Re: [9fans] octopus paper

2012-03-02 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
Given the lag in publication, this system is no longer under development (though we are still using it), but here's a paper about the Octopus. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S016412121200043X It asks me for $31.50 to download the paper. -- Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] octopus paper

2012-03-02 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
WoW! I hate them. It seems my university is subscribed and I could browse it freely… I'll talk to you off list. On Mar 2, 2012, at 11:24 AM, Aram Hăvărneanu wrote: Given the lag in publication, this system is no longer under development (though we are still using it), but here's a paper about

Re: [9fans] octopus paper

2012-03-02 Thread Charles Forsyth
Welcome to the world of Elsevier, Springer and Wiley. On 2 March 2012 10:29, Francisco J Ballesteros n...@lsub.org wrote: WoW! I hate them. It seems my university is subscribed and I could browse it freely… I'll talk to you off list.

Re: [9fans] octopus paper

2012-03-02 Thread Jeff Sickel
The next time I visit London will include a walking tour of the place that started all of this mess. Sadly, I think the price to join the information club has been increasing. On Mar 2, 2012, at 6:11 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote: Welcome to the world of Elsevier, Springer and Wiley. On 2 March

Re: [9fans] octopus paper

2012-03-02 Thread Nicolas Bercher
On 02/03/2012 13:11, Charles Forsyth wrote: Welcome to the world of Elsevier, Springer and Wiley. On 2 March 2012 10:29, Francisco J Ballesterosn...@lsub.org wrote: WoW! I hate them. It seems my university is subscribed and I could browse it freely… I'll talk to you off list. Here at

Re: [9fans] octopus paper

2012-03-02 Thread John Floren
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 8:23 AM, Nicolas Bercher nberc...@yahoo.fr wrote: On 02/03/2012 13:11, Charles Forsyth wrote: Welcome to the world of Elsevier, Springer and Wiley. On 2 March 2012 10:29, Francisco J Ballesterosn...@lsub.org  wrote: WoW! I hate them. It seems my university is

Re: [9fans] octopus paper

2012-03-02 Thread Nemo
I'm trying to clear that out, we'll see. On Mar 2, 2012, at 5:27 PM, John Floren wrote: Unless Elsevier is even more evil that I thought, Nemo should still be able to post a PDF on lsub.org. Now, if they're really evil, they got exclusive rights... John

Re: [9fans] octopus paper

2012-03-02 Thread Jeff Sickel
Tread carefully. A recent copyright case did not go well for the author of a paper. On Mar 2, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Nemo wrote: I'm trying to clear that out, we'll see. On Mar 2, 2012, at 5:27 PM, John Floren wrote: Unless Elsevier is even more evil that I thought, Nemo should still be

Re: [9fans] octopus paper

2012-03-02 Thread Nemo
Ok. They said explicitly that I can post pre-prints of the paper at web sites. http://lsub.org/ls/export/ojss.ps On Mar 2, 2012, at 5:32 PM, Nemo wrote: I'm trying to clear that out, we'll see. On Mar 2, 2012, at 5:27 PM, John Floren wrote: Unless Elsevier is even more evil that I

Re: [9fans] octopus paper

2012-03-02 Thread tlaronde
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 05:23:26PM +0100, Nicolas Bercher wrote: Here at CNRS, you are starting to struggle against this crazy system: 1) we pay to submit papers 2) we pay to read papers from others 3) we have to pay more if we want our papers to be freely accessible 4) we are not

Re: [9fans] octopus paper

2012-03-02 Thread Jack Johnson
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:37 AM, Francisco J Ballesteros n...@lsub.org wrote: Given the lag in publication, this system is no longer under development (though we are still using it), but here's a paper about the Octopus. Hey Francisco, First, I really like the ideas in Octopus. I think it was

Re: [9fans] octopus paper

2012-03-02 Thread Nemo
I have plans for something related to it in the future, but nix goes before that and it will still take a long time to get there. So, for me, it's just the system I use for development (working on nix, mostly). On Mar 2, 2012, at 7:47 PM, Jack Johnson wrote: On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:37 AM,