Re: [9fans] carriage returns in 9term and acme

2012-09-17 Thread michaelian ennis
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:57 PM, Christopher Hobbs ch...@altbit.org wrote: Do I need a specific font to render carriage returns properly? This is from acme on p9p: http://cl.ly/image/0H0n2F1s1e0e If that is a win it looks to me like you should be able to fix that with unalias -a.

Re: [9fans] carriage returns in 9term and acme

2012-09-13 Thread Steve Simon
now that you mention it, vt is missing the flyback transformer whine. you should be able to *hear* what's displayed. perhaps it is there an you are no-longer able to hear it? :-) I can no longer hear line rate in the UK (15.625kHz). -Steve

Re: [9fans] carriage returns in 9term and acme

2012-09-13 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Sep 13 06:15:03 EDT 2012, st...@quintile.net wrote: now that you mention it, vt is missing the flyback transformer whine. you should be able to *hear* what's displayed. perhaps it is there an you are no-longer able to hear it? :-) I can no longer hear line rate in the UK

Re: [9fans] carriage returns in 9term and acme

2012-09-12 Thread Matthew Veety
On Sep 12, 2012 12:48 AM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote: my adsl router has a telnet interface that won't dumb down (i.e. be sensible). it is more than tedious watching it try to backspace over stuff and move the cursor about. hey guys, don't do that crap! You can make a telnet

Re: [9fans] carriage returns in 9term and acme

2012-09-12 Thread Bruce Ellis
Brilliant! Write a program because the router is stupid. Anything else you would like me to write while I'm at it? brucee On 13 September 2012 00:30, Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 12, 2012 12:48 AM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote: my adsl router has a telnet interface

Re: [9fans] carriage returns in 9term and acme

2012-09-12 Thread Charles Forsyth
That's a bit elaborate. vt(1) might be easier. On 12 September 2012 15:30, Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote: You can make a telnet client that dumbs down the stream to your terminal. Telnet is trivial to implement.

Re: [9fans] carriage returns in 9term and acme

2012-09-12 Thread Bruce Ellis
Indeed. Though I'm waiting for the trivial implementation that does something imaginative with the batshit practice of overwriting lines using CR without LF. brucee On 13 September 2012 10:02, Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote: That's a bit elaborate. vt(1) might be easier. On

Re: [9fans] carriage returns in 9term and acme

2012-09-12 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
without a LF how will the sprockets pulling the screen up vt(1) get activated? On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed. Though I'm waiting for the trivial implementation that does something imaginative with the batshit practice of overwriting lines

Re: [9fans] carriage returns in 9term and acme

2012-09-12 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Sep 12 20:13:38 EDT 2012, skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: without a LF how will the sprockets pulling the screen up vt(1) get activated? On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed. Though I'm waiting for the trivial implementation that does

Re: [9fans] carriage returns in 9term and acme

2012-09-12 Thread Bruce Ellis
Perhaps decwriter(1) should be on someone's list. Then we can all not-sleep at night. And if things are running too fast the 110 baud switch could be used. brucee On 13 September 2012 10:15, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Wed Sep 12 20:13:38 EDT 2012, skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com

Re: [9fans] carriage returns in 9term and acme

2012-09-12 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Sep 12 20:23:02 EDT 2012, bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps decwriter(1) should be on someone's list. Then we can all not-sleep at night. And if things are running too fast the 110 baud switch could be used. make sure to include the ever-popular LOC switch. just to see if the n00bs

[9fans] carriage returns in 9term and acme

2012-09-11 Thread Christopher Hobbs
Do I need a specific font to render carriage returns properly? This is from acme on p9p: http://cl.ly/image/0H0n2F1s1e0e The same behavior is visible in 9term as well. I have the issue both on p9p and vanilla plan9. Thanks. -- Christopher M. Hobbs http://altbit.org

Re: [9fans] carriage returns in 9term and acme

2012-09-11 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Sep 11 23:59:33 EDT 2012, ch...@altbit.org wrote: Do I need a specific font to render carriage returns properly? This is from acme on p9p: http://cl.ly/image/0H0n2F1s1e0e The same behavior is visible in 9term as well. I have the issue both on p9p and vanilla plan9. could you

Re: [9fans] carriage returns in 9term and acme

2012-09-11 Thread cinap_lenrek
no. changing the font also wont get rid of the ansi escape codes. plan9 text console is not a tty. read the recent (ssh) posts on this mailinglist as it touches the topic of chaning the terminal output to something acme/plan9 can handle. -- cinap

Re: [9fans] carriage returns in 9term and acme

2012-09-11 Thread Bruce Ellis
my adsl router has a telnet interface that won't dumb down (i.e. be sensible). it is more than tedious watching it try to backspace over stuff and move the cursor about. hey guys, don't do that crap! On 12 September 2012 14:06, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: no. changing the font also wont get rid