Re: [9fans] /n/sources/patch/spamhaus

2008-05-13 Thread Charles Forsyth
The solution for people on dynamic addresses (typically with some generic and non-matching PTR record, though I haven't checked yours) is likely to relay out through your ISP's mail server. because of the way the DNS is put together, PTR records cannot be relied upon. ownership of the DNS

[9fans] pic and art

2008-05-13 Thread Steve Simon
Hi, Who is the keeper of the best port of art(1) to the 4th edition? I have seen Kenji san's and Andreys, anyone else done any work on it since then (the port is still not quite finished IMHO). Does anyone have a stock of pic macros for processing flow diagrams? -Steve

Re: [9fans] bootsetup problem

2008-05-13 Thread Charles Forsyth
Have you tried an installation (not an update!) with the actual CD-edition ( I think it is the third edition) of plan9? a third edition CD would be quite old and quite different as regards both the file system implementation (kfs instead of fossil/venti) and more important disk/fdisk and

Re: [9fans] bootsetup problem

2008-05-13 Thread bblochl
Martin Neubauer schrieb: I started out with a small installation on a spare partition of a laptop to get the hang of the system. Later I set up a standalone file server I can boot a terminal from (usually said laptop.) This can be regarded as the normal mode of operation. The installation never

Re: [9fans] ext2srv

2008-05-13 Thread cej
Does it still suffer from the 2GB size problem, or s it solved already? Thanks, ++pac On 5/12/08, Iruata Souza [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 9fans, I have hacked ext2srv to support symlinks so that now, when resolving a name, a walk will present the client with the file pointed to by the

Re: [9fans] ext2srv

2008-05-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:32 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does it still suffer from the 2GB size problem, or s it solved already? Thanks, sincerely, I added symlinks because of fgb's (and others) needs. I can take a look on the 2GB issue too if that would help someone. iru

Re: [9fans] ext2srv

2008-05-13 Thread cej
would help me much until I get rid of linux completely. I have dirs with big photos (~ 300MB each) so I had to split them into subdirs to hadle them via ext2srv. i also tried tofiddle with the source, but I gave up. Many thanks, ++pac. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on

Re: [9fans] /n/sources/patch/spamhaus

2008-05-13 Thread erik quanstrom
The solution for people on dynamic addresses (typically with some generic and non-matching PTR record, though I haven't checked yours) is likely to relay out through your ISP's mail server. because of the way the DNS is put together, PTR records cannot be relied upon. ownership of the DNS

Re: [9fans] /n/sources/patch/spamhaus

2008-05-13 Thread a
// rfc 2317 allows arbitrary cidrs to be delegated. so far, // i've always been able to get reverse mappings set up // for static addresses. I think you've been lucky, or have been dealing with better ISPs. Apart from my home ADSL line, I share a commercial SDSL with some folks. We've got a /123

Re: [9fans] /n/sources/patch/spamhaus

2008-05-13 Thread Wes Kussmaul
Charles Forsyth wrote: this is all reminiscent of the nonsense of RFC1413 I think that people are finally ready to accept the fact that packets on the outdoor highway do not disclose the intentions of their senders and that they contain no meaningful information about the identity of their

Re: [9fans] /n/sources/patch/spamhaus

2008-05-13 Thread Russ Cox
the problem is that spf only validates that the sender is an allowed sender. this is ineffective against backscatter attacks. i've gotten as many as 500 backscatter spam in 4 hrs. so this is a significant issue for me. So you're blocking mail from forsyth in order to block spam bounces from

Re: [9fans] /n/sources/patch/spamhaus

2008-05-13 Thread erik quanstrom
So you're blocking mail from forsyth in order to block spam bounces from ? I already told you how I solved this when it happened to me, and it has been 100% effective your solution for backscatter is a good one. but how does it do against non backscatter? this is also a significant

Re: [9fans] /n/sources/patch/spamhaus

2008-05-13 Thread Anant Narayanan
On 13-May-08, at 4:17 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: what's a better idea. having an extra 6400 spam emails is the problem. how to i solve this without using spamhaus? I use Greylisting [1], and it's been really effective. No false positives (so far), and 0 to 2 spam messages a day. All this

Re: [9fans] /n/sources/patch/spamhaus

2008-05-13 Thread erik quanstrom
I use Greylisting [1], and it's been really effective. No false positives (so far), and 0 to 2 spam messages a day. All this for a mild ~15 minute delay on genuine emails (but only for the first time). sites like plan9.bell-labs.com tend not resend email with prec. bulk even when given a

Re: [9fans] ext2srv

2008-05-13 Thread Iruata Souza
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 9:07 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: would help me much until I get rid of linux completely. I have dirs with big photos (~ 300MB each) so I had to split them into subdirs to hadle them via ext2srv. i also tried tofiddle with the source, but I gave up. since i already

Re: [9fans] /n/sources/patch/spamhaus

2008-05-13 Thread Russ Cox
your solution for backscatter is a good one. but how does it do against non backscatter? this is also a significant problem. generally 100 messages per day for me. content-based filtering works fine for me. am i an idiot for objecting to this? i never said you were an idiot. i said

Re: [9fans] /n/sources/patch/spamhaus

2008-05-13 Thread erik quanstrom
your solution for backscatter is a good one. but how does it do against non backscatter? this is also a significant problem. generally 100 messages per day for me. content-based filtering works fine for me. how do you maintain content-based filtering without spending time on it on a

[9fans] P9P on Solaris

2008-05-13 Thread Brian L. Stuart
What compiler has been successfully used to build p9p on Solaris? I've got a Solaris 9 install and have tried the gcc 2.95 from the extras cd and Sun Studio 11 and both have heartburn on the anonymous unions and structs used in hfs.h in libdiskfs. Thanks, BLS

[9fans] running in AMDs simnow

2008-05-13 Thread ron minnich
I'm trying to get plan 9 to boot in AMDs simnow as part of tracking a weird problem. There's some weird issue between simnow and 9load. Here is what happens, on floppy or iso: initial probe, to find plan9.ini... I then see 661,504 reads (in the case of the ISO) or few number of reads (in the

Re: [9fans] ms problem

2008-05-13 Thread Martin Neubauer
yesterday(1) * Pietro Gagliardi ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: I just found out that .RS and .RE no longer work - they too keep the indent. Again, please revert to the older version.

Re: [9fans] ms problem

2008-05-13 Thread Pietro Gagliardi
Everyone that uses .P1 has to do yesterday then. On May 13, 2008, at 4:59 PM, erik quanstrom wrote: yesterday(1) yesterday(1) all my 9trouble seemed so vlong away ... - erik

[9fans] some x86 Segment descriptor experiments

2008-05-13 Thread cinap_lenrek
Hi, I'm trying to implement TLS support for linuxemu. TLS on linux works as following: here is a syscall called set_thread_area() where a struct is passed containing something like a segment descriptor that is stored for the process and is switched in the gdt when the process gets resumed for

Re: [9fans] fs(3) not bound at boot

2008-05-13 Thread a
Sigh. This seems to be working for me now. I rebuilt my kernels after a pull (of nothing that looked relevant) and it just worked as expected. I'd love to know what was going on, but I doubt I'll spend any more time on it as each attempt involves rebooting my file server, which is more disruptive

Re: [9fans] running in AMDs simnow

2008-05-13 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mount /srv/9660 /n/9660 /dev/sdC0/data This one lost me completely. /dev/sdC0/data? That's an iso on your system? ron

Re: [9fans] running in AMDs simnow

2008-05-13 Thread erik quanstrom
So yes, with the help of Erik I managed to bake a bootable iso for this ibm eserver 325 I have here, which seems to behave in a pretty similar way to the one you describe here (look for the thread plan 9 on an ibm eserver 325). I'm attaching the 9load I used for that iso, which incidentally

Re: [9fans] some x86 Segment descriptor experiments

2008-05-13 Thread ron minnich
it seems reasonable on first glance. What's the stack barf look like? ron

Re: [9fans] running in AMDs simnow

2008-05-13 Thread lejatorn
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 03:59:45PM -0700, ron minnich wrote: On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 7:13 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: mount /srv/9660 /n/9660 /dev/sdC0/data This one lost me completely. /dev/sdC0/data? That's an iso on your system? Yeah sorry, I suspected it would not be obvious.

Re: [9fans] running in AMDs simnow

2008-05-13 Thread lejatorn
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 07:10:20PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: So yes, with the help of Erik I managed to bake a bootable iso for this ibm eserver 325 I have here, which seems to behave in a pretty similar way to the one you describe here (look for the thread plan 9 on an ibm eserver

Re: [9fans] running in AMDs simnow

2008-05-13 Thread erik quanstrom
sorry if it sounded that way, I did not meant that. It's just that as you once told me yourself, the fixes you make sometimes never end up in the default distribution, either because you forget or because as you point out below, it goes into contrib. What is the rationale between stuff

Re: [9fans] some x86 Segment descriptor experiments

2008-05-13 Thread cinap_lenrek
arrrg... i found the problem... of course! Plan9 *does* restore/reload the segment registers! It does it still in kernel mode. So if a segment register is set (from usermode) with a selector pointing to my TLS descriptor, and that descriptor gets changed to {0, 0} again, forkret() restores/reloads

Re: [9fans] P9P on Solaris

2008-05-13 Thread Russ Cox
What compiler has been successfully used to build p9p on Solaris? I've got a Solaris 9 install and have tried the gcc 2.95 from the extras cd and Sun Studio 11 and both have heartburn on the anonymous unions and structs used in hfs.h in libdiskfs. I'm sorry about that. There aren't

Re: [9fans] /n/sources/patch/spamhaus

2008-05-13 Thread Nate S
On Tue, May 13, 2008 at 4:07 PM, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: at work we have a barracuda box which seems to be completely content based. it's false positive rate is significant. so you actually need to skim up to a hundred questionable messages per week. more trouble than