Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-14 Thread Kyle Laracey
On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 4:53:04 PM UTC-4, a...@9srv.net wrote: // It would be tres cool if this information was getting // mirrored in the Wiki. I've been copying over some of the more concise and complete reports, but yes: people with working setups should add their

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-14 Thread Kyle Laracey
On Monday, March 11, 2013 4:47:45 PM UTC-4, Matthew Veety wrote: On Mar 11, 2013, at 16:36, Bakul Shah wrote: Note: if your host uses wifi but no ethernet, bridged adapter won't work. That's card dependent. It needs to support promisc mode AFAIK. Not all cards support it. I

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-14 Thread Kyle Laracey
On Monday, March 11, 2013 12:36:25 PM UTC-4, erik quanstrom wrote: Neither have a very extensive description on their homepages. hmm. what kind of description are you expecting? - erik Sorry. I guess 9atom does explain that it adds specific hardware functionality and software,

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-14 Thread Kyle Laracey
On Monday, March 11, 2013 4:56:16 PM UTC-4, Bakul Shah wrote: On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:47:45 EDT Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 11, 2013, at 16:36, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: Note: if your host uses wifi but no ethernet, bridged adapter won't

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-14 Thread Kyle Laracey
On Monday, March 11, 2013 4:36:38 PM UTC-4, Bakul Shah wrote: On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:50:07 BST David du Colombier wrote: I've been trying for about two days to get the stock Plan9 from Bell Labs to install with Networking under Virtual Box Bell Labs Plan 9 and networking

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-14 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Mar 14 09:06:51 EDT 2013, 23h...@gmail.com wrote: the difference about 9front is that it also works on real hardware, so you don't need to mess with these VMs. i think you misspelled similarity. i'm sure you can point to some instances of hardware not working in plan 9 and working in

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-14 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 09:38:26AM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: On Thu Mar 14 09:06:51 EDT 2013, 23h...@gmail.com wrote: the difference about 9front is that it also works on real hardware, so you don't need to mess with these VMs. i think you misspelled similarity. i'm sure you can

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-14 Thread Matthew Veety
On Mar 14, 2013, at 11:43, Kyle Laracey kalara...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday, March 11, 2013 4:56:16 PM UTC-4, Bakul Shah wrote: On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:47:45 EDT Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 11, 2013, at 16:36, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: Note: if your

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-14 Thread Bakul Shah
On Mar 14, 2013, at 6:05 AM, hiro 23h...@gmail.com wrote: the difference about 9front is that it also works on real hardware, so you don't need to mess with these VMs. A VM is far more convenient and portable for me.

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-14 Thread Bakul Shah
On Mar 14, 2013, at 4:43 AM, Kyle Laracey wrote: On Monday, March 11, 2013 4:56:16 PM UTC-4, Bakul Shah wrote: Just discovered that at least on the MBP you can get bridged mode to work by using en1: Wi-Fi (AirPort). Really? I have the same setup as you mentioned, with Bridged Adapter,

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-12 Thread a
// It would be tres cool if this information was getting // mirrored in the Wiki. I've been copying over some of the more concise and complete reports, but yes: people with working setups should add their experiences there. For those who have not used the wiki, editing existing pages is pretty

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-12 Thread erik quanstrom
² It'd be neat if someone would work out how to get the plumber to handle /mnt/wiki paths (or some conventional mapping thereof) so we could pass them around as pseudo-hotlinks. just need to mount wikifs in the namespace of the plumber with Local. - erik

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-12 Thread a
Not unless I'm missing something. That makes the paths plumbable, sure, but it doesn't hand them to Wiki (the acme program), so you just get the directory that Wiki reads, which isn't really the best situation. Shouldn't be much to it. Anthony ---BeginMessage--- ² It'd be neat if someone would

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-11 Thread erik quanstrom
Neither have a very extensive description on their homepages. hmm. what kind of description are you expecting? - erik

[9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-11 Thread Kyle Laracey
Hello I've had difficulty installing the vanilla Plan9 from Bell Labs in VirtualBox / QEMU, and now I am going to try one of the forks, 9atom or 9Front, which both seem to have more hardware support / software. However, the descriptions on their homepages are brief; could someone please point

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-11 Thread David du Colombier
I've been trying for about two days to get the stock Plan9 from Bell Labs to install with Networking under Virtual Box Bell Labs Plan 9 and networking works well in virtualbox 3.1.8 using Am79C973 virtual ethernet adapter in bridged mode, chipset PIIX3 selected and Enable IO APIC turned

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-11 Thread balaji
On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 12:50 PM, David du Colombier 0in...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying for about two days to get the stock Plan9 from Bell Labs to install with Networking under Virtual Box Bell Labs Plan 9 and networking works well in virtualbox 3.1.8 using Am79C973 virtual ethernet

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-11 Thread Bakul Shah
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 20:50:07 BST David du Colombier 0in...@gmail.com wrote: I've been trying for about two days to get the stock Plan9 from Bell Labs to install with Networking under Virtual Box Bell Labs Plan 9 and networking works well in virtualbox 3.1.8 using Am79C973 virtual

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-11 Thread Matthew Veety
On Mar 11, 2013, at 16:36, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: Note: if your host uses wifi but no ethernet, bridged adapter won't work. That's card dependent. It needs to support promisc mode AFAIK. Not all cards support it.

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-11 Thread Bakul Shah
On Mon, 11 Mar 2013 16:47:45 EDT Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote: On Mar 11, 2013, at 16:36, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: Note: if your host uses wifi but no ethernet, bridged adapter won't work. That's card dependent. It needs to support promisc mode AFAIK. Not all

Re: [9fans] 9atom vs 9front

2013-03-11 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
Settings that work for me: It would be tres cool if this information was getting mirrored in the Wiki.