Re: [9fans] bundle //GO.SYSIN DD

2008-07-30 Thread Greg Comeau
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Roman V. Shaposhnik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >ron minnich wrote: >> more useless crap from memory: >> >> the actual correct usage is >> //GO.SYSIN DD * >> >> but of course the * would make things messy. >> >> See this and realize this stuff is still being taught! >

Re: [9fans] bundle //GO.SYSIN DD

2008-07-29 Thread Brantley Coile
Now, if I can figure out how to do the over punch on this keyboard. :) Job control language was more like assembler with very, very simple operations. The problem was that a lot of verby things got put into the operands. DD means data definition. The first symbol, SYSIN in this case, is the

Re: [9fans] bundle //GO.SYSIN DD

2008-07-29 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
> bundles are implemented by here documents, > and the end marker for the document must not appear > in the data vague recollection (1982), it was something like: //SYSIN DD * data records go here /*

Re: [9fans] bundle //GO.SYSIN DD

2008-07-29 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
Charles Forsyth wrote: JCL == Java Control Language? the Job Control Language for System/360 Yeah, I kind of knew that ;-) I was trying to come up with the best joke I could. If this is not it, I have no clue what could be funny about JCL ;-) bundles are implemented by here documents,

Re: [9fans] bundle //GO.SYSIN DD

2008-07-29 Thread Charles Forsyth
>JCL == Java Control Language? the Job Control Language for System/360 if you follow the link i gave you'll see more. bundles are implemented by here documents, and the end marker for the document must not appear in the data, and IBM JCL syntax (even if it were strictly correct) was unlikely to

Re: [9fans] bundle //GO.SYSIN DD

2008-07-29 Thread erik quanstrom
> Job Control Language, I am not sure, but I belive was/is used in batch > proccessing in the IBM Mainframes. if invented today, it would be called cobolscript. - erik

Re: [9fans] bundle //GO.SYSIN DD

2008-07-29 Thread Rodolfo kix Garci­a
Job Control Language, I am not sure, but I belive was/is used in batch proccessing in the IBM Mainframes. Roman V. Shaposhnik escribió: ron minnich wrote: more useless crap from memory: the actual correct usage is //GO.SYSIN DD * but of course the * would make things messy. See this and rea

Re: [9fans] bundle //GO.SYSIN DD

2008-07-29 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
ron minnich wrote: more useless crap from memory: the actual correct usage is //GO.SYSIN DD * but of course the * would make things messy. See this and realize this stuff is still being taught! http://www.coba.unt.edu/itds/courses/bcis3690/bcis3690.ht So... for the dense ones (like myself), w

Re: [9fans] bundle //GO.SYSIN DD

2008-07-28 Thread ron minnich
more useless crap from memory: the actual correct usage is //GO.SYSIN DD * but of course the * would make things messy. See this and realize this stuff is still being taught! http://www.coba.unt.edu/itds/courses/bcis3690/bcis3690.htm ron

Re: [9fans] bundle //GO.SYSIN DD

2008-07-28 Thread Sander van Dijk
Charles, Rob, Greg, Thanks for the context. Greetings, Sander.

Re: [9fans] bundle //GO.SYSIN DD

2008-07-28 Thread Greg Comeau
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Sander van Dijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Does anyone know what the meaning/origin of "//GO.SYSIN DD" in >bundle(1) is? I've seen this on other unix-likes as well, but I >thought I'd ask here since the awareness of historical context seems >to be quite a bit above

Re: [9fans] bundle //GO.SYSIN DD

2008-07-26 Thread Rob Pike
I first saw it used in bundling software created by James Gosling, and liked the (relevant, I might add) joke so much I put it in the Plan 9 version. -rob

Re: [9fans] bundle //GO.SYSIN DD

2008-07-26 Thread Charles Forsyth
see these manual pages: http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/IEA1B640/12.0?DT=2718114500 --- Begin Message --- Hi 9fans, Does anyone know what the meaning/origin of "//GO.SYSIN DD" in bundle(1) is? I've seen this on other unix-likes as well, but I thought I'd ask here si

[9fans] bundle //GO.SYSIN DD

2008-07-26 Thread Sander van Dijk
Hi 9fans, Does anyone know what the meaning/origin of "//GO.SYSIN DD" in bundle(1) is? I've seen this on other unix-likes as well, but I thought I'd ask here since the awareness of historical context seems to be quite a bit above average on this list. Thanks, Sander.