Re: [9fans] Formation of a Plan 9 Core Team

2024-01-26 Thread Vester "Vic" Thacker
I would like to extend my gratitude to everyone who took the time to provide their valuable feedback. I fully acknowledge that there appears to be limited interest in the proposal. Your time and assistance are greatly appreciated. --vic -- 9fans: 9fans

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-26 Thread Vester "Vic" Thacker
I would like to extend my gratitude to everyone who took the time to provide their valuable feedback. I fully acknowledge that there appears to be limited interest in the proposal. Your time and assistance are greatly appreciated. --vic -- 9fans: 9fans

Re: [9fans] Formation of a Plan 9 Core Team

2024-01-26 Thread denzuko
On Friday, January 26, 2024, at 6:47 AM, sirjofri wrote: > I remember, when I started with Plan 9, I wanted to improve many things, > contribute everything I could, until I realized that many things are like > they are on purpose. I was often grounded by people like ori, hiro, > mycroftiv, kvik

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-26 Thread g_patrickb via 9fans
If the complaint is that the forks of Plan 9 from Bell Labs are not "mainline" because they are not the original Labs' Plan 9, then damn the creators of Plan 9 for creating their own C compiler and not using mainline C. And damn those who did not stick with K C and demanded ANSI C and ISO C.

Re: [9fans] how to : create an p9f contrib folder

2024-01-26 Thread ibrahim via 9fans
I read this website which had one of the old mail adresses : https://9p.io/wiki/plan9/how_to_contribute/index.html another one had the link to Geoff's mail at bell-labs as admin. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink:

Re: [9fans] how to : create an p9f contrib folder

2024-01-26 Thread David du Colombier
> Sorry the receiver was > > ge...@plan9.bell-labs.com plan9.bell-labs.com doesn't exist anymore. This is probably a remnant of the former website. -- David du Colombier -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink:

Re: [9fans] how to : create an p9f contrib folder

2024-01-26 Thread ibrahim via 9fans
Sorry the receiver was ge...@plan9.bell-labs.com this was the link provided by the 9p.io page it wasn't webmas...@9p.io -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Te9abe12004b50ce0-M5a29d79bb7eb2d3f57d695de Delivery options:

Re: [9fans] how to : create an p9f contrib folder

2024-01-26 Thread David du Colombier
> I tried webmas...@9p.io Hmm, this should work. -- David du Colombier -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Te9abe12004b50ce0-M8da5a717bb9cab1303341237 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] Formation of a Plan 9 Core Team

2024-01-26 Thread Lucio De Re
On 1/26/24, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: >> People use 9front, which is not plan 9. Many good things >> started as forks, and that's ok. > > mostly i agreed. but to me plan9 is just an old 9front version without > the bootloader. > It's a neat summary, but it reflects a particular perspective

Re: [9fans] how to : create an p9f contrib folder

2024-01-26 Thread ibrahim via 9fans
I tried webmas...@9p.io -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Te9abe12004b50ce0-M6a9cba504b1a6de5f69ff8d2 Delivery options: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/subscription

Re: [9fans] how to : create an p9f contrib folder

2024-01-26 Thread David du Colombier
> Do you know who I have to contact for registration ? The mail I sent to > p9f/9p.io couldn't be delivered. You can contact me with your desired username. What e-mail address did you try? -- David du Colombier -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink:

Re: [9fans] how to : create an p9f contrib folder

2024-01-26 Thread ibrahim via 9fans
On Friday, 26 January 2024, at 5:53 PM, David du Colombier wrote: > I don't think you can have a contrib account on p9f, but you can get a contrib account at 9p.io. Do you know who I have to contact for registration ? The mail I sent to p9f/9p.io couldn't be delivered.

Re: [9fans] how to : create an p9f contrib folder

2024-01-26 Thread David du Colombier
> How can I create an account and a folder on p9f in the contrib path ? I don't think you can have a contrib account on p9f, but you can get a contrib account at 9p.io. -- David du Colombier -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink:

[9fans] how to : create an p9f contrib folder

2024-01-26 Thread ibrahim via 9fans
I would like to share runtime images of my plan9 fork and also some code changes which are not directly useful for plan9 but of interest for people using plan9 to provide kiosk systems. I tried to register at p9f and the mail I sent to the admin couldn't be delivered. I searched for info

Re: Charting the Future: Envisioning Plan 9 Release 5 for the 9fans Community. [Was:Re: [9fans] Supported Notebooks]

2024-01-26 Thread ibrahim via 9fans
First of all, I have my own fork of plan9 which was/is used by a few hundred users. My fork is based on 9legacy. And I'm really surprised to regularly see this discussion about a 'mainline' and the argumentation against 9front. Fact is : 9legacy provides patches and enhancements from 9front. I

Re: [9fans] Formation of a Plan 9 Core Team

2024-01-26 Thread ori
In my experience, an open source team forms when someone does work. If the work is good, others join in. They start with someone taking initiative to build. Eventually, it may make sense to put in some bureaucracy, as people doing the work struggle to communicate effectively. Right now, it

Re: [9fans] Formation of a Plan 9 Core Team

2024-01-26 Thread hiro
> People use 9front, which is not plan 9. Many good things > started as forks, and that's ok. mostly i agreed. but to me plan9 is just an old 9front version without the bootloader. -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink:

Re: [9fans] Formation of a Plan 9 Core Team

2024-01-26 Thread sirjofri
26.01.2024 10:49:42 Frank D. Engel, Jr. : > From my perspective, Plan 9 was split into two forks: 9legacy for people who > don't want it to move forward but simply to be maintained, and 9front for > people who want the project to move forward and continue to grow. > > Having a core team for

Re: [9fans] Formation of a Plan 9 Core Team

2024-01-26 Thread Juhani Forsman
Honestly speaking, in current situation this tastes a bit for administration for the sake of administration. In my opinion it would be more fruitful to bring together at first the niners with similar goals and needs i.e. "SIGs" at first which could form the core later if necessary jf

Re: [9fans] Formation of a Plan 9 Core Team

2024-01-26 Thread sirjofri
Hello again, 26.01.2024 09:08:29 Vester "Vic" Thacker : > When looking at the FreeBSD project, the introduction of a Plan 9 Core Team > can offer several benefits: > > 1. *Centralized Technical Leadership*: A Core Team can provide clear > technical leadership and direction for the project. This

Re: [9fans] Formation of a Plan 9 Core Team

2024-01-26 Thread sirjofri
Hey Vic, I followed the other thread and read through your initial mail. Here's my thoughts. I don't think the development of another mainline release or the formation of a core team really makes sense. A core team is built around a solid vision and the ability (and want) to follow that. My

Re: [9fans] Formation of a Plan 9 Core Team

2024-01-26 Thread Vester "Vic" Thacker
When looking at the FreeBSD project, the introduction of a Plan 9 Core Team can offer several benefits: 1. *Centralized Technical Leadership*: A Core Team can provide clear technical leadership and direction for the project. This ensures that development efforts are coordinated, focused,