Re: [9fans] Quick question on stopping a process that waits for IO

2008-11-06 Thread Nathaniel W Filardo
On Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 09:18:47PM -0800, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: > On Nov 5, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Nathaniel W Filardo wrote: >> Would this suffice? > > It sounds like exactly the kind of thing I was talking about. OK. To reiterate what I said earlier, these kinds of "soonstop"-ed processes may stil

Re: [9fans] Quick question on stopping a process that waits for IO

2008-11-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Nov 4, 2008, at 4:34 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: So the question remains -- what is the proper way of putting a process that waits for an IO into a Stopped state? i don't think it's possible without changing the kernel. but it's a good question, why does it work this way? obviously one doesn

Re: [9fans] Quick question on stopping a process that waits for IO

2008-11-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Nov 5, 2008, at 4:55 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: I'm asking is -- "dear kernel, please don't advance this process even if you otherwise can". All I need is a frozen state so that I can not so easy on a multiprocessor. (unless you turn all but one processor off.) Hm. May be its getting lat

Re: [9fans] Quick question on stopping a process that waits for IO

2008-11-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Nov 5, 2008, at 9:40 PM, Nathaniel W Filardo wrote: Would this suffice? It sounds like exactly the kind of thing I was talking about. Did I miss something obvious? And this would be a million dollar question here. I don't think you did (although Eric constantly warns us of dragons), but

Re: [9fans] photos of iwp9

2008-11-06 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Nov 6, 2008, at 3:01 AM, Kernel Panic wrote: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/cinap_lenrek/photos/iwp9.2008/dscn0213.jpg This one is truly awesome! Thanks, Roman.

Re: [9fans] Poorly created user

2008-11-06 Thread akumar
Ah, So, upon the suggestions of Erik and Steve, I took up the task of just trying to regain this user's dignity (permissions, recognition). As hostowner, I copied /adm/users to a personal DIR, removed the line for that user, then went into fscons, and ran users -r /path/to/copied/adm/users un

Re: [9fans] Poorly created user

2008-11-06 Thread Steve Simon
You can delete arbitary files using the fossil console commands clri to delete the files first, tne directories, and then flchk to reclaim the storage, see fossilcons(8). Having said this I would perservere with trying to restore the username as Erik describes. check the contents of /adm/users whi

Re: [9fans] Poorly created user

2008-11-06 Thread akumar
Thank you for taking the time to run such a trial test. What do you think would be the best course of action following fsys main open -A ? Delete all files owned by user and remove user from the FS user table? Then perhaps recreate the user? Or instead, just look around for what might be "amiss"

Re: [9fans] Poorly created user

2008-11-06 Thread erik quanstrom
On Thu Nov 6 15:49:03 EST 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Erik, > > Taking your advice, I tried connecting to fscons and running: > uname user user > however, the fs reports: > uname: uname 'user' already exists > is this what you meant to try in your previous post, or have I > misunderstood

Re: [9fans] on a slightly more fun note

2008-11-06 Thread Federico G. Benavento
congrats! -- Federico G. Benavento

[9fans] Poorly created user

2008-11-06 Thread akumar
Erik, Taking your advice, I tried connecting to fscons and running: uname user user however, the fs reports: uname: uname 'user' already exists is this what you meant to try in your previous post, or have I misunderstood? Thanks

Re: [9fans] on a slightly more fun note

2008-11-06 Thread erik quanstrom
>> not yet. coraid is responsible for ~4k cores >> running plan 9 right now. of course the maximum >> concentration in one place is jus a few hundred. > > Were does this show up in their product line? sr appliances. - erik

Re: [9fans] on a slightly more fun note

2008-11-06 Thread Roman V. Shaposhnik
On Thu, 2008-11-06 at 06:54 -0500, erik quanstrom wrote: > > So how many cores is that for each member of the > > Plan 9 community? :-) On a slightly more serious > > note, would it be terribly naive to guess that > > there would be more cores running Plan 9 in that > > machine than there are thr

Re: [9fans] Poorly created user

2008-11-06 Thread erik quanstrom
> d-rwxr-xr-x M 2225 (user) (user) 0 Oct 28 13:15 /cron/user > (notice theparentheses) the klammeraffen mean that the user has been removed from the users' table in the fs. you'll need to add the user back to proceede. - erik

[9fans] Poorly created user

2008-11-06 Thread akumar
Hello, A while back I created a user by the normal procedure of adding it to the FS and running auth/changeuser, then logging in as the user and running /sys/lib/newuser. However, it turns out that all the files created for the user had awkward permissions on them -- specifically, the group and us

Re: [9fans] kerberos for plan9

2008-11-06 Thread hiro
I got this one yesterday: http://www.discogs.com/release/1477544 It's well done. I didn't find anyone who had stuff from Kerberos though. Sorry for digging this out once more. Perhaps a russsian will appreciate this some day:) On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 11:49 AM, hiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On W

Re: [9fans] Problems with adding users.

2008-11-06 Thread Nolan Hamilton
Thanks for the help guys, everything works now.

Re: [9fans] Problems with adding users.

2008-11-06 Thread Steve Simon
> Cant create temp file: blah blah blah > permission denied sounds like you have no $home/tmp, but /sys/lib/newuser will have created one for you so it doesn't make sense. check if $home/tmp exists and is writable by you. -Steve

Re: [9fans] broken smtpd

2008-11-06 Thread erik quanstrom
>> Is this phenomenon specific to me? > > No, it isn't: > > term% ps|grep Broken > none9172:08 42:50 264K Broken smtpd impressive! i don't see this problem, but i have implemented some fairly agressive spam control. perhaps this shows up after i tend to hang up. (it is

Re: [9fans] Problems with adding users.

2008-11-06 Thread erik quanstrom
> Hi, I am trying to add a user. I run "Con -l /srv/fscons" at the > prompt I add a user using uname. I add the user to sys, and then > login with my new user I do run /sys/lib/newuser also. I try to run > acme though and it says: "Cant create temp file: blah blah blah > permission denied" How c

Re: [9fans] on a slightly more fun note

2008-11-06 Thread erik quanstrom
> So how many cores is that for each member of the > Plan 9 community? :-) On a slightly more serious > note, would it be terribly naive to guess that > there would be more cores running Plan 9 in that > machine than there are throughout the rest of the > world? not yet. coraid is responsible f

[9fans] photos of iwp9

2008-11-06 Thread Kernel Panic
I put the photos in my contrib on sources yesterday. The http file listing on sources seems broken currently... so here are the urls: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/cinap_lenrek/photos/iwp9.2008/dscn0181.jpg http://plan9.bell-labs.com/sources/contrib/cinap_lenrek/photos/iwp9.2008/ds

Re: [9fans] broken smtpd

2008-11-06 Thread Richard Miller
> Is this phenomenon specific to me? No, it isn't: term% ps|grep Broken none9172:08 42:50 264K Broken smtpd

[9fans] Problems with adding users.

2008-11-06 Thread Nolan Hamilton
Hi, I am trying to add a user. I run "Con -l /srv/fscons" at the prompt I add a user using uname. I add the user to sys, and then login with my new user I do run /sys/lib/newuser also. I try to run acme though and it says: "Cant create temp file: blah blah blah permission denied" How can I chang

Re: [9fans] on a slightly more fun note

2008-11-06 Thread Nathaniel W Filardo
On Wed, Nov 05, 2008 at 05:53:25PM -0800, ron minnich wrote: > Just booted Plan 9 on a 1024+16 node BG/P this week. . > > All credit to jmk, ericvh, and charles for this fantastic test run and > the existence of this new kernel. Just chiming in to say very nicely done, congratulations, && thanks f

Re: [9fans] on a slightly more fun note

2008-11-06 Thread C H Forsyth
>Any plan to run it for end users? "Sole purpose of visit" as someone supposedly quipped in answer to the question on the US entry form: "Is it your intention to overthrow the government of the United States?" (that response is variously attributed, although both Evelyn Waugh and Gilbert Harding

Re: [9fans] mmap and shared libraries

2008-11-06 Thread Bruce Ellis
Wow what a lively thread. Lots of good information (thanks Ron, Rob et al) and behavioural commentary (thanks Skip) but it seems to be of no avail. As I'm the only one awake in Volos at 10:30am and I have 40 cafes with WiFi to myself I'll waste bandwidth and tell a little story with no stated conc

Re: [9fans] on a slightly more fun note

2008-11-06 Thread Francisco J Ballesteros
That's great. Any plan to run it for end users? On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 9:07 AM, Bruce Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's nearly as many cores as I have gates! Very good indeed - just > don't say "Hooter's Girls" to Mr Van Hensbergen. > > brucee > > On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:53 AM, ron minni

Re: [9fans] on a slightly more fun note

2008-11-06 Thread Bruce Ellis
That's nearly as many cores as I have gates! Very good indeed - just don't say "Hooter's Girls" to Mr Van Hensbergen. brucee On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 3:53 AM, ron minnich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Just booted Plan 9 on a 1024+16 node BG/P this week. . > > All credit to jmk, ericvh, and charles f