Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-21 Thread Chris McGee
This one might be adapted to work for gitlabs. It only supports read only type commands: clone, checkout, pull. http://9legacy.org/9legacy/tools/git It could be a start. Chris > On Nov 21, 2016, at 10:08 AM, Wes Kussmaul wrote: > > > > On 11/21/2016 03:46 AM, Sigrid

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-21 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On 11/21/2016 03:46 AM, Sigrid Haflinadóttir wrote: Very kind! Where can I download your Plan 9 git client? I'm afraid mine is something of a "stone soup" offering. Perhaps someone can add value to the soup by providing a client. -- Wes Kussmaul The Authenticity Institute 738

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-21 Thread Sigrid Haflinadóttir
How do I register on GitLab though? It tries to show me a captcha, but it seems mothra doesn't support it! What do I do??? On Mon, Nov 21, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 09:19:13PM -0500, Wes Kussmaul wrote: > > > > > > On 11/19/2016 05:27 PM,

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-21 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 09:19:13PM -0500, Wes Kussmaul wrote: > > > On 11/19/2016 05:27 PM, David Arnold wrote: > > On 17 Nov 2016, at 12:18, Kurt H Maier wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 07:55:38PM -0500, Charlie Lin wrote: > > > >>> Also does anyone want to host the source tree in a

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-21 Thread hiro
i give up. muted.

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-20 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On 11/19/2016 05:27 PM, David Arnold wrote: On 17 Nov 2016, at 12:18, Kurt H Maier wrote: On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 07:55:38PM -0500, Charlie Lin wrote: Also does anyone want to host the source tree in a repository? This sounds like a lot of work. Who would undertake this?? GitHub,

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-20 Thread hiro
you have to be careful with these feature requests, some don't really bring plan 9 forward, because they are too generally useful and not plan 9 specific enough. On 11/20/16, Chris McGee wrote: > I like the idea of focusing on the functionality, not specific software, > that

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-20 Thread Chris McGee
I like the idea of focusing on the functionality, not specific software, that could go into a 5th edition. It seems that stepping back and rethinking popular industry trends led to some of the unique and interesting decisions that gave us plan9 in the first place. Here is what I'd like to see

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-20 Thread hiro
On 11/20/16, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: > ...which got shut down earlier this year: That's a lie, nothing has been shut down. Google loves us too much. Plan 9 is not dead either. http://r-36.net/9front/9front-5561.df1dc1ff2475.iso.bz2.torrent

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-19 Thread James A. Robinson
9fans - best served dry.

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-19 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 10:26:36PM -0600, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: > ...which got shut down earlier this year: > > https://opensource.googleblog.com/2015/03/farewell-to-google-code.html?m=1 > This must have come to a shock to their users! I wonder what they did

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-19 Thread Ryan Gonzalez
...which got shut down earlier this year: https://opensource.googleblog.com/2015/03/farewell-to-google-code.html?m=1 -- Ryan (ライアン) Yoko Shimomura > ryo (supercell/EGOIST) > Hiroyuki Sawano >> everyone else http://kirbyfan64.github.io/ On Nov 19, 2016 8:41 PM, "hiro" <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-19 Thread hiro
i have heard good things about google code

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-19 Thread Stanley Lieber
http://fqa.9front.org/fqa0.html#0.2.3 sl

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-19 Thread David Arnold
On 17 Nov 2016, at 12:18, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 07:55:38PM -0500, Charlie Lin wrote: >> Also does anyone want to host the source tree in a repository? > > This sounds like a lot of work. Who would undertake this?? GitHub, GitLab, or BitBucket all provide gratis

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-19 Thread Steve Simon
Almost all of the original plan9 team work for google now. some of them work on Go, a language which has shared ancestry with alef and limbo. there are not maintainers as such, though some people do maintenance and some still develop new features and ports. plan9 is ad hoc. i still think

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-19 Thread Charlie Lin
Any features that should be incorporated into Plan 9? Also, where are the developers? Do they still maintain it? If not, I guess we assume the role of maintainers... On Nov 16, 2016 17:27, "Charlie Lin" wrote: > Any plans for Plan 9 5th edition? > > My desires: >

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-19 Thread Charlie Lin
Add one more: XHCI (USB 3.0) support, because the USB device driver currently does not support it, as stated in the USB man page in section 3 On Nov 16, 2016 17:27, "Charlie Lin" wrote: > Any plans for Plan 9 5th edition? > > My desires: > ISO-compliant C compiler and

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-19 Thread Steve Simon
Cinap, I salute you and the good sense you write. -Steve > On 19 Nov 2016, at 16:57, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: > > calling into firmware code is a big can of worms because firmware is full > of bugs and only works with a small set of the major operating systems that > the firmware

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-19 Thread cinap_lenrek
calling into firmware code is a big can of worms because firmware is full of bugs and only works with a small set of the major operating systems that the firmware authors tested it with. and theres not really an option for doing it from userspace. you need to call it from kernel mode ring zero

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-18 Thread hiro
btw. the turing machine should work in user space of course. why would anyone put that into a kernel?!

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-18 Thread hiro
for 5th edition i wanna see a turing machine where the tape is exported through a file server, it should support jumping to arbitrary times via a ctl file. that way we can solve complex problems very easily from simple rc scripts. for example: echo inf > turing/time/ctl; cat turing/tape On

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-18 Thread Jules Merit
9p @ boot is what I made for bootloader. BIOS, PXE, MBR. Not much of a kernel is needed as one can flash "the" program for cluster nodes. On Nov 18, 2016 11:57 AM, "Charlie Lin" wrote: My idea: implement a user-space filesystem to expose all EFI variables. As for the

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-18 Thread Charlie Lin
My mistake for hastiness: should we implement the filesystem in kernel or user space? On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 2:57 PM, Charlie Lin wrote: > Like efivarfs in the Linux kernel > > On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Charlie Lin > wrote: > >> My idea:

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-18 Thread Charlie Lin
Like efivarfs in the Linux kernel On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Charlie Lin wrote: > My idea: implement a user-space filesystem to expose all EFI variables. > As for the bootloader, any ideas? > > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:30 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote:

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-18 Thread Charlie Lin
My idea: implement a user-space filesystem to expose all EFI variables. As for the bootloader, any ideas? On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 7:30 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 07:21:14PM -0500, Charlie Lin wrote: > > Add one more: EFI support > > Also, can Plan 9 be

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-17 Thread Ori Bernstein
Plan9 doesn't use make. It has a mkfile as well. On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 15:29:58 -0500, Chris McGee wrote: > It doesn't build for me anymore. Fixing the make file seemed non trivial. > > Chris > > > On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:50 PM, Ori Bernstein wrote: > >

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-17 Thread Chris McGee
There's also Gogits. https://github.com/gogits/git I haven't tried it yet. Chris > On Nov 17, 2016, at 11:16 AM, Dave MacFarlane wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Chris McGee wrote: >> For git, there's a wrapper script for github and

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-17 Thread Chris McGee
It doesn't build for me anymore. Fixing the make file seemed non trivial. Chris > On Nov 17, 2016, at 12:50 PM, Ori Bernstein wrote: > > https://bitbucket.org/oridb/libgit2 > > If someone wants to actually turn it into a git client, it at least builds > (or used to). >

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-17 Thread Ori Bernstein
https://bitbucket.org/oridb/libgit2 If someone wants to actually turn it into a git client, it at least builds (or used to). On Thu, 17 Nov 2016 11:16:20 -0500, Dave MacFarlane wrote: > On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Chris McGee wrote: > > For git,

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-17 Thread Dave MacFarlane
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 6:53 PM, Chris McGee wrote: > For git, there's a wrapper script for github and others. But yes, a fuller > featured git would be good. There are some projects trying to do that in Go. > Maybe that'll work someday. I know I started a really half-assed,

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-16 Thread Charlie Lin
I have the ANSI X3.159-1989 (C89), the ISO/IEC 9989:1990 (C90) (ANSI version) and ISO/IEC 9989:1999 (C99). The first one I found it at the National Technical Reports Library. The other two I do not know where I obtained them but I know they are on the Internet, as final standards, not drafts. On

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-16 Thread Stanley Lieber
Charlie there are some things you should know: http://fqa.9front.org/fqa0.html sl

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-16 Thread Charlie Lin
Who has write access to the Wiki so that we can put the ideas in a TODO list? Also does anyone want to host the source tree in a repository? On Nov 16, 2016 7:21 PM, "Charlie Lin" wrote: > Add one more: EFI support > Also, can Plan 9 be booted on Open Firmware? (Used on

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-16 Thread James A. Robinson
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 3:54 PM Chris McGee wrote: > A C compiler that supports the latest spec would be nice as long as it > doesn't sacrifice compile times. I like how quickly the system can > recompile itself. Maybe extend pcc to include new features? > I'll admit to

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-16 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 07:21:14PM -0500, Charlie Lin wrote: > Add one more: EFI support > Also, can Plan 9 be booted on Open Firmware? (Used on at least Sun SPARC > workstations) > > On Nov 16, 2016 5:27 PM, "Charlie Lin" wrote: > > > Any plans for Plan 9 5th edition? >

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-16 Thread Charlie Lin
Add one more: EFI support Also, can Plan 9 be booted on Open Firmware? (Used on at least Sun SPARC workstations) On Nov 16, 2016 5:27 PM, "Charlie Lin" wrote: > Any plans for Plan 9 5th edition? > > My desires: > ISO-compliant C compiler and preprocessor > Port other

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-16 Thread Chris McGee
A C compiler that supports the latest spec would be nice as long as it doesn't sacrifice compile times. I like how quickly the system can recompile itself. Maybe extend pcc to include new features? Go works pretty well and is on its way to be a supported platform. I use it quite frequently on

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-16 Thread Stanley Lieber
Charlie Lin wrote: >Any plans for Plan 9 5th edition? > >My desires: >ISO-compliant C compiler and preprocessor >Port other programming languages (especially Go) to here >Start a source code repository >Port Git, SVN, Mercurial, et cetera to here At the risk of being

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-16 Thread Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen
I think there was a port of gcc at one time. It should be possible to use that to port later versions of gcc. Go is already ported, AFAIK, but I have not yet found an excuse to try it out. Personally, I would really like to have Ada (Gnat) working on Plan9. I have made enough errors in C and C++

[9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

2016-11-16 Thread Charlie Lin
Any plans for Plan 9 5th edition? My desires: ISO-compliant C compiler and preprocessor Port other programming languages (especially Go) to here Start a source code repository Port Git, SVN, Mercurial, et cetera to here