Re: [9fans] interesting qemu problem

2010-03-28 Thread Georg Lehner
ron minnich wrote: [..] I don't see why venti has gotten so memory hungry, this seems new behavior. I realize I can twist the knobs myself but geez, this is a 4 GB disk -- why does it think it needs nearly 400 MB RSS to deal with it? ron Please note that quite a lot of installation problems

Re: [9fans] interesting qemu problem

2010-03-18 Thread blstuart
I should mention that another person here tried qemu recently and commented that it was dog slow as well. Something changed in qemu I think and it's affecting plan 9. That was a very old qemu image and it was peppy in the old days. I wonder if it's a 0.11 thing or maybe a Linux thing. I've

[9fans] interesting qemu problem

2010-03-16 Thread ron minnich
I'm now running an upgraded qemu: QEMU PC emulator version 0.11.0 (qemu-kvm-0.11.0), Copyright (c) 2003-2008 Fabrice Bellard And have noticed that an old image I use for qemu is going astray. Same kernel as it has been for quite some time, but the load is pegged at about 2500 at all times. I'm

Re: [9fans] interesting qemu problem

2010-03-16 Thread ron minnich
I was wrong. I built a new kernel from sources and performance is still very bad, with a load of 2500 minimum. Also, venti, on this little machine, is a bit hungry for memory. venti...2010/0316 20:31:06 venti: conf.../boot/venti: mem 1,048,576 bcmem 140,753,578 icmem 211,130,368...httpd

Re: [9fans] interesting qemu problem

2010-03-16 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:07 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: This image formerly ran in 256M, now requires 512M, because venti footprint is 140+211+211 ... wait, how does it ever fit in 512 anyway. swap?  this would answer two questions. I should mention that another person

Re: [9fans] interesting qemu problem

2010-03-16 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:04 PM, ron minnich wrote: I was wrong. I built a new kernel from sources and performance is still very bad, with a load of 2500 minimum. Also, venti, on this little machine, is a bit hungry for memory. venti...2010/0316 20:31:06 venti: conf.../boot/venti: mem 1,048,576

Re: [9fans] interesting qemu problem

2010-03-16 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: You could configure venti to be less aggressive with its use of memory, but that would likely hurt performance. Running venti inside qemu is silly.  If you really want venti for your vm, run venti on the host and

Re: [9fans] interesting qemu problem

2010-03-16 Thread erik quanstrom
I tend to disagree. If I'm running qemu it is because I want to simulate a whole-machine environment. If I don't need that simulation, I'll go back to 9vx. seems that keeping up with qemu is at least as hard as keeping up with real hardware. - erik

Re: [9fans] interesting qemu problem

2010-03-16 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:52 PM, ron minnich wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: You could configure venti to be less aggressive with its use of memory, but that would likely hurt performance. Running venti inside qemu is silly. If you really

Re: [9fans] interesting qemu problem

2010-03-16 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but Plan 9's a cluster environment, nothing wrong with the venti server being elsewhere (in fact, thats kind of expected) -- unless of course you are debugging the venti server. I'm using qemu to debug a