Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-08 Thread Steve McCoy
On Tuesday, July 2, 2013 10:18:09 PM UTC-4, Rob Pike wrote: I may be the only person in the world who works like this, and is therefore happy to move not one but two hands off the keyboard to use 2-d input devices. -rob This is actually how I've worked on my MacBook for a while, so you're

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-08 Thread Peter A. Cejchan
I have ThinkPad T23 and the stick works with native Plan 9... ++pac On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Joseph Xu joseph...@gmail.com wrote: I usually just lurk here, but I didn't want anybody else to go through 3 different mice like I did (HP 3 button mouse, contour mouse, evoluent mouse)

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-08 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
Hi Rob, 2013/7/2 Rob Pike robp...@gmail.com: Let me put in a word about the Apple wireless trackpad. I doubt it's got support in Plan 9, although it works from plan9port on the Mac. I am devoted to it now: I use it for scrolling. Right hand for pointing and clicking, left hand for scrolling.

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-08 Thread Nemo
On Jul 8, 2013, at 12:09 PM, Devon H. O'Dell devon.od...@gmail.com wrote: Although I spend a large part of my time on a Mac laptop, I'm a little puzzled at how or why one would use two hands with the trackpad doohickey. I use one pad|mouse combined with Fn keys defined as mouse buttons (with

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-08 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 06:09:14AM -0400, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: Although I spend a large part of my time on a Mac laptop, I'm a little puzzled at how or why one would use two hands with the trackpad doohickey. I just have the trackpad built-in -- I don't have the wireless trackpad -- but I'm

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-08 Thread Matthew Veety
On Jul 8, 2013, at 10:19, Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in wrote: On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 06:09:14AM -0400, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: Although I spend a large part of my time on a Mac laptop, I'm a little puzzled at how or why one would use two hands with the trackpad doohickey. I just have the

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-08 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2013/7/8 Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in: On Mon, Jul 08, 2013 at 06:09:14AM -0400, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: Although I spend a large part of my time on a Mac laptop, I'm a little puzzled at how or why one would use two hands with the trackpad doohickey. I just have the trackpad built-in -- I don't

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-08 Thread fgergo
On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 12:09 PM, Devon H. O'Dell devon.od...@gmail.com wrote: 2013/7/2 Rob Pike robp...@gmail.com: I may be the only person in the world who works like this, and is therefore happy to move not one but two hands off the keyboard to use 2-d input devices. why one would use

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-08 Thread Rob Pike
I sit at my desk with a computer (not a laptop) on the floor, a keyboard in front of me, a mouse on the right and a trackpad on the left. On the rare cases I'm programming on a laptop, it's really the same except for the location of the trackpad. In particular, there's still a mouse. -rob

[9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-02 Thread Caleb Malchik
I'm considering buying a Logitech M-S35 to help me learn sam/acme. My only worry is that I'll wish I had a scroll wheel. It seems that clicking the scroll bar whenever I want to scroll would take some focus, and I shouldn't have to shift my focus to accomplish something as basic as scrolling.

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-02 Thread Terry Wendt
My vote would be for the scroll wheel. I don't like to reach for the mouse if I don't have to, but when you're already using the mouse the scroll wheel is extremely handy. Also, just because the mouse has a scroll wheel it doesn't mean you have to use it. And of course the wheel doubles as a

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-02 Thread Rob Pike
Let me put in a word about the Apple wireless trackpad. I doubt it's got support in Plan 9, although it works from plan9port on the Mac. I am devoted to it now: I use it for scrolling. Right hand for pointing and clicking, left hand for scrolling. Works in acme, sam, etc. plus of course all the

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-02 Thread Anthony Sorace
On Jul 2, 2013, at 22:18 , Rob Pike robp...@gmail.com wrote: I may be the only person in the world who works like this, and is therefore happy to move not one but two hands off the keyboard to use 2-d input devices. This reminds me of Engelbart's Mother of All Demos, with his mouse and the

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-02 Thread Joseph Xu
I usually just lurk here, but I didn't want anybody else to go through 3 different mice like I did (HP 3 button mouse, contour mouse, evoluent mouse) before settling on the lenovo scrollpoint mouse. IMHO it's the best option that's abundantly available, reasonably priced, and comfortable to use.

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-02 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
I may be the only person in the world who works like this, and is therefore happy to move not one but two hands off the keyboard to use 2-d input devices. I used the same setup until I got the Contour Mouse: http://ergo.contour-design.com/ergonomic-mouse/contour-mouse -- Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] How useful is a scroll wheel?

2013-07-02 Thread Steven Stallion
I'm another Lenovo scrollpoint user, though I don't care for it as much as Joseph. I've used the magic mouse on Mac OS for plan9port and drawterm with a couple of actions bound to swipe actions that has worked well too. I've been curious about the contour mouse, though I haven't been curious