Hello,
I was now a bit surprised when using the '+-' idiom in acme.
So far I've always used it to select the whole 'current' line.
That works ok as long as one is somewhere 'inside' the line.
However, when I am just at its beginning, like before 'H' on this
line, it selects the previous line.
Is
On Mon Apr 19 03:14:14 EDT 2010, rudolf.syk...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I was now a bit surprised when using the '+-' idiom in acme.
So far I've always used it to select the whole 'current' line.
That works ok as long as one is somewhere 'inside' the line.
However, when I am just at its
the idiom is -+ try + then - one-at-a-time and you'll see why.
- erik
Well, ok, -+ works in any case, so it's actually what I usually need.
Still I don't fully understand.
The man page says:
Some useful idioms: a1+- (a1-+) selects
the line containing the end (beginning) of a1.
Isn't it
this seems like a bug to me - it doesn't follow the description
in the manual page. the end of the empty selection at the
start of a line is surely within that line.
i had a look at the code, and was surprised by the fact that
the logic appears to implemented in two places;
middle clicking Edit +
I configured mailfs so now I can read email, thanks.
But writing mail is not going so well:
$ cat $PLAN9/log/smtp.fail
myhost Mar 23 11:21:44 bad network /net/net!my.smtp.server!smtp (my.smtp.server)
myhost Mar 23 11:28:06 bad network /net/net!my.smtp.server!smtp (my.smtp.server)
myhost Mar 23
Hello,
if you haven't done so yet, you need to edit the
$PLAN9/mail/lib/rewrite file like that:
# send all mail to the gateway or mail server, $smtp, for delivery
([^!]*)!(.*)| $PLAN9/mail/lib/qmail '\s' 'xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx'
'\...@\1'
where xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx is the ip address of your
it by name
afterwards.
hth,
Mathieu
-- Mensaje reenviado --
From: hugo rivera uai...@gmail.com
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs 9fans@9fans.net
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:18:56 +0100
Subject: Re: [9fans] using acme/Mail from plan9port in Linux
I configured mailfs so
-- Mensaje reenviado --
From: hugo rivera uai...@gmail.com
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs 9fans@9fans.net
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:18:56 +0100
Subject: Re: [9fans] using acme/Mail from plan9port in Linux
I configured mailfs so now I can read email, thanks.
But writing mail
Nope, I hardly ever tried nedmail. Others like Erik might know.
jsyk, saving a message is dead easy from acme Mail, you just middle
click on Save imapfoldername ;) (assuming the imap folder already
exists)
i don't know about the current nedmail for p9p. i'd guess
that's a path problem.
when I'm reading the mail on my imap server
with nedmail, and I want to save a message, I get
: 3 w /tmp/3
!message disappeared
I have no idea if this is related but in the early days with gmail it would
automaticially remove messages when they where downloaded so they disappeared
as fast as
On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote:
when I'm reading the mail on my imap server
with nedmail, and I want to save a message, I get
: 3 w /tmp/3
!message disappeared
I have no idea if this is related but in the early days with gmail it would
Did gmail stop doing that?
I think there as a fix, perhaps gmail now
supports imap, or perhaps there was an option to disable
this mode of operation?
I rarely use my gmail account, prefering nedmail ☺
-Steve
I have no idea if this is related but in the early days with gmail it would
automaticially remove messages when they where downloaded so they disappeared
as fast as you tried to read them.
Perhaps your imap server is doing somthing similar?
That was with POP3, not with IMAP.
As to the
Thanks a lot!
2010/3/23 Russ Cox r...@swtch.com:
I have no idea if this is related but in the early days with gmail it would
automaticially remove messages when they where downloaded so they disappeared
as fast as you tried to read them.
Perhaps your imap server is doing somthing similar?
Sorry, I wrote $HOME/bin/pipefrom
but in fact I meant $HOME/mail/pipefrom.
Russ
2010/1/28 Russ Cox r...@swtch.com:
if you ran ls -l /mnt/acme/* in plan 9 you'd get the
same behavior. the difference is that 9p has
optimized the star-free case in a way that unix
cannot take advantage of.
ls -ld /mnt/acme/* would be a better illustration, i think.
On 24 Jan 2010, at 9:51 pm, Russ Cox wrote:
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 12:09 PM, David Leimbach
leim...@gmail.com wrote:
How about on MacFUSE? I remember there being some issues there.
In fact,
I'm now using an SSHFS that is *not* a FUSE module, but a pretty
nicely done
independent
Anyway, Russ' suggestion worked.
The only weird behaviour is that listing /mnt/acme opens a new empty window
in acme...
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis
eeke...@fastmail.fmwrote:
On 24 Jan 2010, at 9:51 pm, Russ Cox wrote:
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 12:09 PM, David
i guess that's because it's walking into mnt/acme/new,
which creates a new window.
i've thought in the past that perhaps the first write
to a file in mnt/acme/new should create the window,
rather than just walking to it.
it always seems odd to me that du -a /mnt has side effects.
2010/1/27
On Wed Jan 27 08:42:31 EST 2010, rogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
i guess that's because it's walking into mnt/acme/new,
which creates a new window.
i've thought in the past that perhaps the first write
to a file in mnt/acme/new should create the window,
rather than just walking to it.
it
fuse is probably just doing a stat of each file, as is
conventional and necessary in unix.
the 9p fuse converter can't legitimately cache the
qids from the directory read, so there's probably
no other way.
2010/1/27 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net:
On Wed Jan 27 08:42:31 EST 2010,
Thanks for generating the debug trace, that's a wacky place for a
problem, fidcreate should just be allocating resources. I'll try and
reproduce and add it to the bug list. There were some latent boofhead
bugs in the option parsing code -- its possible that there's one in
the trans_fd option
On Wed Jan 27 09:37:02 EST 2010, rogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
fuse is probably just doing a stat of each file, as is
conventional and necessary in unix.
the 9p fuse converter can't legitimately cache the
qids from the directory read, so there's probably
no other way.
why is it walking there
reflection of Linux VFS operations into 9P is often a strange and
interesting experience.
-eric
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 3:20 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
On Wed Jan 27 09:37:02 EST 2010, rogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
fuse is probably just doing a stat of each file, as is
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote:
reflection of Linux VFS operations into 9P is often a strange and
interesting experience.
Wish I could find Lucho's email on this, but the Linux guys
particularly don't like things like clone files; Our scripts will
Our scripts will read them and cause trouble is the basic complaint.
unlike reading all those harmless files in /dev with no side-effects whatsoever
why is it walking there in the first place? i might
be able to understand fuse reading the top level
directory. but new isn't even at the top level.
yes it is. /mnt/acme is the root, hence /mnt/acme/new
is in the top level.
ls -l /mnt/acme
does a directory read to obtain just the names of
Hi all,
I'm trying to use 9 mount to mount acme's socket (in `namespace`/acme) to
some directory in /mnt (let's say /mnt/acme). I'm using ArchLInux:
$ uname -a
Linux eee 2.6.32-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Dec 26 08:26:17 UTC 2009 i686
Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N280 @ 1.66GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
The
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Lorenzo Bolla lbo...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm trying to use 9 mount to mount acme's socket (in `namespace`/acme) to
some directory in /mnt (let's say /mnt/acme). I'm using ArchLInux:
$ uname -a
Linux eee 2.6.32-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Dec 26 08:26:17 UTC 2009 i686
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.comwrote:
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 7:02 AM, Lorenzo Bolla lbo...@gmail.com wrote:
I'm trying to use 9 mount to mount acme's socket (in `namespace`/acme)
to
some directory in /mnt (let's say /mnt/acme). I'm using ArchLInux:
$
plan9port works well with FUSE.
It works less well with the 9p module.
Assuming you have write permission on /mnt/acme
and FUSE installed,
acme -m /mnt/acme
should work just fine.
Russ
How about on MacFUSE? I remember there being some issues there. In fact,
I'm now using an SSHFS that is *not* a FUSE module, but a pretty nicely done
independent implementation.
Dave
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 11:27 AM, Russ Cox r...@swtch.com wrote:
plan9port works well with FUSE.
It works
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 12:09 PM, David Leimbach leim...@gmail.com wrote:
How about on MacFUSE? I remember there being some issues there. In fact,
I'm now using an SSHFS that is *not* a FUSE module, but a pretty nicely done
independent implementation.
The only MacFUSE issues have been using
I followed these excellent instructions to the end (mailfs:
imapconnect: Success) and get this error when I try to button-2-click
Mail in acme.
mailfs: imapconnect: Success
Mail: cannot mount mail: dial unix!/tmp/ns.jdc.192.168.1.102:0/mail:
connect /tmp/ns.jdc.192.168.1.102:0/mail: No such file
Hi all,
can anyone point me to a document (if any) that explains how to use
acme/Mail to read e-mail in Linux?
I couldn't find any useful information in the plan9port distribution and it
does not work out-of-the-box.
Thanks for your help!
L.
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 10:33 PM, Lorenzo Bolla lbo...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
can anyone point me to a document (if any) that explains how to use
acme/Mail to read e-mail in Linux?
I couldn't find any useful information in the plan9port distribution and it
does not work out-of-the-box.
2009/8/5 Russ Cox r...@swtch.com:
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Rudolf Sykorarudolf.syk...@gmail.com wrote:
I noticed that when running acme in plan9port and having its
directories mounted say on /mnt/acme, then if I try from within a win
window in the acme to auto-complete a directory
Hello,
I noticed that when running acme in plan9port and having its
directories mounted say on /mnt/acme, then if I try from within a win
window in the acme to auto-complete a directory name---I am in /mnt, I
type 'a' and hit the 'insert' key or ctrl-f, or I am anywhere inside
the acme
On Tue, Aug 4, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Rudolf Sykorarudolf.syk...@gmail.com wrote:
I noticed that when running acme in plan9port and having its
directories mounted say on /mnt/acme, then if I try from within a win
window in the acme to auto-complete a directory name---I am in /mnt, I
type 'a' and
2009/7/28 J.R. Mauro jrm8...@gmail.com:
One caveat about E: if you're paranoid like I am and save your file
many times while editing, E will not be terribly friendly until you
train yourself to save only when finished. (This is not a criticism of
E, it is merely a warning to people with my
On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 2:55 AM, sqweeksqw...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/7/28 J.R. Mauro jrm8...@gmail.com:
One caveat about E: if you're paranoid like I am and save your file
many times while editing, E will not be terribly friendly until you
train yourself to save only when finished. (This is not
Hello,
Is there some idiom or method for using Acme as an external editor to some
other program? Say I want to use it as the editor that is spawned when I
do a CVS commit to a system; how would I do this, or can this even be
done? I'm using plan9ports, but I don't know how much of this
Take a look at B, which can be used to send a file
to acme. Also you may want to familiarize yourself with plumb.
Hello,
Is there some idiom or method for using Acme as an external editor to some
other program? Say I want to use it as the editor that is spawned when I
do a CVS commit
Is there some idiom or method for using Acme as an external editor to some
other program? Say I want to use it as the editor that is spawned when I do a
CVS commit to a system; how would I do this, or can this even be done? I'm
using plan9ports, but I don't know how much of this question
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Tim Newshamnews...@lava.net wrote:
Is there some idiom or method for using Acme as an external editor to some
other program? Say I want to use it as the editor that is spawned when I do
a CVS commit to a system; how would I do this, or can this even be done?
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 2:22 PM, Russ Coxr...@swtch.com wrote:
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Tim Newshamnews...@lava.net wrote:
Is there some idiom or method for using Acme as an external editor to some
other program? Say I want to use it as the editor that is spawned when I do
a CVS
Is this with a remote
X or some other high latency connection to the
underlying graphics?
Right on my laptop. But ubuntu 9.04 is known to have X issues and I
did not know if this was another one.
Has anybody figured this one out? I just updated to Ubuntu 9.04 and
I'm seeing exactly the
Hello,
I have another problem with acme.
Lets say I want to check the spelling in all the comments in a c file,
so I execute:
Edit ,x/\/\*.*\*\// spell (nevermind this doesn't work for more
than one line comments)
and nothing happens. This doesn't mean that my spelling is good, since
I saw some
2009/6/26 hugo rivera uai...@gmail.com:
Hello,
I have another problem with acme.
Lets say I want to check the spelling in all the comments in a c file,
so I execute:
Edit ,x/\/\*.*\*\// spell (nevermind this doesn't work for more
than one line comments)
and nothing happens.
this seems
Hi,
I am not really sure how can this be done, if at all.
Lets imagine I have a program in my path, that I want to execute from
acme, called New (yes, the same name as the acme's New command). How
do I execute it by middle clicking on it without acme thinking I am
refering to its own command and,
How
do I execute it by middle clicking on it without acme thinking I am
refering to its own command and, therefore, creating a new window that
I never wanted?
You type /bin/New, instead? It would work 99% of the time.
++L
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:01 AM, hugo rivera uai...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I am not really sure how can this be done, if at all.
Lets imagine I have a program in my path, that I want to execute from
acme, called New (yes, the same name as the acme's New command). How
do I execute it by middle
uh, obviously.
Sorry for the stupid question and the noise.
2009/2/18, lu...@proxima.alt.za lu...@proxima.alt.za:
How
do I execute it by middle clicking on it without acme thinking I am
refering to its own command and, therefore, creating a new window that
I never wanted?
You type
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:16 AM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
You type /bin/New, instead? It would work 99% of the time.
dang, what was I thinking. I am such a caveman. I'm going back to
reading entrails.
ron
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 7:16 AM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
You type /bin/New, instead? It would work 99% of the time.
dang, what was I thinking. I am such a caveman. I'm going back to
reading entrails.
I do agree with you that making up commands to match acme's built-ins
is a
When I'm using p9p acme under OSX and I have a compile/svn commit
etc... running in a win window and if I click on other windows a few
times acme will freeze. Has any one else noticed this behavior?
Noah
On Nov 12, 2008, at 8:38 PM, Russ Cox wrote:
On Wed, Nov 12, 2008 at 1:16 PM, Noah Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
When I'm using p9p acme under OSX and I have a compile/svn commit
etc... running in a win window and if I click on other windows a few
times acme will freeze. Has any one else
My version of osx-srv.c is more recent:
-rw-r--r--@ 1 npe npe 7039 Oct 13 09:45
/usr/local/plan9/src/cmd/devdraw/osx-srv.c
-rwxr-xr-x 1 npe npe 459488 Oct 13 09:46 /usr/local/plan9/bin/acme
that fix made acme *a lot* more stable, although this particular bug
seems to be tickling something
* erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081008 13:46]:
1) Are you sure you are running the new, native gui version? Your hg info
suggests this is the case, but I want to make sure you recompiled the
binaries between now and then.
Yes I do run native and I rebuild everything just to make
- Original Message -
From: Noah Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs 9fans@9fans.net
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 12:53 AM
Subject: Re: [9fans] p9p acme freezes on devdraw read in MacOS X
The fixes work very well. Thank you.
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5
Here native = the carbon OS-X gui rewrite, not native plan 9. Sorry for the
confusion!
--underspecified
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:44 PM, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
1) Are you sure you are running the new, native gui version? Your hg
info
suggests this is the case, but I want to
Greetings,
I have been using a scroll wheel in p9p's acme on OS-X for some time without
any problems.
This raises a few questions about your setup:
1) Are you sure you are running the new, native gui version? Your hg info
suggests this is the case, but I want to make sure you recompiled the
* underspecified [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081008 14:14]:
In principle the scroll wheel and touchpad should be sending the same events
when scrolling,
so if it fails with just the mouse, I think the problem is more likely to be
specific to that mouse.
Have you tried any other mice? My Lenovo
1) Are you sure you are running the new, native gui version? Your hg info
suggests this is the case, but I want to make sure you recompiled the
binaries between now and then.
Yes I do run native and I rebuild everything just to make sure.
i'm confused. you send a gdb backtrace from native
Greetings,
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 8:40 PM, Christian Kellermann
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* underspecified [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081008 13:26]:
1) Are you sure you are running the new, native gui version? Your hg info
suggests this is the case, but I want to make sure you recompiled the
I have tracked this down along with another OS X display problem.
I will push out the fix later today.
Russ
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Russ Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have tracked this down along with another OS X display problem.
I will push out the fix later today.
This fix and the resize fix is now in hg and cvs.
Russ
The fixes work very well. Thank you.
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:05 PM, Russ Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 1:41 PM, Russ Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have tracked this down along with another OS X display problem.
I will push out the fix later today.
This fix and the
Hi All,
I was trying to write some acme scripts, but eventually found out /mnt/
acme is empty.
do I need to do anything to get entries under /mnt/acme
P.S: /mnt/acme is empty in both 9vx and VMWare'ed Plan9
/Prem
Hi All,
I was trying to write some acme scripts, but eventually found out /mnt/
acme is empty.
do I need to do anything to get entries under /mnt/acme
P.S: /mnt/acme is empty in both 9vx and VMWare'ed Plan9
were you checking from an acme window? /mnt/acme is not
part of your login
Date: Sun Dec 16 13:23:58 EST 2007
Under P9P acme (using hg changeset 2690), when a column is resized or
a window is moved from one column to another, directory windows are
not refreshed. This requires the user to manually Get the window
after each resize so that the contents are laid out
Is this another out of memory? This
happened on a mk clean on kernel source
It would not surprise me if the new pager (post-0.12)
caused the problem, but in order for that
to happen the kernel would have had to print
uh oh. someone woke the pager
first. Did that happen? I've done a
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:16 AM, Russ Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is this another out of memory? This
happened on a mk clean on kernel source
It would not surprise me if the new pager (post-0.12)
caused the problem, but in order for that
to happen the kernel would have had to print
Here's a bigger question, now that I've read the paper and briefly
scanned the code. Do you have some thoughts on the long term ability
of vx32 to get close to unity performance on a system (like Plan 9)
with a high rate of context switches between file server processes
(you allude ot this
On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 6:40 AM, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's a bigger question, now that I've read the paper and briefly
scanned the code. Do you have some thoughts on the long term ability
of vx32 to get close to unity performance on a system (like Plan 9)
with a high rate
It would not surprise me if the new pager (post-0.12)
caused the problem, but in order for that
to happen the kernel would have had to print
uh oh. someone woke the pager
That I did not see. Just the no segment error.
You can run acid inside 9vx to get a stack trace of the
broken
specific discussion in an associated Google group.
Go to http://code.google.com/p/acme-sac/ and look at the Groups link in
particular.
You might want to try that group first, since it's most specific.---BeginMessage---
Is it ok to post questions about acme-sac on 9fans, or is there some other
place
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