Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-17 Thread David Leimbach
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:44 AM, ron minnich wrote: > It had to happen: > System and method for accessing SMASH-CLP commands as a web service > United States Patent Application 20080016143 Oh there's absolutely no prior art there ... in the namespace thing. I think I'm going to patent patenti

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-17 Thread ron minnich
It had to happen: System and method for accessing SMASH-CLP commands as a web service United States Patent Application 20080016143 ron

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-17 Thread David Leimbach
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:41 PM, Uriel wrote: > On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > > On 8/13/09, erik quanstrom wrote: > >>> we don't use te*xt for 9p, do we? > >> > >> the difference being, 9p is the transport not > >> the representation of the data and 9p has > >> a fixed

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-14 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 09:42 +0100, roger peppe wrote: > 2009/8/13 Roman Shaposhnik : > > Am I totally missing something or hasn't been the binary RPC > > of that style been dead ever since SUNRPC? Hasn't the eulogy > > been delivered by CORBA? Haven't folks realized that S-exprs > > are really quit

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-14 Thread matt
I have not been able to convince coworkers that filesystem namespaces are the way to go. I think they think it is too hard. *shrug* you can lead a horse... Funny, the problem I usually have is that people think file systems are *too simple*, oh, no data types other than *byte stream*

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-13 Thread Nate S
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 6:01 AM, Uriel wrote: > The software industry is the ultimate recreation of Sisyphus' curse. > > uriel > There's really no point in worrying about that.

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-13 Thread Uriel
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 4:27 PM, David Leimbach wrote: > On 8/13/09, erik quanstrom wrote: >>> we don't use te*xt for 9p, do we? >> >> the difference being, 9p is the transport not >> the representation of the data and 9p has >> a fixed set of messages. >> > > Also 9p aims at file systems pretty o

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-13 Thread roger peppe
2009/8/13 David Leimbach : > On 8/13/09, erik quanstrom wrote: >>> we don't use te*xt for 9p, do we? >> >> the difference being, 9p is the transport not >> the representation of the data and 9p has >> a fixed set of messages. > Also 9p aims at file systems pretty obviously where Thirft is a > gene

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-13 Thread David Leimbach
On 8/13/09, erik quanstrom wrote: >> we don't use te*xt for 9p, do we? > > the difference being, 9p is the transport not > the representation of the data and 9p has > a fixed set of messages. > Also 9p aims at file systems pretty obviously where Thirft is a generic RPC mechanism with stub compile

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-13 Thread erik quanstrom
> we don't use text for 9p, do we? the difference being, 9p is the transport not the representation of the data and 9p has a fixed set of messages. - erik

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-13 Thread Uriel
The software industry is the ultimate recreation of Sisyphus' curse. uriel On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 8:49 AM, Daniel Lyons wrote: > > On Aug 12, 2009, at 9:56 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: > >> if we're going back there, just take me out back and shoot me now. >> i want to remember some progress in com

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-13 Thread roger peppe
2009/8/13 Roman Shaposhnik : > Am I totally missing something or hasn't been the binary RPC > of that style been dead ever since SUNRPC? Hasn't the eulogy > been delivered by CORBA? Haven't folks realized that S-exprs > are really quite good for data serialization in the heterogeneous > environment

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-13 Thread Richard Miller
> it all seems to hark back to the days > mainframers put disk addresses in their data. Never mind disk addresses. We used to put whole channel programs into our data. How else would you implement a fast disk search without bothering the CPU? Just build a self-grepping file ...

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-12 Thread Daniel Lyons
On Aug 12, 2009, at 9:56 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: if we're going back there, just take me out back and shoot me now. i want to remember some progress in computer science. The principal joy I derive from using Plan 9 (and I am quite new) is that it is so well architected. By day I am a web

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Aug 12, 2009, at 8:49 PM, Tim Newsham wrote: Am I totally missing something or hasn't been the binary RPC of that style been dead ever since SUNRPC? Hasn't the eulogy been delivered by CORBA? Haven't folks realized that S-exprs are really quite good for data serialization in the heterogeneous

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-12 Thread erik quanstrom
> Am I totally missing something or hasn't been the binary RPC > of that style been dead ever since SUNRPC? Hasn't the eulogy > been delivered by CORBA? Haven't folks realized that S-exprs > are really quite good for data serialization in the heterogeneous > environments (especially when they are c

Re: [9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-12 Thread Tim Newsham
Am I totally missing something or hasn't been the binary RPC of that style been dead ever since SUNRPC? Hasn't the eulogy been delivered by CORBA? Haven't folks realized that S-exprs are really quite good for data serialization in the heterogeneous environments (especially when they are called JSO

[9fans] Thrift RPC

2009-08-12 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
I've just been enlightened by a friend of mine who explained to me that binary RPC is still alive and kicking: http://incubator.apache.org/thrift/ http://incubator.apache.org/thrift/static/thrift-20070401.pdf and, of course, nothing in CS is complete these days unless there's somebody at