2010/1/26 Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.com:
Not sure how the concept of a line delimited by newlines relates to
moving the cursor up one physical line on the screen.
Working out where to move the cursor to
Still I dare claim that moving a cursor up one visible line has
nothing to do
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.comwrote:
Not sure how the concept of a line delimited by newlines relates to
moving the cursor up one physical line on the screen.
Working out where to move the cursor to
Still I dare claim that moving a cursor up one
nothing to do with the concept of a line delimited by newlines. For
the movement, such delimited lines are completely irrelevant. For the
movement there is no difference whether there is a newline on the
previous visible line or the line was broken due to the width of the
window.
On 23/01/2010 19:01, Rudolf Sykora wrote:
Maybe it only
happens once in 1000 times, but in that 0.1% of the time, my
finger coming down on the return key accidentally hits the up
arrow and the timing just so happens that I rerun the previous
command instead of the one I just typed, sometimes
Thanks Frederik, your and Russ' reply was quite informative.
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Frederik Caulier aed...@gmail.com wrote:
You're welcome to make changes and distribute those via contrib.
To get your own directory under /n/sources/contrib, mail
cont...@plan9.bell-labs.com.
You
1. We use Lf/Rt arrows to move the cursor, don't we? Then use Up/Dn to do
the same kind of task is symmetric, and thus more reasonable.
Wasn't this a concession? That slope is pretty slippery, isn't it?
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On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 4:15 AM, Yi DAI plm@gmail.com wrote:
1. We use Lf/Rt arrows to move the cursor, don't we? Then use Up/Dn to do
the same kind of task is symmetric, and thus more reasonable.
This is the behavior of Acme-SAC, as I recall, so one would think such
a change should be easy
1. We use Lf/Rt arrows to move the cursor, don't we? Then use Up/Dn to do
the same kind of task is symmetric, and thus more reasonable.
you're assuming the task is symmetric; perhaps left/right and up/down
aren't analogous, because x movement in a fixed y (left/right) is not the same
as y
Hi,
I am new to Plan9. This request sounds quite simple/naive. Don't think that
I dislike the Plan9 ways. I enjoy it a lot. But it doesn't mean that it
needs no improvement/fix, right?
OK, here is my suggestion. We shall fix the use of Up/Dn arrows, I mean,
instead of using it to go one page
naah, let's use arrow keys to print arrows; there's nothing more literal,
and thus reasonable, than that
or, or, here's another rationalisation of some other obtuse usage...
nvm
ak
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 1:15 AM, Yi DAI plm@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I am new to Plan9. This request sounds
I agree, but only because PgDown and PgUp do the same as the Down and
Up arrows. Having two pairs of keys doing the same thing on the
keyboard is a waste. On the other hand, I found it easy to get used to
the Plan 9 approach. Its comfortable for me either way, I only think
that this modification
2. We already have PageUp/PageDown keys which do the task of paging up/dn,
and symmetrically, Home/End to move to the first and last page.
I don't have PageUp/PageDown, but I do have arrow keys. Of course,
I'm typing this on a laptop. I'm not saying this decision was made
for that reason, but
why not just hack rio and see how well it works out? put the patch
somewhere for others to try. hacked a new piemenu patch that
allows sub menus (have put the hidden windows in a sub menu so that
the positions of the items in the pie doesnt change depending on the
hidden windows) and compacter
1. We use Lf/Rt arrows to move the cursor, don't we? Then use Up/Dn to do the
same kind of task is symmetric, and thus more reasonable.
In case of being in an editor, editing some text, I'd say your idea
has a point. Also I find it disturbing when instead of moving up one
line the scrolling
On Sat, Jan 23, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.comwrote:
For now, simplicity wins.
Btw., I know the and scripts by R Cox, I use them. Without
something like them, it would be hell. Anyhow, hitting the up/down key
a few times is just quicker.
Agree, :)
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2. We already have PageUp
What I'd appreciate, from the user's point of view, would be some kind
of history mechanism tied to the up/down keys in rio/win (where I
interact with a shell), up arrow bringing up the last command e.g.,
and a normal movement behaviour when editing a 'text' file (no direct
interaction with
Maybe it only
happens once in 1000 times, but in that 0.1% of the time, my
finger coming down on the return key accidentally hits the up
arrow and the timing just so happens that I rerun the previous
command instead of the one I just typed, sometimes with very
unpleasant consqeuences.
This
1. Many of us believe there is no problem to fix. I am quite happy
with up and down for scrolling.
2. The Plan 9 editors have no built-in concept of a line.
(Going to line 10 in sam requires counting ten newlines from the beginning.)
3. Up/Down and PgUp/PgDown move different amounts: 1/3 and
2010/1/23 Russ Cox r...@swtch.com:
1. Many of us believe there is no problem to fix. I am quite happy
with up and down for scrolling.
Well, nobody did say there is anything to be fixed.
I myself am quite happy with it, too.
2. The Plan 9 editors have no built-in concept of a line.
(Going to
2. The Plan 9 editors have no built-in concept of a line.
(Going to line 10 in sam requires counting ten newlines from the beginning.)
Not sure how the concept of a line delimited by newlines relates to
moving the cursor up one physical line on the screen.
That's exactly the point.
You're welcome to make changes and distribute those via contrib.
To get your own directory under /n/sources/contrib, mail
cont...@plan9.bell-labs.com.
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If you insist on using arrow keys to get from one line to another you
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