Re: [9fans] 9grid again

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Re: [9fans] 9grid?

John Floren j...@jfloren.net once said: Write a basic http server for Plan 9 (in C) and run Apache Benchmark against it. Somewhere around 100 concurrent connections, I tend to get failure. There's code in /sys/src/9/ip that has a hard limit on the # of concurrent connections IIRC. What

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

On Wed Oct 24 03:32:07 EDT 2012, al...@pbrane.org wrote: John Floren j...@jfloren.net once said: Write a basic http server for Plan 9 (in C) and run Apache Benchmark against it. Somewhere around 100 concurrent connections, I tend to get failure. There's code in /sys/src/9/ip that has a hard

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That name has referred to at least two, possibly three, distinct and unrelated projects. I don't believe any of them are still ongoing. I also don't think any of them were aimed at becoming what i'd call a production resource. What is it you're looking for?

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

I only really considered one project to be substantial. That may be unfair. It was the one that LANL/UCal were involved in. I'm interested in the code for managing grid nodes and delegating tasks. Best, D On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:46 AM, Anthony Sorace a...@9srv.net wrote: That name has

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Don A. Bailey d...@capitolhillconsultants.com wrote: I'm interested in the code for managing grid nodes and delegating tasks. Real code? talk to charles. Or now that Go works, you could look at some of those packages. ron

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

Go embeds parallel/grid functionality now instead of just lightweight thread execution? Which packages would you point me at? Thanks, D On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:09 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 1:22 PM, Don A. Bailey d...@capitolhillconsultants.com wrote:

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

On 10/23/2012 8:11 PM, Don A. Bailey wrote: Go embeds parallel/grid functionality now instead of just lightweight thread execution? Which packages would you point me at? Thanks, D On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:09 PM, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com mailto:rminn...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct

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Does Go have issues in general with TCP connections, or is this a Plan 9 specific issue? D On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/23/2012 8:11 PM, Don A. Bailey wrote: Go embeds parallel/grid functionality now instead of just lightweight thread

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On 10/23/2012 8:44 PM, Don A. Bailey wrote: Does Go have issues in general with TCP connections, or is this a Plan 9 specific issue? D I haven't had any problems with Go on other platforms (FreeBSD and Mac OS X) except for CPU use sometimes and scheduling of goroutines. Both you can kinda

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If I wanted to be insulted, I'd subscribe to a Reddit feed. ;) D On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 05:44:42PM -0700, Don A. Bailey wrote: Does Go have issues in general with TCP connections, or is this a Plan 9 specific issue? D

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:41 PM, Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/23/2012 8:11 PM, Don A. Bailey wrote: Go embeds parallel/grid functionality now instead of just lightweight thread execution? Which packages would you point me at? Thanks, D On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:09 PM, ron

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Cool, thanks. I appreciate the response. D On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:51 PM, Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/23/2012 8:44 PM, Don A. Bailey wrote: Does Go have issues in general with TCP connections, or is this a Plan 9 specific issue? D I haven't had any problems with Go on

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

Thankfully, we are very well versed at tuning the Plan 9 kernel. I'll take your advice and develop the benchmark. Is your code concealed per work on NxM? Just curious as NxM seems to solve (in what little I know about it) some of the issues we are trying to solve with Go+Plan 9. D On Tue, Oct

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 06:11:54PM -0700, Don A. Bailey wrote: If I wanted to be insulted, I'd subscribe to a Reddit feed. ;) D Thanks for letting us know, D. The Right Reverend Kurt H. Maier, Esq. Daughter of the Fifth House of Betazed Holder of the Sacred Chalice of Rixx Heir to the Holy

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Haha, it's good to know the caustic wit of 9fans hasn't changed in the twelve years I've participated in it. Screen names change, but trolls will always persist. 3 D On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in wrote: On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 06:11:54PM -0700, Don A. Bailey

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

Write a basic http server for Plan 9 (in C) and run Apache Benchmark against it. Somewhere around 100 concurrent connections, I tend to get failure. There's code in /sys/src/9/ip that has a hard limit on the # of concurrent connections IIRC. I'd post the code for the server I wrote, but it

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

On Tue Oct 23 21:30:08 EDT 2012, d...@capitolhillconsultants.com wrote: Haha, it's good to know the caustic wit of 9fans hasn't changed in the twelve years I've participated in it. Screen names change, but trolls will always persist. biologists call it an ecological niche. - erik

Re: [9fans] 9grid?

If only Joseph Campbell were around to accurately define this lot. I think he'd get a bigger kick out of 9fans than he did the Grateful Dead. Well, maybe not. But close, I'm sure. D On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 6:34 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: On Tue Oct 23 21:30:08 EDT 2012,

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On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 06:29:19PM -0700, Don A. Bailey wrote: Haha, it's good to know the caustic wit of 9fans hasn't changed in the twelve years I've participated in it. Screen names change, but trolls will always persist. Unlike your desire to look at code? Why have you suddenly begun

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If I wanted to be insulted, I'd subscribe to a Reddit feed. ;) On Tue, 23 Oct 2012 18:42:48 PDT Don A. Bailey d...@capitolhillconsultants.com wrote: If only Joseph Campbell were around to accurately define this lot. I think he'd get a bigger kick out of 9fans than he did the

[9fans] 9grid?

Is 9grid still around? Has much progress been made on the viability of 9grid as a production resource in the past few years? Lots of the web data is down, so I'd love to hear from anyone using/working on 9grid resources? Thanks, D

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Re: [9fans] 9grid

Hi All, my /lib/ndb/auth is: hostid=bootes uid=!sys uid=!adm uid=* but i just remember that armando(user name) is also sys and adm, could it be the problem for speaks for? because, as i explained above i have no speaks for in /sys/log/auth when i try cpu(1) command from terminal, i also

Re: [9fans] 9grid

my /lib/ndb/auth is: hostid=bootes uid=!sys uid=!adm uid=* but i just remember that armando(user name) is also sys and adm, could it be the problem for speaks for? because, as i explained above i have no speaks for in /sys/log/auth when i try cpu(1) command from terminal, i also

Re: [9fans] 9grid

Hi Eric, I did what you told me, and i got the same as you wrote below. if you still have any idea, it will be helpful. thanks again, Armando. looking in /mnt/factotum/ctl on the console, you should see keys like these at a minimum terminal: key proto=p9sk1 dom=quanstro.net user=quanstro

Re: [9fans] 9grid

On Mon Nov 17 09:17:49 EST 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Eric, (sic) I did what you told me, and i got the same as you wrote below. if you still have any idea, it will be helpful. thanks again, you need to verify the keys also match. - erik

Re: [9fans] 9grid

thanks a lot eric.. what do you mean with match? Hi Eric, (sic) I did what you told me, and i got the same as you wrote below. if you still have any idea, it will be helpful. thanks again, you need to verify the keys also match. - erik

Re: [9fans] 9grid

On Nov 13, 8:45 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (erik quanstrom) wrote: ... cpu -h node -c 'name=`{cat ''#c/sysname''}; echo do something with $name' I added 'role=cpu' to my cpu servers in /lib/ndb/local, now I can do this for (node in `{ndb/query -a role cpu sys}) cpu -h $node -c 'name=`{cat

Re: [9fans] 9grid

Hi, I just did it: fsname% ndb/query -f /lib/ndb/auth hostid bootes fsname% i got no response,only the fs prompt.. but in /lib/ndb/auth.mio i have the same lines,so: hostid=bootes uid=!sys uid=!adm uid=* ?? thanks guys, Armando could it be that the equals sign (=) you typed

Re: [9fans] 9grid

Hi, I just did it: fsname% ndb/query -f /lib/ndb/auth hostid bootes fsname% i got no response,only the fs prompt.. but in /lib/ndb/auth.mio i have the same lines,so: hostid°otes uid dm uid ?? easy fix 9fs sources cp /n/sources/plan9/lib/ndb/auth /lib/ndb/auth

Re: [9fans] 9grid

On Fri Nov 14 04:48:04 EST 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 13, 8:45 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (erik quanstrom) wrote: ... cpu -h node -c 'name=`{cat ''#c/sysname''}; echo do something with $name' I added 'role=cpu' to my cpu servers in /lib/ndb/local, now I can do this for (node in

Re: [9fans] 9grid

Hi Eric, I did every thing you told me, but when i try again: fsname% ndb/query -f /lib/ndb/auth hostid bootes fsname% without no response. do you still have any idea??...because i'm thinkig to take a drill ;-))) thank you very much for your time. Armando easy fix         9fs sources

Re: [9fans] 9grid

I did it and it works, but do you have any idea why i can do it from file server as bootes but not from terminal as armando? there's probablly something wrong in your authentication setup. fs name% cpu -h NODE -c 'name=(equal sign)cat ''#c/sysname''; echo' cpu -h node -c 'name=`{cat

Re: [9fans] 9grid

Thanks a lot Eric, I did it and it works, but do you have any idea why i can do it from file server as bootes but not from terminal as armando? Furthermore, i would like to put that line into a variable, by doing (maybe in a wrong way): fs name% cpu -h NODE -c 'name=(equal sign)cat

Re: [9fans] 9grid

Thanks again Eric.. It works, sorry but i'm newbie in shell ;-) About the authentication problem, i checked /sys/log/auth, and i noticed that there are some lines with no speaks for,like this: fs name nov 13 18:50:09 tr-fail [EMAIL PROTECTED] (NODE ip address) - [EMAIL PROTECTED] no speaks for fs

Re: [9fans] 9grid

could it be that the equals sign (=) you typed in /lib/ndb/auth is not the normal equals sign (ascii 3d) but the equal sign of another encoding? that could be the reason why your /lib/ndb/auth can't be pasted properly in an email and can't be parsed correctly by tokenize().

Re: [9fans] 9grid

could it be that the equals sign (=) you typed in /lib/ndb/auth is not the normal equals sign (ascii 3d) but the equal sign of another encoding? that could be the reason why your /lib/ndb/auth can't be pasted properly in an email and can't be parsed correctly by tokenize(). easy test.

Re: [9fans] 9grid

Thanks a lot Ron, it was clearly a really nice response. You leave in no doubt about using between cpu and ssh. I would like to try to do it now, but it semms to me that i have authentication problems from terminal, because when i try to do cpu(1) command from terminal (log in as Armando) i got

Re: [9fans] 9grid

Thanks a lot Ron, it was clearly a really nice response. You leave in no doubt about using between cpu and ssh. I would like to try to do it now, but it semms to me that i have authentication problems from terminal, because when i try to do cpu(1) command from terminal (log in as Armando) i

Re: [9fans] 9grid

I have the same in lib/ndb/auth, i think google doesn't read the equal sign = from here, i don't know how you did it.. I don't understand very well what do you mean with as their root filesystem, but if you mean the bootargs line in the plan9.ini, they have the same bootargs line, otherwise i

Re: [9fans] 9grid

On 11 Nov, 15:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, i just ran some local  commands from cpu server, and it is ok, i'm gonna use the cpu servers only like a compute nodes. From cpu server i wanted to see responses , so  i did and got this:         cpus# ssh terminal name         ssh: dialing

Re: [9fans] 9grid

9grid is a distributed computing project, which features prominently the Plan 9 from Bell Labs operating system Armando On 11 Nov, 16:43, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Uriel) wrote: What is a '9grid'? uriel

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How cool! Tell me more Your ideas intrigue me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter. uriel On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 5:32 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 9grid is a distributed computing project, which features prominently the Plan 9 from Bell Labs operating system Armando On 11 Nov,

Re: [9fans] 9grid

Ok, i just ran some local commands from cpu server, and it is ok, i'm gonna use the cpu servers only like a compute nodes. From cpu server i wanted to see responses , so i did and got this: cpus# ssh terminal name ssh: dialing terminal name: connection refused cpus# ssh

Re: [9fans] 9grid

Ok, i just ran some local commands from cpu server, and it is ok, i'm gonna use the cpu servers only like a compute nodes. From cpu server i wanted to see responses , so i did and got this: cpus# ssh terminal name ssh: dialing terminal name: connection refused cpus#

Re: [9fans] 9grid

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 7:12 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks john, i would like to send simple programs (jobs) to the nodes (diskless cpu server) of a 9grid from terminal, and get responses from them. How can i do it? suppose you have a list of nodes cpu% NODES=(a b c d) cpu% echo

Re: [9fans] 9grid

What if you for whatever reason want a ps to show all the proces on all the nodes you're running on. for (i in $NODES) { import -a $i .com /proc /proc } what's the .com for? Your /proc is now the unified /proc of all your nodes. (I used to do this all the time with my plan 9

Re: [9fans] 9grid

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:11 PM, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What if you for whatever reason want a ps to show all the proces on all the nodes you're running on. for (i in $NODES) { import -a $i .com /proc /proc } what's the .com for? it's when I forgot to take part of the

Re: [9fans] 9grid

On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 4:36 PM, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the trivial solution on your hardware would be to partition the pid space, wouldn't it. just have 64bit pids? let each machine start at a 132 boundary? Sure. But you have to change the pid type in the kernel and and

Re: [9fans] 9grid

Thanks for replaying... Sorry but i got confusion about your replay, i think i don't understand very well I want to make it clear first that the file/auth server are the same pc, and the cpuservers are the nodes of the cluster (5 nodes), which are diskless, and a terminal (my laptop). I'd like to

[9fans] 9grid

Hi All, I'm accomplishing a 9grid, that is composed of a file server, 2 cluster (diskless cpuserver nodes) and a terminal.. I'm trying to connect to a cpuserver (node of 9grid) from a terminal, to launch some tasks, but i don't really know how to do it, i was trying with cpu(1) command, i was

Re: [9fans] 9grid

trying with cpu(1) command, i was doing: cpu -h fileservername and the prompt changed from term% to cpu%, and i supposed that was correct, but when i tried to connect to a cpuserver (all nodes are diskless) cpu -h cpuservername the prompt didn't change, is that correct? before doing

Re: [9fans] 9grid

I have a doubt.because i was thinking about all i have to do, and i don't know if using cpu command is the right thing to do. anyway, the fact is, i have to launch a simple task from terminal (connected by armando) to a node on the cluster (diskless cpu server), i thought that cpu command was

Re: [9fans] 9grid

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 9:35 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a doubt.because i was thinking about all i have to do, and i don't know if using cpu command is the right thing to do. anyway, the fact is, i have to launch a simple task from terminal (connected by armando) to a node on the