Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi image

2014-02-20 Thread Steven Stallion
On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 4:14 AM, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.com wrote: I just think it would be interesting having Plan 9 on a multicore ARM chip, but as I said, I'm pretty certain its open enough, but please do not quote me - I'd hate to be horribly wrong! Patience. It's being worked on

Re: [9fans] Inferno and the Parallella

2014-02-05 Thread Steven Stallion
On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 9:40 AM, Anthony Sorace a...@9srv.net wrote: Any proposal for a hardware-based GSoC project will need to answer this question (I have 4 and will ship them at my cost..., you can reliably buy these at Radio Shack..., Potential mentors Joe and Jane have said they already

Re: [9fans] GSoC '14

2014-01-27 Thread Steven Stallion
On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 9:17 AM, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote: Did anyone ever implement up a Bonjour/Zeroconf service for Plan 9? I've started a couple of times now, but never got very far due to lack of time. I'd really like to see mDNS added to ndb, especially given how common

Re: [9fans] GSoC '14

2014-01-26 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 1:58 AM, Jessica Yu j...@cowsay.org wrote: I do! I'm particularly interested in filesystems in general and would love to work on fossil/venti, perhaps improve fossilcons or fix known bugs? Databases are another interest of mine and I'd be willing to working on pq (e.g.

Re: [9fans] GSoC '14

2014-01-25 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 4:03 AM, Jessica Yu j...@cowsay.org wrote: Hello all, I realize it's probably a bit early to be asking, but I'm curious if Plan 9 will be applying to participate in this year's GSoC. I'd definitely be interested in participating as a student! Welcome Jessica! Do you

Re: [9fans] GSoC '14

2014-01-25 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 7:42 PM, Conor Williams conor.willi...@gmail.com wrote: ok... Feel free to send your ideas to the list in the meantime... Steve

Re: [9fans] GSoC '14

2014-01-25 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Conor Williams conor.willi...@gmail.com wrote: ·A device driver for Plan 9 for an unsupported device I'd love to see this - device driver work can be difficult, though rewarding. I would be happy to mentor anyone willing to take up this challenge. Steve

Re: [9fans] GSoC '14

2014-01-25 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:38 PM, Salman Javaid javaid.sal...@gmail.com wrote: Steven, this USB 3 [0] device driver implementation seems to be an interesting project. Is this something you will be interested in? [0] http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/TODO/index.html That's going to be

Re: [9fans] GSoC '14

2014-01-25 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 10:37 PM, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.gizmosphere.org/why-gizmo/gizmoboard/ I'd like to see Plan 9 fully support this board. The chipset is a closed ecosystem with embedded microcontroller capabilities, such as GPIO. Anything you add on the

Re: [9fans] GSoC '14

2014-01-25 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sun, Jan 26, 2014 at 12:24 AM, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.com wrote: Steve, Krystian in Poland has tackled GPIO on the RaspberryPi. I can fish up his repos if needed... Very cool! I need to find some time to boot the pi I have at the house. It's been sitting in the box since I picked it

Re: [9fans] about KTZERO mismatch in mkfile and mem.h

2014-01-20 Thread Steven Stallion
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Yoann Padioleau p...@fb.com wrote: Hi, in 9/pc/mem.h it says: /* * Address spaces */ #define KZERO 0xF000 /* base of kernel address space */ #define KTZERO (KZERO+0x10)/* first address in kernel text -

Re: [9fans] mechanism to bind partitions in /dev?

2014-01-18 Thread Steven Stallion
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:57 PM, Yoann Padioleau p...@fb.com wrote: Hi, Can someone explain how the partitions in /dev/sdC0/xxx are populated? Who create those device files? I have a small plan9 kernel running a small shell (sh.Z) in memory and when I do 'bind #S/sdC0 /dev/' I just see

Re: [9fans] MOVLQSX wrong operand order

2014-01-17 Thread Steven Stallion
On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 12:07 PM, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: just disassembled some code generated by 6c and found something funny. the debugger seems to print the operands of MOVLQSX in the wrong order. *db.c are notoriously out of date an almost all platforms. I spent a good chunk of

Re: [9fans] Maximal number of processes

2014-01-08 Thread Steven Stallion
On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 2:28 AM, Pavel Klinkovský pavel.klinkov...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I would like to know whether there is any hard (based on CPU architecture) limit of maximal number of processes in Plan9 on Intel or ARM. I do not think the soft limit like the lack of memory... ;)

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-05 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Patryk Laurent plaur...@me.com wrote: Hi Alex, I just joined the list, and so I missed your question. But I also opted for going with the vanilla distribution. Enjoy -- it's been pretty fun so far! Patryk On Jan 5, 2014, at 15:54, Alex Jordan

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-05 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: On Jan 5, 2014, at 8:03 PM, Steven Stallion sstall...@gmail.com wrote: There are a few of us that still hold out hope for the Labs distribution. But realistically, for how much longer? The past year has shown

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-05 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: ... what works for me. That's the part that frustrates me these days. No sharing. Inside or out. I'd suggest taking a look at contrib/stallion (particularly patch and src) before adding yet more vitriol to the list.

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

2014-01-05 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 11:13 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: devmnt is all that's needed to have community. somebody, somewhere, will reinvent it badly. I couldn't help but chuckle. I think anyone who has ever had to navigate and deal with bugs in devmnt would quite agree!

Re: [9fans] file server uptime

2013-12-15 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 5:27 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: i believe this is a personal record for any system at any time: plano: version 63-bit plano as of Thu Jan 6 13:20:07 EDT 2011 last boot Fri Jan 21 14:57:19 EDT 2011 Pish. Plano is

Re: [9fans] music storage

2013-12-09 Thread Steven Stallion
I gave up some time back and ripped the family's cd collection (around 500 discs) to ALAC. After that I converted most to AAC for listening on audio players and left the original rips sitting in storage. Needless to say, Goodwill was a little surprised to find 500 discs donated at once! On Mon,

Re: [9fans] music storage

2013-12-09 Thread Steven Stallion
On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 9:04 PM, Steven Stallion sstall...@gmail.com wrote: I gave up some time back and ripped the family's cd collection (around 500 discs) to ALAC. After that I converted most to AAC for listening on audio players and left the original rips sitting in storage. Needless

Re: [9fans] drawterm osx-x11 on x86_64

2013-11-21 Thread Steven Stallion
On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 4:40 AM, Mark van Atten vanattenm...@gmail.com wrote: For the moment, I prefer this to drawterm-cocoa because there is no flicker, and window borders remain intact when reshaping with B1 or B2. Ah! That drives me nuts too, though it is nice to get proper fullscreen

Re: [9fans] Acme real estate on 15 macbook pro?

2013-10-02 Thread Steven Stallion
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 10:02 AM, marius a. eriksen mar...@monkey.org wrote: I use a 13” rMBP at the highest resolution setting. I run acme with 3 columns (though the leftmost column is a shrunk column that’s really only useful for directory browsing). The only annoyance is that I regularly

[9fans] LSI Fusion-MPT SAS 2.0 SCSI Host Adapter

2013-08-15 Thread Steven Stallion
9fans, I've received permission to contribute the storage driver that forms the basis of Coraid's next generation SRX products. The source can be found here: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/stallion/src/sdmpt2.c A patch is also available: /n/sources/contrib/stallion/patch/sdmpt2 At

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-02 Thread Steven Stallion
I'm another Lenovo scrollpoint user, though I don't care for it as much as Joseph. I've used the magic mouse on Mac OS for plan9port and drawterm with a couple of actions bound to swipe actions that has worked well too. I've been curious about the contour mouse, though I haven't been curious

Re: [9fans] Hardware recommandations for new CPU and file servers

2013-06-05 Thread Steven Stallion
+1 to this, though I use a different chassis. Since I'm relegated to an apartment at the moment, I have a desktop rack mounted in a closet. My development boards are set on top of the cabinet with 6-32 1/2 standoffs, which rest on an ESD mat grounded to the rack. It's small, but gives me about 8U

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-03 Thread Steven Stallion
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:19 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: unfortunately, as far as i know plan 9 can't be used as a primary loader most of the environments where uboot is used because we haven't written the (usually small) memory initialization code, etc. It's more than

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-03 Thread Steven Stallion
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 11:43 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: It's more than that. Many board vendors will use a secured stage 1 bootloader that assumes U-Boot. It's probably possible to shove in a good point. what are the secure loaders assuming? I have no idea - those

Re: [9fans] Fossil disk usage over 100%?

2013-06-03 Thread Steven Stallion
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 1:14 PM, Federico G. Benavento benave...@gmail.comwrote: Don't worry, I'm not going to bore you with my stories about how fossil/venti saved my life so many times and never lost a file, I'll just keep using it. Now *that* sounds like a story worth listening too!

Re: [9fans] Fossil disk usage over 100%?

2013-06-03 Thread Steven Stallion
On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 3:17 PM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: In the end we have to fall back on 'it works for me' done we? I think there is a certain amount of wisdom in choosing and (more importantly) accepting a tool. Provided you aren't attempting to hammer a screw, there is a lot

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-02 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 6:09 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: also note, that the kw kernel is bootable without uimage support. Sure, though supporting uImage means you get a few things for free, not to mention it isn't ELF. This deserves a proper write up - I'll probably do

Re: [9fans] ARM and u-boot

2013-06-01 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sat, Jun 1, 2013 at 12:19 AM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: Since it has u-boot installed and that the mapping of the flash is given does one know if one could build a Plan9 kernel, write it (via u-boot) to the flash and be able to boot? It's quite possible. I even have it working. :-) A

Re: [9fans] Fossil disk usage over 100%?

2013-05-31 Thread Steven Stallion
at 1:06 PM, Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in wrote: On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 12:53:03PM -0700, Steven Stallion wrote: long-lived fossil (approximately 9 months) :)

Re: [9fans] anyone put their venti on an SSD?

2013-05-04 Thread Steven Stallion
Makes sense. Moving to plan9port had more to do with making better use of the ReadyNAS in the rack than anything else. The performance was a nice if unexpected side-effect. On Friday, May 3, 2013, erik quanstrom wrote: On Fri May 3 23:27:40 EDT 2013, sstall...@gmail.com javascript:; wrote:

Re: [9fans] anyone put their venti on an SSD?

2013-05-03 Thread Steven Stallion
I had originally used a Crucial 32GB SSD years ago and swapped to a 55GB OCZ enterprise drive (using sdahci). More recently I've moved my venti arenas over to plan9port and have switched over to using the entire SSD for fossil. So far this has been faster than running venti natively - though I

Re: [9fans] Google IO

2013-04-20 Thread Steven Stallion
Ditto. On Sat, Apr 20, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Christopher Nielsen cniel...@pobox.comwrote: I wasn't able to get tickets, but I live in SF and would love to meet up with other 9fans for a beer. -- Christopher Nielsen They who can give up essential liberty for temporary safety, deserve neither

Re: [9fans] Loader dependencies

2013-04-10 Thread Steven Stallion
Nah, ld is warranted. I've posted a patch somewhat recently to add uImage support that would fit in as well. Geoff had mentioned an interest in adding support to each of the loaders rather than just 5l. On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:58 PM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: elf.c and elf.h are

[9fans] Loader dependencies

2013-04-09 Thread Steven Stallion
gunge% mk mk: don't know how to make '../8l/elf.h' in directory /usr/stallion/src/armv7a/5l ... really? I assume this crept in as a part of Geoff's latest ELF changes.

Re: [9fans] Loader dependencies

2013-04-09 Thread Steven Stallion
I understand the taxonomy. I'm commenting on the general laziness of the change. Given that many of us tend to work on acl changes in isolation, this is an annoyance at best. On Tue, Apr 9, 2013 at 10:49 PM, David du Colombier 0in...@gmail.comwrote: gunge% mk mk: don't know how to make

Re: [9fans] GSoC 2013 - ~24 hours left for org application!

2013-03-29 Thread Steven Stallion
U-Boot also performs relocation based on the load address which simplifies the boot process. I'm working on an XIP kernel, which has cut around 100 LOC out of l.s. It's a small change, but simplifies things considerably. On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 3:19 AM, Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote:

Re: [9fans] GSoC 2013 - ~24 hours left for org application!

2013-03-29 Thread Steven Stallion
. On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 9:17 AM, Steven Stallion sstall...@gmail.comwrote: U-Boot also performs relocation based on the load address which simplifies the boot process. I'm working on an XIP kernel, which has cut around 100 LOC out of l.s. It's a small change, but simplifies things considerably

Re: [9fans] GSoC 2013 - ~24 hours left for org application!

2013-03-29 Thread Steven Stallion
I've been using an Arndale board. It needed a small bit of rework to simplify power cycling the board, otherwise it's been quite good. On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 6:14 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: On Fri Mar 29 12:20:27 EDT 2013, sstall...@gmail.com wrote: I should probably

Re: [9fans] GSoC 2013 - ~24 hours left for org application!

2013-03-28 Thread Steven Stallion
Hey Anthony, I'd be happy to sign up as a Mentor again this year. I haven't added this to the ideas page yet since I've been keeping the project mostly quiet, but I've been working on porting Plan 9 to the ARM Chromebook. It might not be the best project for a student since at the moment, it

Re: [9fans] GSoC 2013 - ~24 hours left for org application!

2013-03-28 Thread Steven Stallion
Damn you Gmail. Damn you.

Re: [9fans] GSoC 2013 - ~24 hours left for org application!

2013-03-28 Thread Steven Stallion
'ish. Samsung's documents are somewhat rough, but enough to get a basic debugging environment setup. I've recently added support to U-Boot for Plan 9 kernel images and submitted a patch (arm-uboot), which adds an option to the loader to generate a uImage. Eventually I need to write everything up

Re: [9fans] GSoC 2013 - ~24 hours left for org application!

2013-03-28 Thread Steven Stallion
USB has been working quite well so far. The Arndale board has an onboard ASIX, which has been working quite well for tftp booting kernel images. On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 5:15 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: So far I believe the only real annoyance is lack of public documentation

Re: [9fans] atol() bug

2013-03-11 Thread Steven Stallion
from atof(2): BUGS Atoi, atol, and atoll accept octal and hexadecimal numbers in the style of C, contrary to the ANSI specification. On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 3:09 PM, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: The atol() manpage says: Atoi and atol recognize an

Re: [9fans] info for manual

2013-01-08 Thread Steven Stallion
Inside joke. On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 4:31 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: On Mon Jan 7 19:30:14 EST 2013, cardifrance...@gmail.com wrote: Tsk. Those Vita Nuova types are so unreliable... why? i believe this was an inside joke rather than a serious comment. - erik

Re: [9fans] info for manual

2013-01-07 Thread Steven Stallion
Tsk. Those Vita Nuova types are so unreliable... On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Francesco Cardi cardifrance...@gmail.comwrote: http://www.vitanuova.com/plan9/index.html this manual exist in italian language? maybe? i wrote email to vitanuova and staff but i am not recived mail -- Cardi

Re: [9fans] Mercurial and Plan 9

2013-01-04 Thread Steven Stallion
Hi Jeff, Mercurial has been taken care of! I more or less track the latest stable (stallion/mercurial). The existing Python port is sufficient for Mercurial, though having a native Python port would be great. I've added Plan 9 support upstream in the Mercurial repository, so future builds are

Re: [9fans] Using Acme Remotely

2012-10-26 Thread Steven Stallion
On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 8:34 AM, KevinK kevin.paul.k...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Very new plan9 user here--just installed plan 9 from user space yesterday. Acme seems like a very interesting text editor, and I'd like to give it a try. However, after searching around the documentation and

Re: [9fans] rdbfs(4) woes

2012-09-02 Thread Steven Stallion
Bump, though admittedly this is not as much fan as complaining about rc's shortcomings. On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 7:07 PM, Steven Stallion sstall...@gmail.com wrote: 9fans, I dusted off rdbfs(4) today to dig into a kernel issue and ended up running into what looks like the same issue bwc

[9fans] rdbfs(4) woes

2012-08-28 Thread Steven Stallion
9fans, I dusted off rdbfs(4) today to dig into a kernel issue and ended up running into what looks like the same issue bwc reported back in 2005: barstow% import cons /mnt/consoles barstow% rdbfs -d -t /386/9pccpu /mnt/consoles/target attach /mnt/consoles/target barstow% acid -k 1 /386/9pccpu

Re: [9fans] tcp!

2012-08-22 Thread Steven Stallion
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Gorka Guardiola pau...@gmail.com wrote: I had this problem several years ago with an adsl router (9fans archive may know about this). There was a bug in my adsl router (which seems to be common, I have seen it since more than once) that dropped ethernet

Re: [9fans] Mercurial port is official

2012-05-03 Thread Steven Stallion
On Thu, May 3, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Akshat Kumar aku...@mail.nanosouffle.net wrote: This hasn't been working for me, with codereview. In particular, when hg tries to upload data to the codereview server, I get an exception (on the first `change' or subsequent `upload' commands): term% hg

Re: [9fans] Mercurial port is official

2012-05-01 Thread Steven Stallion
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 11:46 AM, Steven Stallion sstall...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:45 AM, Jens Staal staal1...@gmail.com wrote: fredagen den 27 april 2012 08.04.16 skrev  Steven Stallion: All, I'm happy to report that the official Mecurial port is complete and has been

Re: [9fans] lucidasans and 日本語表示

2012-04-28 Thread Steven Stallion
On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 9:42 PM, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: The real question is what the default font should be; I leave that decision to others. You mean change the hardcoded font name in /sys/src/cmd/acme/acme.c? By the way, I'll follow your suggestion to add 日本語 to

[9fans] Mercurial port is official

2012-04-27 Thread Steven Stallion
All, I'm happy to report that the official Mecurial port is complete and has been accepted upstream. Starting with version 2.2, Mercurial will support Plan 9 and friends out of the box. You can find more information about the port here: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/Plan9FromBellLabs

Re: [9fans] Mercurial port is official

2012-04-27 Thread Steven Stallion
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 9:40 AM, balaji balaji.srinivasa+pl...@gmail.com wrote: This is great news. Bichued fixed some of fgb's intial port work to make it work on plan9. If i'm not mistaken its to do with threading etc, but it was working well, including hgweb. I'm curious to know (ofcourse

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on ESX?

2012-03-27 Thread Steven Stallion
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 2:30 PM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone doing this?  I've had a crazy, no ZANY, notion of running ESX as my host OS, then spinning up all the various windows, freebsd, or Plan 9's that I need as necessary on my work workstation. Hi Dave, Yes it's been

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 on ESX?

2012-03-27 Thread Steven Stallion
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:41 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: kfs certainly is a trusty warhorse.  did you experiment with cwfs? Honestly I never found the time, but I remember it looked like a good replacement. Steve

[9fans] Mercurial and Plan 9

2012-03-14 Thread Steven Stallion
All, I have to admit I've been a bit late posting to the list regarding updates to Mercurial. As Erik has mentioned a couple of times, a 1.7.5 port was made last year (a factotum extension for http/https authentication was also written; see /n/sources/contrib/stallion/src/mercurial). This port

Re: [9fans] Mercurial and Plan 9

2012-03-14 Thread Steven Stallion
On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 11:28 PM, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote: Do you see this as a potential GSoC effort?  The sans-ape version, build based off CPython 2.7 or 3.x?  There are more dependencies than just Python, but if we did have this updated then there would be more

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