Re: [9fans] look, ma, linux's discovered fossil + venti

2008-11-14 Thread Enrico Weigelt
robably too obvious ;-P cu -- ------ Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066481 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: nekrad666 -- Embedded-Linux / Portierung / Opensource-QM / Verteilte Systeme --

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-10 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Robert Raschke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:26 AM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * sqweek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> Everyone has write access to the plan 9 wiki. > > > > hmm, perhaps I didn't lo

Re: [9fans] yes, comcast really *does* suck

2008-11-10 Thread Enrico Weigelt
yway. Why didn't you just try out the factory settings and fix the problem by yourself ? ;-O cu -- -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066481 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: nekrad666 ---

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-10 Thread Enrico Weigelt
... ;-o > that's more my experience with Apache and Perl, so far, > and not even for `innovation', just getting their stuff going > on Windows. Yeah, they're even incapable of writing clean makefiles ;-o cu -- ---

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-10 Thread Enrico Weigelt
n :) Maybe, once I've got jmixp up and running, I'll port it to flex ;-o cu -- -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066481 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: nekrad666

Re: [9fans] yes, comcast really *does* suck

2008-11-10 Thread Enrico Weigelt
ppp works just fine for direct connections. we're just talking about mail transfer, so uucp IMHO is the easiest solution, especially if machines aren't up and online all the day ... cu -- ---------- Enrico Weigelt, metux I

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-09 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* sqweek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:50 PM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Steve Simon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> How about if you start a page with a list of the 9p > >> file servers you know o

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-09 Thread Enrico Weigelt
), plugins (webfs, rio, ...) would alreay be a HUGE advantage. Everyone of you can help by just advocating 9P and demonstrating what it can do :) cu -- ---------- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone:

Re: [9fans] yes, comcast really *does* suck

2008-11-09 Thread Enrico Weigelt
hrough the wire. If anyone likes to have a UUCP feed, just let me know. cu -- ---------- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-09 Thread Enrico Weigelt
er an little Joomla over Wiki ;-) Just let me know if you'd like to feed some input to such a site, and I'll set up one. cu -- ---------- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174

Re: [9fans] Do we have a catalog of 9P servers?

2008-11-09 Thread Enrico Weigelt
unch of fileservers. Perhaps some of you like to subscribe there and jump at my side ;) cu -- ---------- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066

[9fans] Is /proc an Plan9 invention ?

2008-11-07 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Hi folks, the english wikipedia page on Plan9 implies that procfs was an Plan9 invention. Is this true ? cu -- -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066481 email: [EMAIL

Re: [9fans] mmap

2008-11-03 Thread Enrico Weigelt
-- bad idea. Time bandits ? cu -- ---------- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066481 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: nekrad666 --

Re: [9fans] mmap

2008-11-02 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* erik quanstrom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > * Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 17:29 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > > > Convenience is one point (sometimes be a big point), but another > > > >

Re: [9fans] mmap

2008-11-02 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 17:29 +0200, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > Convenience is one point (sometimes be a big point), but another > > important one is sharing. Without mmap(), an (real) shared library > > support most

Re: [9fans] plan9port lacks exportfs server

2008-11-02 Thread Enrico Weigelt
e ? *If* you want to nail down a fixed binary interface, you should to this exactly at that point which defines the interface: the package (eg. library) defining it. In other words: add appropriate regress tests to the library package, not abusing others that just happen to depend on it as regress test.

Re: [9fans] plan9port lacks exportfs server

2008-11-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2008-10-30 at 19:07 +0100, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > > > I'd like to vote against feeding up p9p with more things, > > instead split it up into smaller pieces. Modern distro

Re: [9fans] central list of bugs

2008-11-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Perhaps you could add separate categories for several projects, eg. v9fs, libmixp, etc. For some strange reason, I can't create tickets - it always wants me to re-login endlessly (even I am already logged-in) :( cu -- ----------

Re: [9fans] plan9port lacks exportfs server

2008-10-30 Thread Enrico Weigelt
:(). cu -- ------ Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066481 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: nekrad666 -- Embedded-Linux / Portierung /

Re: [9fans] Query on Venti access

2008-10-30 Thread Enrico Weigelt
ts on Gentoo systems. cu -- ------ Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066481 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: nekrad666 --

Re: [9fans] central list of bugs

2008-10-30 Thread Enrico Weigelt
la ? trac ?) cu -- ---------- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066481 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: nekrad666 -

Re: [9fans] mmap

2008-07-30 Thread Enrico Weigelt
k- wise) random access - mmap()'ed streams are completely nonsense. Convenience is one point (sometimes be a big point), but another important one is sharing. Without mmap(), an (real) shared library support most likely will require special kernel support. cu -- ----------

Re: [9fans] mmap

2008-07-29 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Some time ago I hacked up a little XML-based database (just to show myself that it needn't to be that ugly slow as Xindice ;-)), and being able to conveniently work with pointers instead of ugly seek() made really fun ;-P cu -- -----

[9fans] plan9port -> ftpfs

2008-07-10 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Hi folks, did anyone already port ftpfs to plan9port ? thx -- -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066481 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: nekrad666

[9fans] webfs for servlets ?

2008-07-04 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Hi folks, what do you think, does it make sensse to use webfs (or something similar) for web servlets (eg. instead of cgi) ? cu -- -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066481

Re: [9fans] Ideas for gc on venti

2008-06-18 Thread Enrico Weigelt
evice via venti) can make runtime configuration much easier. cu -- ------ Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066481 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [9fans] Ideas for gc on venti

2008-06-18 Thread Enrico Weigelt
istributes the data over the cloud. So I don't need additional logic for clustering the application / it's data spaces. (I'll also use the venticloud for several other things, eg. for building an distributed fs or something like S3 on it). cu -- -----

[9fans] Ideas for gc on venti

2008-06-18 Thread Enrico Weigelt
that approach ? cu *1) we could introduce a new "touch" rpc call, which simply tells venti that some list of blocks is still required, but does not send back their data. -- ---------- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- ht

Re: [9fans] command line tool for storing / reading files on venti

2008-06-15 Thread Enrico Weigelt
wn format. It wasn't that complicated, now all done ;-P cu -- --------- Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Task

Re: [9fans] command line tool for storing / reading files on venti

2008-06-15 Thread Enrico Weigelt
9p on Linux. No idea where the actual problem sits, but your example left the vacfs-processes running. cu -- --------- Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ -

Re: [9fans] command line tool for storing / reading files on venti

2008-06-15 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Pietro Gagliardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Jun 15, 2008, at 12:02 PM, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > > >Aha. But this still does not terminate the vacfs, right ? > > > Once you kill the script, you also kill the processes it created - > that's what process

Re: [9fans] command line tool for storing / reading files on venti

2008-06-15 Thread Enrico Weigelt
l which stores single files (no directory stuff at all). Not perfect yet, but already works quite fine (IMHO): svn://nibiru.metux.de/public/plan9port/apps/vtstore/ In the next step, I'll add http-alike metadata (mimetype, etc). cu -- ---

Re: [9fans] command line tool for storing / reading files on venti

2008-06-14 Thread Enrico Weigelt
also add some permission information * when using vac, I have to use always the same filename within vac (ls'ing first would be event oo complex ;-o) Maybe it's better to code a new archiver for this. cu -- --

Re: [9fans] command line tool for storing / reading files on venti

2008-06-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
: still leaves the problem that lot's of vacfs servers are started not terminated after use :( cu -- -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066481 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: nekrad666 -- Embedded-Linux / Portierung / Opensource-QM / Verteilte Systeme --

Re: [9fans] command line tool for storing / reading files on venti

2008-06-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
file) as vac creates - but does the > redirection and may be close to what you want. Yes, that sounds good, but fails with: ./vcat: diskopenventi: not a single file Well, if I now just find the opposite - uploading a file - I'll be happy :) cu -- --------

Re: [9fans] command line tool for storing / reading files on venti

2008-06-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
right ? cu -- ------ Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066481 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: nekrad666 -- Embedded-Linux / Portierung / Opensource-QM / Verteilte Systeme --

[9fans] command line tool for storing / reading files on venti

2008-06-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
a bit too complicated for my project). cu -- ------ Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066481 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype:

Re: [9fans] Modularizing plan9port

2008-06-12 Thread Enrico Weigelt
y doing far more complex things > than my simple brain can fathom. Might be ;-P cu -- ------ Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066481

Re: [9fans] Modularizing plan9port

2008-06-11 Thread Enrico Weigelt
riginal proposal. Even if I could go this way, it would require *much* more manual works. Simply too expensive. cu -- ------ Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de

Re: [9fans] Modularizing plan9port

2008-06-11 Thread Enrico Weigelt
just like any other app, w/o additionally porting. > Cross-compiling in Gnu/land is a nightmare not worth going into. No, it isn't - as long as you've got a proper toolchain and get around autoshit. (eg. I've got my own libtool implementation ;-p) cu -- ---

Re: [9fans] Modularizing plan9port

2008-06-11 Thread Enrico Weigelt
you don't have to worry about rewriting Makefiles > or adding your own configure scripts or other horrors. > I certainly won't take any of that back into the main tree. You shouldn't generally declare this approach as horror, just because autoconf is a horrible example.

[9fans] [PATCH] p9p: 9pserve proxy support

2008-06-11 Thread Enrico Weigelt
between a unix socket and TCP, making p9p servers available via TCP. cu -- ---------- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066481 email: [EMAIL

[9fans] Modularizing plan9port

2008-06-11 Thread Enrico Weigelt
a as tools like lex, make, autoconf, etc). What do you think about this approach ? cu -- ---------- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066481 email: [

Re: [9fans] Streaming on venti

2008-06-05 Thread Enrico Weigelt
described as "Foundation" in the paper.) thx, I'll have a look at this (as soon as time allows ;-o). cu -- -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066481 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: nekrad666 -

Re: [9fans] Streaming on venti

2008-06-05 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 4:24 AM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Hi folks, > > > > > > is anyone already working on an venti-based storage format > > which is optimized for streaming

[9fans] Streaming on venti

2008-06-05 Thread Enrico Weigelt
first payload block can be reached). Some kind of linked list, eg. like in CMD-1541 filesystem (each block as an pointer to the next one) or an linked list of index blocks would fit better. cu -- ----- Enrico Weigelt== metux IT se

Re: [9fans] plan9port: tcp servers

2008-06-05 Thread Enrico Weigelt
least for TCP streams it's - IMHO - quite convenient. eg: 9p://host:port/ Maybe I'll someday use the (currently ignore) path component for chroot. cu -- - Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ --

Re: [9fans] crosstool fails on gentoo

2008-06-05 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: uups, seems I've sent my mail to the wrong list ;-o (now it's clear why nobody responded @ crossgcc list) Coffe was out at that day ... Sorry for the confusion. cu -- -----

Re: [9fans] crosstool fails on gentoo

2008-06-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
age: "we should recreate the > autotools+libtool > stuff before compiling." Right, manually running autoreconf -fi && libtoolize on the already uncompressed tree fixed it for me. Of course this manual hack is ugly, it should be done automatically after decompression.

Re: [9fans] plan9port: tcp servers

2008-06-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
it. That would be fine, why did you decied against ? cu -- --------- Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSourc

Re: [9fans] plan9port: tcp servers

2008-06-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
> break; > ... > }ARGEND > > Then you could run something like > > 9pserve -c `namespace`/acme tcp!*!12345 this doesn't work - gives: malformed address. seems like dial() doesn't accept socket path names. I'll have a look if I c

Re: [9fans] /dev/audio format (was: read/write offset hack)

2008-06-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt
...) to go through that new 9P interface. Suggestions appreciated :) cu -- ---------- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT service -- http://www.metux.de/ cellphone: +49 174 7066481 email: [EMAIL PROT

Re: [9fans] Fossil+Venti on Linux

2008-05-29 Thread Enrico Weigelt
ounds very intersting. Is there any source code available ? cu -- --------- Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the Op

Re: [9fans] Fossil+Venti on Linux

2008-05-29 Thread Enrico Weigelt
of a new file or file change triggers an directory update. This can be done transactionally via an RDBMS. The fine thing of this concept is, the venti cloud could even be built of hosts which aren't completely trusted (as long as data itself is properly encrypted) - as long as there are

[9fans] Fossil+Venti on Linux

2008-05-25 Thread Enrico Weigelt
The venti even could be clustered (each machine feeding the others), so the remaining backup will just be on metadata, right ? cu -- ----- Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.met

Re: [9fans] 9P support for MC

2008-05-21 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Juan M. Mendez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 2008/3/27 Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > Hi folks, > > > > I'd just want to let you know I've added 9P support to the > > Midnight Commander (via libmvfs + libmixp). > > > &

Re: [9fans] plan9port: split into several packages

2008-05-17 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Michaelian Ennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 12:51 PM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'd like to split it into several packages directly at source > > (eg. one pkg per lib or tool). > > > Where is this

Re: [9fans] 9P support for MC

2008-05-17 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Michaelian Ennis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:02 PM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'd just want to let you know I've added 9P support to the > > Midnight Commander (via libmvfs + libmixp). > > Is tha

[9fans] plan9port: split into several packages

2008-05-10 Thread Enrico Weigelt
. one pkg per lib or tool). What do you think about this ? cu -- ----- Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSour

Re: [9fans] xen -> /net/ether0 missing

2008-05-07 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 7:03 AM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > What could be wrong ? > > > you're using Xen :-) > > seriously I wrote the first port and I have not used xen f

Re: [9fans] p9p/linux factotum port

2008-05-07 Thread Enrico Weigelt
should be minimized, but in solutions there will be an userland daemon which must be trusted. You mapping service could be abused quite the same as my cap service. I don't see any way out of this, as long as the kernel isn't aware of usernames completely by itself (and this woul

[9fans] xen -> /net/ether0 missing

2008-05-07 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Hi folks, I've tried installing Plan9 in Xen (followed several howto's), but it doesn't seem to find the ethernet interface, so /net/ether0 is missing. What could be wrong ? cu -- ----- Enrico Weigelt== m

[9fans] xen -> direct 9p channel

2008-05-07 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Hi folks, I've found some discussions about an direct 9P channel in xen (so all devices can be served from dom0 via 9P, w/o hw emulation). Does anyone know some bit more about this ? cu -- ----- Enrico Weigelt== met

Re: [9fans] p9p/linux factotum port

2008-05-06 Thread Enrico Weigelt
lexibilty (not only limited to factotum stuff) b) the kernel doesn't know of usernames. So, IMHO, the cap handling should be done in userland. cu -- --------- Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service -

[9fans] p9p/linux factotum port

2008-05-06 Thread Enrico Weigelt
pace. cu -- ----- Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please visit the OpenSource QM Taskforce: http://wiki.metux.de/public/OpenSource_QM_Taskforc

Re: [9fans] RFC: 9zine

2008-03-27 Thread Enrico Weigelt
#x27;t be that hard job (eg. w/ TeX). > If it turns out to be "Enrico and Pietro propose 10 new synthetic > filesystems they'll never build", well, I can read that on 9fans and Hey, hey, I'm really building my suggested FS'es ... I just want to get more people int

Re: [9fans] RFC: 9zine

2008-03-27 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Harri Haataja <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 09:14:38PM -0400, Tom Lieber wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I'm currently planning an little ezine about Plan9 and relate

[9fans] 9P support for MC

2008-03-26 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Hi folks, I'd just want to let you know I've added 9P support to the Midnight Commander (via libmvfs + libmixp). cu -- ----- Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://ww

[9fans] RFC: 9zine

2008-03-26 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Hi folks, I'm currently planning an little ezine about Plan9 and related stuff (incl. 9P+synthentic filesystems on other OS'es). Maybe anyone interested ? cu -- ----- Enrico Weigelt== metux IT serv

[9fans] CSS parser for abaco [WAS: abaco @ plan9port]

2008-03-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
cific type of data (eg. borders and padding) be split off to the finest granilarity and maybe also identified by an integer ID instead of the name or does this belong to the client (-> renderer) ? cu -- --------- Enrico W

[9fans] plan9 font service [WAS: abaco @ plan9port]

2008-03-13 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > now another problem: abaco expects some fonts in > /usr/local/plan9/fonts. > > Seems we need some convenient way for relocating fonts. > Maybe an even an fontserver ? ;-) I've now manually tweaked the pathes in the

Re: [9fans] abaco @ plan9port [WAS: Hi and, plan9-native abaco sources?]

2008-03-12 Thread Enrico Weigelt
quot; option was missing :) now another problem: abaco expects some fonts in /usr/local/plan9/fonts. Seems we need some convenient way for relocating fonts. Maybe an even an fontserver ? ;-) cu -- --------- Enrico Weigelt==

[9fans] abaco @ plan9port [WAS: Hi and, plan9-native abaco sources?]

2008-03-11 Thread Enrico Weigelt
.:0/). Could someone give me an advise, what's wrong here ? cu -- --------- Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.metux.de/ - Please vis

[9fans] wiki -> broken links

2008-03-11 Thread Enrico Weigelt
Hi folks, I've just discovered an broken link to 9grid.de on certain wiki pages, eg.: http://cm.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Contrib_index/index.html cu -- ----- Enrico Weigelt== metux IT service - http://www.met

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