Re: [9fans] Plan 9 rejected from GSoC 2012

2012-03-20 Thread Paschke Christoph
In 3 weeks I need work together with Italians because of a machine control and the optimization system behind. It's already difficult to work together and you can imagine English is already a good way communication works. Although, in real, it is still difficult to understand the italian english

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 rejected from GSoC 2012

2012-03-20 Thread Bruce Ellis
http://www.chunder.com/text/dead.html On 20 March 2012 19:25, Paschke Christoph c.pasc...@me.com wrote: In 3 weeks I need work together with Italians because of a machine control and the optimization system behind. It's already difficult to work together and you can imagine English is

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 rejected from GSoC 2012

2012-03-20 Thread faif
Τη Δευτέρα, 19 Μαρτίου 2012 3:50:35 μ.μ. UTC+1, ο χρήστης erik quanstrom έγραψε: i'm not sure i understand the concept of reincarnation. on the one hand, hardware by its nature can lock your machine up solid and there's nothing the os can do about it. so how do you test driver

[9fans] Unable to boot from CD

2012-03-20 Thread Sauparna
Previously I had a working Plan9 (3rd. Ed.) installation on my desktop, which had Pentium 4 processor. I am unable to boot from the same Plan9 CD, and even the 4th. Ed. CD, on my laptop. I get this error message: PBS1... Plan9 from Bell Labs ELCR: 0C98 pcirouting: South bridge 8086, 2919 not

Re: [9fans] Unable to boot from CD

2012-03-20 Thread erik quanstrom
From the above, the problem is not an installation that worked before, and does not anymore, since this is not a Pentium IV anymore but a Core 2/Xeon. Since it loads the floppy image, El Torito is supported. Now, this is the exploration of the mass storage that seems to pose problems.

Re: [9fans] Unable to boot from CD

2012-03-20 Thread cinap_lenrek
9load doesnt detect your storage devices. you could try plan9front cd (http://r-36.net/9front/) wich uses a different bootloader wich uses bios to access storage devices (so it doesnt need a custom driver) wich will probably gets a kernel loaded. if the kernel also doesnt detect the ide/sata

Re: [9fans] Regarding 9p based protocols message framing

2012-03-20 Thread Yaroslav
Why was I puzzled: because as a non Plan9 user / developer, I usually think of the underlaying transport technology (be it sockets or 9p) as a stream of bytes without explicit framing. As I understand, 9P itself is designed to operate on top of a message-oriented transport; however, it has

Re: [9fans] Regarding 9p based protocols message framing

2012-03-20 Thread Dan Cross
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:42 AM, Yaroslav yari...@gmail.com wrote:  Why was I puzzled: because as a non Plan9 user / developer, I usually think of the underlaying transport technology (be it sockets or 9p) as a stream of bytes without explicit framing. As I understand, 9P itself is designed

Re: [9fans] nice terminal...

2012-03-20 Thread Nicolas Bercher
Does anyone know about the Plan 9 support status for the Raspberry Pi ? Nicolas

Re: [9fans] nice terminal...

2012-03-20 Thread Calvin Morrison
I was just thinking about this while drinking my coffee. A few perspective problems : 1. Broadcom drivers that are more locked down than Mr. Manson. 2. The boot process is insanely weird. It's boots by bootstrapping the GPU or something crazy. 3. No cd-rom drive to do a CD install. Probably

Re: [9fans] nice terminal...

2012-03-20 Thread Charles Forsyth
You have to have got one first. My delivery note says May and the blog said the initial batch had a part wrong (stopping ether from working). On 20 March 2012 12:33, Nicolas Bercher nberc...@yahoo.fr wrote: Does anyone know about the Plan 9 support status for the Raspberry Pi ?

Re: [9fans] nice terminal...

2012-03-20 Thread Richard Miller
My delivery note says May You're lucky. I'm on the waiting list to be allowed onto the pre-order queue.

Re: [9fans] nice terminal...

2012-03-20 Thread Nicolas Bercher
Le 20/03/2012 15:10, Charles Forsyth a écrit : You have to have got one first. My delivery note says May and the blog said the initial batch had a part wrong (stopping ether from working). OK, I'll wait. For sure this device will stimulate some Plan 9 users! Nicolas

Re: [9fans] nice terminal...

2012-03-20 Thread erik quanstrom
On Tue Mar 20 10:20:16 EDT 2012, 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: My delivery note says May You're lucky. I'm on the waiting list to be allowed onto the pre-order queue. h you're lucky. ... probablly the little jailies' pet, aren't we? what i wouldn't give to be on the waiting list to be

Re: [9fans] Regarding 9p based protocols message framing

2012-03-20 Thread erik quanstrom
Perhaps initially: over an IP network, 9P used to run over IL. still does, including on the system i'm sending this from. - erik

Re: [9fans] nice terminal...

2012-03-20 Thread David Leimbach
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 7:19 AM, Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: My delivery note says May You're lucky. I'm on the waiting list to be allowed onto the pre-order queue. Luxury! There were four of us living in a brown paper bag in a septic tank... (sorry couldn't resist)

Re: [9fans] Regarding 9p based protocols message framing

2012-03-20 Thread Ciprian Dorin Craciun
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 14:32, Dan Cross cro...@gmail.com wrote: 9P itself is not a stream-oriented protocol, nor is it what one would generally call, 'transport technology.' I would beg to differ on this subject... Because a lot of tools in the Plan9 environment expose their facilities

Re: [9fans] nice terminal...

2012-03-20 Thread Stephen Wiley
I've been thinking about this for a while as well (I don't have one yet though... so I haven't gone far beyond thinking) On Mar 20, 2012, at 1:32 PM, Calvin Morrison wrote: 1. Broadcom drivers that are more locked down than Mr. Manson. There is a RiscOS port, perhaps that has something...

Re: [9fans] Regarding 9p based protocols message framing

2012-03-20 Thread Dan Cross
On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun ciprian.crac...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 20, 2012 at 14:32, Dan Cross cro...@gmail.com wrote: 9P itself is not a stream-oriented protocol, nor is it what one would generally call, 'transport technology.'    I would beg to differ on

Re: [9fans] Regarding 9p based protocols message framing

2012-03-20 Thread erik quanstrom
   I would beg to differ on this subject... Because a lot of tools in the Plan9 environment expose their facilities as 9p file systems, but expose other semantics than that of generic files -- i.e. a contiguous stream of bytes from start to EOF -- like for example RPC semantic in case of

[9fans] known working wifi cards

2012-03-20 Thread Stanley Lieber
Reading into the record. Please update the list (or the wiki) if you've verified any other working wifi cards. Please, firsthand experience only. -sl PCI: none known PCI Express: none known MiniPCI: Actiontec 800MIP (branded Lucent WaveLAN) MiniPCI Express: none known PCMCIA: Wavelan

Re: [9fans] known working wifi cards

2012-03-20 Thread Tristan
Reading into the record. Please update the list (or the wiki) if you've verified any other working wifi cards. Please, firsthand experience only. USB: Marvell 88W8388 aka olpc (probably not what you're looking for) enjoy, tristan -- All original matter is hereby placed immediately under the

[9fans] wifi interface

2012-03-20 Thread Tristan
USB: Marvell 88W8388 aka olpc (probably not what you're looking for) oh, and on that note: said wireless driver is much nicer now (though far from perfect or complete) and still in contrib/tristan/libertas.tgz. the wavelan driver uses the ctl file in the connection (`{cat clone}/ctl) to manage