Paul Lalonde
Multiple displays and display dpi awareness in acme would make my day! Multi-display looks easy - we just need handling for adding a new row, which is already handily abstracted. Fitt's law aware mouse movement would be nice too, particularly on large screens. You could slightly trap the mouse