On Thu Dec 19 20:54:04 EST 2013, conor.willi...@gmail.com wrote:
ack, thanks...
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:44 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
here you go... effectless...
apologies from Windows Movie Maker
... also on google+
problem diagnosed. mwait
I am having trouble with that link. Is it correct?
Thanks.
Blake
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 5:11 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
On Thu Dec 19 20:54:04 EST 2013, conor.willi...@gmail.com wrote:
ack, thanks...
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:44 AM, erik quanstrom
http://newftp.9atom.org/other/+usbinstamd64.bz2 resolves (www vs. newftp).
d
On 24/12/2013, at 9:44 AM, Blake McBride wrote:
I am having trouble with that link. Is it correct?
Thanks.
Blake
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 5:11 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
On Thu Dec
http://newftp.9atom.org/other/+usbinstamd64.bz2 resolves (www vs. newftp).
i'm sorry should be ftp, though. thanks for the correction!
- erik
Thanks for the new boot trial. I am still getting an error on my HP as
follows:
ehci . qh . timed out (no inter?)
It did boot but I am getting those errors on the screen. Please let me
know if more info would be helpful.
Hope this helps. Thanks!
Blake
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 7:03
On Mon Dec 23 22:14:10 EST 2013, bl...@mcbride.name wrote:
Thanks for the new boot trial. I am still getting an error on my HP as
follows:
ehci . qh . timed out (no inter?)
It did boot but I am getting those errors on the screen. Please let me
know if more info would be
Hope my feedback is a help. I'm ready to try more whenever you are.
Thanks!
Blake
On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 9:30 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
On Mon Dec 23 22:14:10 EST 2013, bl...@mcbride.name wrote:
Thanks for the new boot trial. I am still getting an error on my HP
On Mon Dec 23 22:37:27 EST 2013, bl...@mcbride.name wrote:
Hope my feedback is a help. I'm ready to try more whenever you are.
it is, but also as anyone else is, you are welcome to submit patches
fixing issues. apatch/create issuename email@sub.domain file
- erik
cool man, nice follow up... it's the bell-labs one is code 87... your one
was fine but it crashed... and that was the pic I sent...
don't worry too much about it... gonna get some of my old hardware after
christmas, that I know is supported... I will let you know what happens
then my friend...
On Thu Dec 19 17:36:48 EST 2013, conor.willi...@gmail.com wrote:
cool man, nice follow up... it's the bell-labs one is code 87... your one
was fine but it crashed... and that was the pic I sent...
don't worry too much about it... gonna get some of my old hardware after
christmas, that I
sorry, that went horribly wrong, give me a minute...
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Conor Williams
conor.willi...@gmail.comwrote:
wmv ok?...
they are also on my google+
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:15 PM, Conor Williams conor.willi...@gmail.com
wrote:
and would you believe, i have
here you go... effectless...
apologies from Windows Movie Maker
... also on google+
problem diagnosed. mwait required. perhaps i got a bit exuberant
requiring mwait support. i'll take a look at this but this evening i'm
taking a look at a few bits with the 40gbe driver.
- erik
ack, thanks...
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:44 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
here you go... effectless...
apologies from Windows Movie Maker
... also on google+
problem diagnosed. mwait required. perhaps i got a bit exuberant
requiring mwait support. i'll take a
On Wed Dec 18 04:48:29 EST 2013, conor.willi...@gmail.com wrote:
i'm getting an error code 87 writing usbdisk to my key:
according to the web: The second fix prevents USB Image Tool from
restoring invalid images in device mode. A valid device mode image
has to be multiple of 512. If
Well if you can't compile limbo code with GCC, then hey, the idea is the
immortal virus.
From: dav...@pobox.com
Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2013 14:54:12 +1000
To: 9fans@9fans.net
CC: dav...@pobox.com
Subject: Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9
On 24/10/2013, at 5:57 PM, Keith wrote:
Who here
On 16 December 2013 19:51, tyrrell t tyrre...@live.com wrote:
compile limbo code with GCC
gcc? clang, surely!
I apologize for that statement. I made it before I knew of 9Front and
9Atom. From what I saw, the code hadn't changed in a long time, and
wouldn't boot in any environment I had. All that is false when you take
into account 9Front and 9Atom. I now have 9Front running fine, and, in
fact, I am
On Dec 16, 2013, at 16:47 , Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote:
All that is false when you take into account 9Front and 9Atom.
I run and highly recommend 9atom, but what you'd said is false even
just taking into account the mainline distribution from Bell Labs. It is
updated regularly, but
On Dec 15, 2013, at 4:48 PM, Tristan 9p...@imu.li wrote:
and then there's chuck moore.
I’m still rooting for GreenArrays as there are a few projects
where they chips would actually do well. But now that they’re
accepting bitcoin, who knows, who knows.
-jas
GreenArrays rocks. I still have no idea what to with all the cores. I've
found that writing a go package that generates fun forth is fun.
brucee
On 17/12/2013 11:32 AM, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote:
On Dec 15, 2013, at 4:48 PM, Tristan 9p...@imu.li wrote:
and then there's
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 5:55 AM, trebol trebol55...@aol.com wrote:
. The lack of a
web browser capable of deal with today's madness and the portability
limitation of ape (at least for a ignorant like me) forcesme to deal
with other OS I have to install and maintaining, so the simplicity
If bringing Plan 9 to the masses will bring forth stuff like C++ and Java,
I will fight against it till my dying breath.
Jokes aside. People don't want to use computers. People want to use apps.
Noone will like Plan 9. Where you have to read manuals. They hate that. If
you like Plan 9, and
I, respectfully, disagree. The end purpose of any OS, platform, or program
is to perform some sort of function. That end function is called an app.
An app can be targeted at a programmer or a dumb user. The underlying
environment (including tools) determines the available facilities a
Bottomline is this: People would never use software like that. The ones who
do are already familiar with Plan 9 and weighted pros and cons years ago.
99,9% of the potential users are already on this mailing list and watched
this exact same exchange a dozen times.
2013/12/15 Blake McBride
Couldn't agree more.
On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 2:57 AM, Keith orangecal...@gmail.com wrote:
Who here remembers/knows of the vision for the apple newton? The iPad
realized it when the technology was able and the time was right. Who is to
say the same couldn't be said for 9?
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 11:05:53AM -0600, Blake McBride wrote:
In spite of some really great ideas, I think we'd all agree that Plan-9 has
no real future. On the other hand, I believe that some of the best ideas
Plan-9 brings us can and should be a part of the future. I think the best,
most
All of this talk sound like someone saying: imagine the hurdles of sending
a man to the moon. how can man fly when his weight to strength ratio
is so poor
The only limit is ones imagination and creativity.
Blake
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 12:59 PM, Oleg lego12...@yandex.ru wrote:
On
I have no desire to develope c++ code on plan9 but if there was a simple way to
cross compile c++ applications for plan9 that would be great - firefox being
the obvious one.
This has been done to death, and the closest we ever came to it (IMHO) was
cinap's linuxemu - this allowed you to run the
Linux, android, Windows, and iOS all reached a critical mass in terms of
programmer and end-user apps in order to survive. Plan-9 did not. A
quality web browser on Plan-9 is critical to its usefullness by many. But
this is just one major piece among many.
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 1:18 PM,
But this is just one major piece among many.
Perhaps for you but not for me, the only thing is really missi s a browser.
Very occasuinally I need to edit word documents but this is rare
enough that I don't really care.
-Steve
major piece among many can be more precisely stated as many pieces among
many in order for the platform to achieve a critical mass of users.
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote:
But this is just one major piece among many.
Perhaps for you but not for me,
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 01:13:38PM -0600, Blake McBride wrote:
All of this talk sound like someone saying: imagine the hurdles of sending
a man to the moon. how can man fly when his weight to strength ratio
is so poor
No. This sounds like: why do much of useless work?
To not lose
I, respectfully, disagree. The end purpose of any OS, platform, or program
is to perform some sort of function. That end function is called an app.
the distinction between the os an application is illusionary. redefineing terms
a little bit doesn't clear anything up.
what an os allows one
Linux already has many good things, like a namespaces,
Have you tried using *CLONE_NEWNS* in Linux? I did. It's a joke.
You need to have *CAP_SYS_ADMIN.* And you need to hack back Constants what
has since have been missing from headers. You need to allocate your stack.
Backwards! It's not even
Quoting Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name:
All of this talk sound like someone saying: imagine the hurdles of sending
a man to the moon. how can man fly when his weight to strength ratio
is so poor
The only limit is ones imagination and creativity.
Blake
No. Lack of training, an
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 09:43:27PM +0100, Bence F??bi??n wrote:
Linux already has many good things, like a namespaces,
Have you tried using *CLONE_NEWNS* in Linux? I did. It's a joke.
I didn't say that this things are implemented well :-). I just say that
linux has good things in direction
Ok. Make wonders, then demo them next year on iwp9.
2013/12/15 Oleg lego12...@yandex.ru
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 09:43:27PM +0100, Bence F??bi??n wrote:
Linux already has many good things, like a namespaces,
Have you tried using *CLONE_NEWNS* in Linux? I did. It's a joke.
I didn't say
...Tell that to the people who are maintaining 9front and 9atom.
Oh wait, you just did.
My personal opinion: Plan 9 in its forked form will continue to be
used and worked for a long time. Hell, there are people still using
Amigas for serious computing! I too many times thinking about
bringing
Quoting Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name:
This whole discussion has devolved into a political left vs. right like
debate. Suffice it to say that without a critical mass of users, Bell Labs
and/or Alcatel-Lucent will drop it, it will experience insufficient support
from the user base at large,
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 3:25 PM, Lee Fallat ircsurfe...@gmail.com wrote:
...Tell that to the people who are maintaining 9front and 9atom.
I wasn't aware of those two. Thanks!
On 12/15/2013 4:17 PM, Blake McBride wrote:
This whole discussion has devolved into a political left vs. right like
debate. Suffice it to say that without a critical mass of users, Bell
Labs and/or Alcatel-Lucent will drop it, it will experience insufficient
support from the user base at large,
Suffice it to say that without a critical mass of users, Bell Labs
and/or Alcatel-Lucent will drop it, it will experience insufficient
support from the user base at large, and it will suffer bit-rot until
it won't boot anywhere anymore.
plan 9 is sane enough that one person can maintain it
plan 9 is sane enough that one person can maintain it for their own use.
given the state of other systems that probably doesn't appear possible.
that's probably the most important idea that i've taken from plan 9.
+1.
- erik
On Sun, Dec 15, 2013 at 3:23 PM, Bence Fábián beg...@gmail.com wrote:
This whole discussion has devolved into all the exact same discussions
when someone comes to save us from ourselves.
If you are too lazy to look into the archives at least read this:
http://jfloren.net/b/2012/4/27/0
Yes,
On 24/10/2013, at 5:57 PM, Keith wrote:
Who here remembers/knows of the vision for the apple newton? The iPad
realized it when the technology was able and the time was right. Who is to
say the same couldn't be said for 9?
I suspect that Plan9ers will be as disappointed as Newtonians at the
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