Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-02-03 Thread Rudolf Sykora
Hello! when I do contrib/pull quanstro/find I get no such replica: find What am I doing wrong?! Thanks R On 22 January 2010 22:54, erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com wrote: And if you like find, write and put it in contrib. contrib/pull quanstro/find - erik

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-02-03 Thread erik quanstrom
On Wed Feb 3 13:16:28 EST 2010, rudolf.syk...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! when I do contrib/pull quanstro/find I get no such replica: find What am I doing wrong?! perhaps you haven't installed it? contrib/install quanstro/find - erik

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-02-03 Thread Rudolf Sykora
ok! contrib/install quanstro/find is the right way... I now got it. thanks R On 3 February 2010 18:58, Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! when I do contrib/pull quanstro/find I get no such replica: find What am I doing wrong?! Thanks R On 22 January 2010 22:54, erik

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-02-03 Thread Rudolf Sykora
On 3 February 2010 19:28, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: On Wed Feb  3 13:16:28 EST 2010, rudolf.syk...@gmail.com wrote: Hello! when I do contrib/pull quanstro/find I get no such replica: find What am I doing wrong?! perhaps you haven't installed it?        

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-24 Thread Tim Newsham
I have never felt the need for tools like these, I use the mouse to edit the text on the screen (changing history), I then double click to the right of the line and click send which resubmits the text. The idea that any text on the screen may be used to form a new command is very powerful, but

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-24 Thread David Leimbach
On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Tim Newsham news...@lava.net wrote: I have never felt the need for tools like these, I use the mouse to edit the text on the screen (changing history), I then double click to the right of the line and click send which resubmits the text. The idea that any

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-23 Thread John Stalker
Does this answer Ron's question as to why one wants things added to the distribution, not just tacked onto any old branched version? ++L No. It doesn't. Here's an attempt to answer that question: As I see it, there are three types of program: 1) Stuff only one person is ever likely to want.

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-23 Thread Rudolf Sykora
On 23 January 2010 11:16, John Stalker stal...@maths.tcd.ie wrote: As I see it, there are three types of program: 1) Stuff only one person is ever likely to want.  No worth contributing. 2) Stuff of interest only to a small group of people.  This belongs in contrib. 3) Stuff of more general

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-23 Thread Steve Simon
Another problem with stuff in contrib is, that their software is not well documented (i.e. no man pages), so that one probably has to read the source in order to be able to use it. s/with stuff/with some stuff/ Btw., I know the and scripts by R Cox, I use them. Without something like

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-23 Thread erik quanstrom
Another problem with stuff in contrib is, that their software is not well documented (i.e. no man pages), so that one probably has to read the source in order to be able to use it. This often forms an obstacle for usage... Being accepted to the main tree brings along good documentation, too,

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-23 Thread Rudolf Sykora
On 23 January 2010 16:24, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: Another problem with stuff in contrib is, that their software is not well documented (i.e. no man pages), so that one probably has to read the source in order to be able to use it. s/with stuff/with some stuff/ Ok, so far I

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-23 Thread Rudolf Sykora
i think you'll get further talking to the author of various packages than inaccurately tarring everyone with the same brush. i've been writing man pages, and i'm clearly not the only one: minooka; 9fs sources ; cd /n/sources/contrib minooka; find -f */root/sys/man | wc    564     564  

[9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread Rudolf Sykora
Hello, I've been wondering. The plan9 'replacement' for the (linux/unix-like) find command, according to the faq, is, in a way, grep foo `{du -a . | awk '{print $2}'} Now I want to find all files containing foo. Is it so that `{ ... } produces the full list first and only afterwards this is

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread maht
search the archives for mails subjected as : breadth first walking and du and find from December 2009 On 22/01/2010 17:29, Rudolf Sykora wrote: Hello, I've been wondering. The plan9 'replacement' for the (linux/unix-like) find command, according to the faq, is, in a way,

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread Robert Raschke
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.comwrote: Hello, I've been wondering. The plan9 'replacement' for the (linux/unix-like) find command, according to the faq, is, in a way, grep foo `{du -a . | awk '{print $2}'} Now I want to find all files containing foo.

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread Rudolf Sykora
2010/1/22 ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com I just do du -a . | grep foo Isn't it that this finds files whose filenames contain foo (like foofoo2.txt)?! I want files inside which there is foo somewhere... Thanks R

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread Rudolf Sykora
2010/1/22 Robert Raschke rtrli...@googlemail.com Have you come across a situation where it doesn't work or it's too slow for your needs? Robby Well. I honestly don't know where the limits are. So generally, how long can the line be? My filesystem has now about 1e6 files, i.e. is of a modest

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread Rudolf Sykora
2010/1/22 maht maht-9f...@maht0x0r.net search the archives for mails subjected as : breadth first walking and du and find from December 2009 Ok, I will. I just thought there is a well-established way. R

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread Corey Thomasson
On 1/22/2010 12:59 PM, Rudolf Sykora wrote: Regardless of me having or not having encountered a problem, building the whole list in advance is not really smart and will lead to problems at some point for sure. Thanks R Assuming that's true, couldn't you do some kind of trick to break it up

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread Jason Catena
If looking through code: du -a . | xargs g pattern [2]/dev/null If looking through all files: du -a . | xargs grep -n foo [2]/dev/null The -n is to be friendly with acme. This presumes you have (at least a cheap knockoff of) xargs.

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread andrey mirtchovski
Building a large list in advance can exhaust main memory on smaller terminals.

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread ron minnich
I found your post a bit confusing then. The little bit of script you posted won't do the job, and the problem is not related to find at all, Anyway, while working with some hugely messy non-plan 9-software, I found I really needed grep -r. See /n/sources/contrib/rminnich/grep ron

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread Joseph Xu
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 01:08:02PM -0500, Corey Thomasson wrote: On 1/22/2010 12:59 PM, Rudolf Sykora wrote: Regardless of me having or not having encountered a problem, building the whole list in advance is not really smart and will lead to problems at some point for sure. Thanks R

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread erik quanstrom
I found your post a bit confusing then. The little bit of script you posted won't do the job, and the problem is not related to find at all, Anyway, while working with some hugely messy non-plan 9-software, I found I really needed grep -r. See /n/sources/contrib/rminnich/grep why not

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:19 AM, Joseph Xu joseph...@gmail.com wrote: Also, the title of this thread is a bit misleading. As far as I know, find doesn't have the option to test for the contents of files, so even with find you'd have to use xargs and grep. if you have find you don't need the

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread Rudolf Sykora
2010/1/22 Joseph Xu joseph...@gmail.com Also, the title of this thread is a bit misleading. As far as I know, find doesn't have the option to test for the contents of files, so even with find you'd have to use xargs and grep. Let me explain then. In Linux I'd use something like find .

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread Rudolf Sykora
2010/1/22 ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com I found your post a bit confusing then. The little bit of script you posted won't do the job, and the problem is not related to find at all The relation to the find command: the linux/unix find command can be producing and using the list at the same

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread ron minnich
now I understand your question. I just tested this and it worked fine. du -a / | awk '{print grep something $2}' |/bin/rc ron

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 10:40 AM, Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.com wrote: Why do you think grep foo `{du -a . | awk '{print $2}'} doesn't do the job? Apart from potentially reporting one file several times... Because my brain is only partially on today! ron

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread geoff
These two scripts should be enough to do what's needed: ; cat /bin/xargs #!/bin/rc # xargs cmd [arg ...] - emulate Unix xargs # only needed for arg lists longer than TSTKSIZ*BY2PG # (100*4096 = 400K on typical PC kernels). rfork ne ramfs split -n 500 -f /tmp/x for (f in /tmp/x*)

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread Rudolf Sykora
why not just use a russ' g from p9p? Ok. Maybe. So now I have several propositions: - g by R Cox - sth similar to g by E Quanstrom - grep -r by R Minnich (actually, this really exists in linux, I didn't know...) - search the archives for mails subjected as : breadth first walking, du and find,

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread John Stalker
On unix systems I tend to use find a lot, and in ways that aren't easy to replicate with du. Anything even slightly complicated, say combining -prune, -type, -newer, and -exec, is nearly impossible to do in a correct and efficient way without find, even if you have an xargs. I'm not sure I

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread John Stalker
I just tested this and it worked fine. du -a / | awk '{print grep something $2}' |/bin/rc ron Try touch 'x;reboot' and then see if it still works fine. I don't think I like your version on a system with users I don't trust completely. -- John Stalker School of Mathematics Trinity College

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread erik quanstrom
du -a / | awk '{print grep something $2}' |/bin/rc ron Try touch 'x;reboot' and then see if it still works fine. I don't think I like your version on a system with users I don't trust completely. sneaky. but it won't work. ; touch 'x;reboot' ; du -a . 0 './x;reboot' 0

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread Jason Catena
Recursively list only files; grep them with g to get full path, filename, and line number; protect against John's semicolon trick by quoting each file. walk -f | sed 's,^,g '^$1^' '',;s,$,'',' | rc walk apparently completely omits from its output files with a single-quote in their names, and

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread John Stalker
sneaky. but it won't work. ; touch 'x;reboot' ; du -a . 0 './x;reboot' 0 . - erik It worked under 9vx on my Mac. I didn't test on real hardware. -- John Stalker School of Mathematics Trinity College Dublin tel +353 1 896 1983 fax +353 1 896 2282

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Jan 22 15:24:49 EST 2010, stal...@maths.tcd.ie wrote: sneaky. but it won't work. ; touch 'x;reboot' ; du -a . 0 './x;reboot' 0 . - erik It worked under 9vx on my Mac. I didn't test on real hardware. this rebooted your 9vx? sounds wrong to me. i thought the

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:16 PM, Jason Catena jason.cat...@gmail.com wrote: Recursively list only files; grep them with g to get full path, filename, and line number; protect against John's semicolon trick by quoting each file. john's semicolon trick is fun but as pointed out doesn't work.

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread ron minnich
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 12:23 PM, John Stalker stal...@maths.tcd.ie wrote: sneaky.  but it won't work. ; touch 'x;reboot' ; du -a . 0     './x;reboot' 0     . - erik It worked under 9vx on my Mac.  I didn't test on real hardware. interesting. OK, my idea sucks due to a lack of

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread John Stalker
this rebooted your 9vx? sounds wrong to me. It did, or rather it tried to. Of course, /bin/reboot doesn't work in 9vx. I tested it before I posted. -- John Stalker School of Mathematics Trinity College Dublin tel +353 1 896 1983 fax +353 1 896 2282

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread Steve Simon
the only time I ever wanted this kind of feature is for grepping through sourcecode. ron's modified grep is now installed on my boxes; there is a precident (diff -r). -Steve

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread John Stalker
interesting. OK, my idea sucks due to a lack of foresight on my part :-) Your idea is fine. I do similar things all the time, but using awk or sed or things like that to produce shell scripts is hard to get right. Harder than getting a find command right, which was my point. I'll grant that

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread Tim Newsham
the only time I ever wanted this kind of feature is for grepping through sourcecode. ron's modified grep is now installed on my boxes; there is a precident (diff -r). If you're like me, you often have a bunch of object files in your source tree and you usually want to enumerate files, filter

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread erik quanstrom
And if you like find, write and put it in contrib. contrib/pull quanstro/find - erik

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread John Stalker
And if you like find, write and put it in contrib. contrib/pull quanstro/find - erik Thanks -- John Stalker School of Mathematics Trinity College Dublin tel +353 1 896 1983 fax +353 1 896 2282

Re: [9fans] find command reloaded

2010-01-22 Thread lucio
And if you like find, write and put it in contrib. contrib/pull quanstro/find - erik Thanks -- John Stalker Does this answer Ron's question as to why one wants things added to the distribution, not just tacked onto any old branched version? ++L