Re: [9fans] APL

2021-02-22 Thread tlaronde
Hello, FWIW, I have put two versions I found under kergis.com downloads zone: http://downloads.kergis.com/misc/apl4_0.tar.gz and http://downloads.kergis.com/misc/apl4_3.tar.gz The version number is relative to the BSD version it was released with. The 4.0 has a cat1 man page mentioning Ken

[9fans] 2c/2l make sense, but why 1c/1l?

2021-02-22 Thread rt9f . 3141
Hello, I'm wondering about the history of the 68000 compiler/tools.  Support for the 68020 makes sense, it had an MMU, but 68000 did not.  And it had some design flaws that prevented it from working correctly with the external MMU, the 68451.  So why does/did Plan 9 have a 68000 compiler?  Did

Re: [9fans] APL

2021-02-22 Thread Bakul Shah
> On Feb 22, 2021, at 8:41 PM, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: > > Quoth Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) : >> Steffen Nurpmeso writes: >> >>> It can even be as small as >>> >>> #?0|kent:unix-hist$ du -sh . >>> 179M. >>> >>> when not including all the new FreeBSD things (for which i at

Re: [9fans] APL

2021-02-22 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
o...@eigenstate.org writes: > git clone --single-branch \ > --branch Research-V4-Snapshot-Development \ I must be blind. I completely glossed over 'single-branch'. But I might have to go back to the SCCS archive on the CDs, anyway, since Spinellis' repo doesn't seem to

Re: [9fans] patches from 9front

2021-02-22 Thread ori
Quoth David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com>: > > When I got git9 working on 9legacy, I backported a couple > > of utilities and changes: > > > > /n/sources/patch/walk > > /n/sources/patch/rc-line-split > > These patches are now part of 9legacy. Thanks! > thank you :) let me

Re: [9fans] APL

2021-02-22 Thread ori
Quoth Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) : > Steffen Nurpmeso writes: > > > It can even be as small as > > > > #?0|kent:unix-hist$ du -sh . > > 179M. > > > > when not including all the new FreeBSD things (for which i at > > least track the FreeBSD git repository directly): > > Okay, so

Re: [9fans] Better Code Snippets & Suggestions

2021-02-22 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
My first reaction is that an RNN-based code generator trained on a particular dataset (e.g. Plan 9 sources) might be more fruitful. On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 3:08 PM William Linkmeyer wrote: > Dearest Nines, > > I’ve been reading these email chains for about three years now. You’ve all > taught

Re: [9fans] APL

2021-02-22 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
Steffen Nurpmeso writes: > It can even be as small as > > #?0|kent:unix-hist$ du -sh . > 179M. > > when not including all the new FreeBSD things (for which i at > least track the FreeBSD git repository directly): Okay, so what's the magic incantation to clone just that subset of

Re: [9fans] APL

2021-02-22 Thread Bakul Shah
Clearly someone ran lint on the ucb code :-) Both have the iline variable (char* on Cain's version, unsigned char* in ucb). > On Feb 22, 2021, at 3:56 PM, Charles Forsyth > wrote: > > It's more interesting that one is immediate by inspection. But why? > > On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 11:10 PM

Re: [9fans] APL

2021-02-22 Thread Steffen Nurpmeso
Bakul Shah wrote in <5c11a3ac-a66c-4336-bf37-55db2c4eb...@iitbombay.org>: |Spinellis has put together a browsable repo based on various source \ |distributions |which I find useful. I keep a local copy as it is under 2GB. All I \ It can even be as small as #?0|kent:unix-hist$ du -sh .

Re: [9fans] APL

2021-02-22 Thread Charles Forsyth
It's more interesting that one is immediate by inspection. But why? On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 11:10 PM Bakul Shah wrote: > Spinellis has put together a browsable repo based on various source > distributions > which I find useful. I keep a local copy as it is under 2GB. All I had to > do was > >

Re: [9fans] APL

2021-02-22 Thread Bakul Shah
Spinellis has put together a browsable repo based on various source distributions which I find useful. I keep a local copy as it is under 2GB. All I had to do was git log | less -ip "ross harvey" Michael Cain's version on sigapl.org site seems to be a different fork. Also worked over quite a

[9fans] Better Code Snippets & Suggestions

2021-02-22 Thread William Linkmeyer
Dearest Nines, I’ve been reading these email chains for about three years now. You’ve all taught me quite a bit. I understand that this will be a bit off-topic as it’s not directly related to Plan9. So be it. I wanted to start a chain and chime in on something that I do have experience with.

Re: [9fans] APL

2021-02-22 Thread Charles Forsyth
It's amusing that the github has "42 years ago". You can tell instantly that the line if (TERMtype == 0)c = (int)*iline++; wasn't written by Thompson. On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 10:02 PM Bakul Shah wrote: > On Feb 22, 2021, at 10:28 AM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > > > > There are various

Re: [9fans] APL

2021-02-22 Thread Bakul Shah
On Feb 22, 2021, at 10:28 AM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: > > There are various versions of an APL interpreter and, amongst these, > a version by Ken Thompson, Ross Harvey, Douglas Lanam. This can be found in Diomidis Spinellis' unix history repo @

Re: [9fans] APL

2021-02-22 Thread Charles Forsyth
I'm fairly sure Thompson wrote it on sabbatical in Berkeley. I think he also wrote the first version of a Pascal compiler. Pascal isn't a difficult language but I remember that compiler having an unusual style. I think others reworked it significantly later, so if it's there at all it's worth

Re: [9fans] APL

2021-02-22 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM)
tlaro...@polynum.com writes: > There are various versions of an APL interpreter and, amongst these, > a version by Ken Thompson, Ross Harvey, Douglas Lanam. > > Is that this one you are looking for? That sounds like the one. It's entirely possible the version I started with came from one of the

Re: [9fans] patches from 9front

2021-02-22 Thread David du Colombier
> When I got git9 working on 9legacy, I backported a couple > of utilities and changes: > > /n/sources/patch/walk > /n/sources/patch/rc-line-split These patches are now part of 9legacy. Thanks! -- David du Colombier -- 9fans: 9fans

Re: [9fans] APL

2021-02-22 Thread tlaronde
Hello, I have the CSRG Archives CDROM set, with archives from 1978 to 1993 and final 4.4 and 4.4BSD-Lite2. There are various versions of an APL interpreter and, amongst these, a version by Ken Thompson, Ross Harvey, Douglas Lanam. Is that this one you are looking for? Apparently Caldera has

Re: [9fans] APL

2021-02-22 Thread arnold
j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote: > Lyndon, > > Let us know if you find that source as it unfortunately doesn't appear to be > on netlib.org. > > P.S. Yes I know there are a million other APLs out there, as > well as J and the assorted follow-ons. It's the V7 code I'm > specifically interested

Re: [9fans] APL

2021-02-22 Thread jas
Lyndon, Let us know if you find that source as it unfortunately doesn't appear to be on netlib.org. P.S. Yes I know there are a million other APLs out there, as well as J and the assorted follow-ons. It's the V7 code I'm specifically interested in. Maybe it's tucked away in the bitsaver