http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html
Programming languages are just tools, after all.
Considering that Plan 9 has only two inherent languages,
and its users often push for work to be done in only those,
what is the Plan 9 perspective of languages and tools in
relation to each other?
Is it in
One serious question today would be: what's LISP _really_ good for?
http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html
On Sat, Sep 05, 2009 at 07:22:37AM -0400, Akshat Kumar wrote:
Programming languages are just tools, after all.
Considering that Plan 9 has only two inherent languages,
and its users often push for work to be done in only those,
what is the Plan 9 perspective of languages and tools in
Akshat said:
// Considering that Plan 9 has only two inherent languages...
I'm curious which two you meant. Most of the code running on my Plan 9
installations is written in either C or rc. For code I've written running on it,
Limbo is about as high. And of course there's a little assembly down
Let me be a little pedantic.
The 9fans know given the haphazard nature of a hobbyist's knowledge I am
extremely bad at this, but then let me give it a try.
FYI, it's been Lisp for a while.
As long as Britannica and Merriam-Webster call it LISP I don't think
calling it LISP would be
One serious question today would be: what's LISP _really_ good for?
http://www.paulgraham.com/avg.html
I could do a similar thing:
http://www.schnada.de/quotes/contempt.html#struetics
... and leave you wondering (or not). I won't.
Paul Graham's essay/article consists of a success story,
I forgot this: Graham basically accuses programmers who don't find LISP as
attractive (or powerful, as he puts it) as he does of living on lower
planes of existence from which the heavens above of functional (or only
LISP) programming seem incomprehensible. He writes/speaks persuasively,
he's
general-purpose language good for system programming--you seem to call
that being a good OS language--
I take this part back. I mixed your post with Jason Catena's for a moment.
--On Saturday, September 05, 2009 15:14 +0100 Eris Discordia
eris.discor...@gmail.com wrote:
Let me be a little
Oh, yay, a Xah Lee quote, he's surely a trusted source on all things
Lisp. Didja read his page about hiring a prostitute in Las Vegas? Or
the one about how he lives in a car in the Bay Area because he's too
crazy to get hired?
Patience, brother. Search Paul Graham on that page and let your mind
i'm not a lisp fan. but it's discouraging to see
such lack of substance as the following (collected
from a few posts):
Oh, yay, a Xah Lee quote, he's surely a trusted source on all things
Lisp. Didja read his page about hiring a prostitute in Las Vegas? Or
the one about how he lives in a car
Eris,
Using your theories, please explain why Lisp and Plan 9 both hover
around the same level of popularity (i.e., not very, but not dead
either).
—
Daniel Lyons
Hi folks:
I have an older Dell OptiPlex GX1 (600MHz PIII) that I am having
trouble installing Plan 9 onto. I am using a bootable CD ISO of Plan
9 that I downloaded last night so things should be current.
The system has two 130GB hard drives installed. Everything works
under Debian Linux.
I forgot this: Graham basically accuses programmers who don't find LISP
as attractive (or powerful, as he puts it) as he does of living on
lower planes of existence from which the heavens above of functional
(or only LISP) programming seem incomprehensible. He writes/speaks
persuasively, he's
I have an older Dell OptiPlex GX1 (600MHz PIII) that I am having
trouble installing Plan 9 onto. I am using a bootable CD ISO of Plan
9 that I downloaded last night so things should be current.
The system has two 130GB hard drives installed. Everything works
under Debian Linux.
would
I wasn't, in this case at least, implying something not backed by firm
evidence. Conditional branching embodied in actual computers goes back to
Plankalkuel on Z3. The idea is as early as Babbage. It comes as natural
even to first-timers, following much more difficult conception of a notion
so you're saying that the table in this section is wrong?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer#History_of_computing
if it is and you can back it up, i sugeest you fix wikipedia.
It isn't wrong.
The exact wording from The First Computers: History and Architectures
goes:
The instruction
The instruction most conspicuously absent from the instruction set of the
Z3 is conditional branching. [...] but there is no straightforward way to
implement conditional sequences of instructions. However, we will show
later than conditional branching can be simulated on this machine.
i
Hailed Eris:
I was alluding to the expressive power of C versus LISP considered with
respect to the primitives available on one's computing platform and
primitives in which solutions to one's problems are best expressed.
I think one of the reasons there exists little languages, and cliches
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Jason Catena jason.cat...@gmail.com wrote:
Hailed Eris:
I was alluding to the expressive power of C versus LISP considered with
respect to the primitives available on one's computing platform and
primitives in which solutions to one's problems are best
On Sat, Sep 5, 2009 at 2:26 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
i'm not a lisp fan. but it's discouraging to see
such lack of substance as the following (collected
from a few posts):
Oh, yay, a Xah Lee quote, he's surely a trusted source on all things
Lisp. Didja read his page
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