[9fans] Plan9 on Mac with Parallels Desktop 4.0 for Mac

2008-12-22 Thread Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
hi, has anyone managed to install plan9 successfully on Mac using Parallels Desktop 4.0 for Mac? i tried in two ways: - i had a temporary plan9 installation on Parallels Desktop 3.0 for Mac. After upgrade to 4.0, i tried to convert this one and use it on Parallels version 4.0. it displays the

Re: [9fans] 9pfuse and O_APPEND

2008-12-22 Thread roger peppe
On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 2:45 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: okay, so you're using DMAPPEND like sbrk(2). how do you avoid clients caring about the address of this new hunk of memory?^u clients caring about the offset of this hunk of the file? that is, the same problem malloc

Re: [9fans] graphics scaling

2008-12-22 Thread Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
Hi Richard/pac, thanks for the quick response and info. i will try it out as soon as i am able to use some plan9. currently my old plan9 machine is almost dead and i am fighting with VMs to install plan9. luckily i also bought a copy of vmware fusion today. so i am trying with it too. thanks

Re: [9fans] graphics scaling

2008-12-22 Thread Steve Simon
Re: fusion would 9vx running under linux be an interesting option? re: resample If you are experimenting with interploation a zoneplate is one of the best test signals to check your work on, though its interpretation can be tricky. /n/sources/contrib/steve/zoneplate.c

Re: [9fans] rio startup fails in VMWare Fusion 2.0.0

2008-12-22 Thread Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
hi all, not sure if this discussion is continued elsewhere, but i thought i will share what i found. i just installed vmware fusion 2.0.1 (128865), downloaded new plan9 CD image (that probably geoff made yesterday and the one that probably has richard's vmware vga fix) and tried to install plan9.

Re: [9fans] graphics scaling

2008-12-22 Thread erik quanstrom
with dual pci express buses which allow symetric access to the frame buffer which sidestep this problem (see discussion on 9fans reference? pci express is symmetric. if there's asymmetry between r and w it's not because of bus symmetry. - erik

Re: [9fans] plan9

2008-12-22 Thread erik quanstrom
- get plan9/inferno run on soekris net5501 board i thought plan 9 ran just fine on those. - erik

Re: [9fans] Plan9 on Mac with Parallels Desktop 4.0 for Mac

2008-12-22 Thread Richard Miller
- next, i created a new VM and tried to install from plan9 CD image. During CD boot, like the above, it displays the line on NE2000 ethernet port and then crashes. I had the same experience. I managed to run a networkless Plan 9 under Parallels 4 by disabling the ethernet driver in both

Re: [9fans] sata working on cd kernel, but not after install?

2008-12-22 Thread Richard Miller
I'm still having the same two problems after pulling geoff's updates: in vmware ( fusion ) i get the aux/vga: vgactlw: linear 0x3e8 0x0: unknown vmware id 0740 Exactly which kernel are you booting under vmware? The latest kernels from sources have a fix for this (at least 9pcf does -

Re: [9fans] rio startup fails in VMWare Fusion 2.0.0

2008-12-22 Thread Richard Miller
vgasize: 640x480x8, monitor: xga - this combo works vgasize: 1024x768x8, monitor: xga - this combo works i tried 1280x1024x8 and 1280x1024(?!). it seems to hang. no luck with vesa also. is anyone able to get any better resolution with vmware fusion in mac (or parallels for mac 4.0, if it

Re: [9fans] plan9

2008-12-22 Thread Charles Forsyth
for plan 9, for the older 4501 i think i had to eliminate some cga references in config and mkfile. use a mkfile without cga.$O (this would be better done by specifying cga in the other config files, since it's optional). i used an earlier verson of the pcsoe config file below, but had to add

Re: [9fans] plan9

2008-12-22 Thread erik quanstrom
plan9.ini as well with *norealmode=1 i can't remember what i did for plan9.ini. i don't know if this causes trouble with memory sizing. or of the 5501 supports e820 (mine do), but i've used real820.s in /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/9loadaoe (or 9boot) in 16bit mode so bios calls are a bit less

Re: [9fans] rio startup fails in VMWare Fusion 2.0.0

2008-12-22 Thread Jeff Sickel
On Dec 22, 2008, at 8:39 AM, Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: vgasize: 640x480x8, monitor: xga - this combo works vgasize: 1024x768x8, monitor: xga - this combo works i tried 1280x1024x8 and 1280x1024(?!). it seems to hang. no luck with vesa also. is anyone able to get any better

[9fans] Changelogs Patches?

2008-12-22 Thread Venkatesh Srinivas
Hi, The contrib index mentions that daily changelogs for Plan 9 are in sources/extra/changes, but those haven't been updated since early 2007. Is there any preferred way to get changelogs / diffs these days? Also, in sources/patch, there are patches neither in applied/ or sorry/. Are these

Re: [9fans] sata working on cd kernel, but not after install?

2008-12-22 Thread Ben Calvert
On Dec 22, 2008, at 5:22 AM, Richard Miller wrote: I'm still having the same two problems after pulling geoff's updates: in vmware ( fusion ) i get the aux/vga: vgactlw: linear 0x3e8 0x0: unknown vmware id 0740 Exactly which kernel are you booting under vmware? The latest kernels from

Re: [9fans] graphics scaling

2008-12-22 Thread Charles Forsyth
i've found it quite solid under Ubuntu 8.04, and i'm running an old version of 9vx. the last time i said that i'd had no trouble it promptly blew up, but apart from that i haven't had any trouble, once it starts up. i haven't used drawterm in ages, except on windows.---BeginMessage--- would 9vx

Re: [9fans] Changelogs Patches?

2008-12-22 Thread Charles Forsyth
Is there any preferred way to get changelogs / diffs these days? i use 9fs sources diff /whatever /n/sources/plan9/whatever and after a pull yesterday -d ... when i'm especially curious or anxious. it probably wouldn't hurt to have a DMEXCL+DMAPPEND file (!) maintained by the command that

Re: [9fans] graphics scaling

2008-12-22 Thread erik quanstrom
reliable 9vx hang acid -ltruss /bin/cal acid: new() acid: truss() - erik

Re: [9fans] Changelogs Patches?

2008-12-22 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2008/12/22 Venkatesh Srinivas m...@acm.jhu.edu: Hi, The contrib index mentions that daily changelogs for Plan 9 are in sources/extra/changes, but those haven't been updated since early 2007. Is there any preferred way to get changelogs / diffs these days? I used to maintain the changelogs,

Re: [9fans] graphics scaling

2008-12-22 Thread Brian L. Stuart
i've found it quite solid under Ubuntu 8.04, and i'm running an old version of 9vx. the last time i said that i'd had no trouble it promptly blew up, but apart from that i haven't had any trouble, once it starts up. i haven't used drawterm in ages, except on windows. The main issue I had

Re: [9fans] graphics scaling

2008-12-22 Thread Paul Lalonde
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Have the scrolling tags been ported into the mainline p9 yet? That's the main reason I still spend most of my time in P9P and SAC. Paul (who hasn't yet managed to get his hands on an Intel PCIe graphics adapter of any sort - frustr. It's as

Re: [9fans] graphics scaling

2008-12-22 Thread Brian L. Stuart
Have the scrolling tags been ported into the mainline p9 yet? That's the main reason I still spend most of my time in P9P and SAC. Don't know. The install I did in my local partition was from an image from at least this summer, maybe older. I'm at work at the moment and can't check to see

Re: [9fans] graphics scaling

2008-12-22 Thread erik quanstrom
Have the scrolling tags been ported into the mainline p9 yet? That's the main reason I still spend most of my time in P9P and SAC. Don't know. The install I did in my local partition was from an image from at least this summer, maybe older. I'm at work at the moment and can't check to

Re: [9fans] 9vx

2008-12-22 Thread Russ Cox
run gdb on the 9vx binary and type list *0x80123123 russ

Re: [9fans] graphics scaling

2008-12-22 Thread Russ Cox
not ported. i'm glad that that hasn't been ported back. i find multi-line tags annoying 10 times for each time they are useful. is this an abstract assertion or have you actually tried them? russ

Re: [9fans] graphics scaling

2008-12-22 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Dec 22 13:57:35 EST 2008, r...@swtch.com wrote: not ported. i'm glad that that hasn't been ported back. i find multi-line tags annoying 10 times for each time they are useful. is this an abstract assertion or have you actually tried them? russ i've used them for quite some

[9fans] 9vx wrong up? or wrong pgrp?

2008-12-22 Thread erik quanstrom
any ideas appreciated. when running plan 9 ip stack under 9vx, i get a curious situation where the mount table goes missing, but only for the namec called from etherbind. it seems that up-pg isn't right. the pgrpid is 2 for the call from namec but 3 for the call from the shell. both seem wrong.

Re: [9fans] 9vx wrong up? or wrong pgrp?

2008-12-22 Thread erik quanstrom
sorry to reply to myself, but the up in the kernel belongs to an *io*, not the calling process. - erik

Re: [9fans] 9vx wrong up? or wrong pgrp?

2008-12-22 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
2008/12/22 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: sorry to reply to myself, but the up in the kernel belongs to an *io*, not the calling process. That's weird, the up in the kernel that I was seeing belonged to *init*. If you go further down into: walk error 2: does not exist You will see the

Re: [9fans] 9vx wrong up? or wrong pgrp?

2008-12-22 Thread erik quanstrom
cf. the email about the comment that fixes this. - erik

Re: [9fans] rio startup fails in VMWare Fusion 2.0.0

2008-12-22 Thread Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
hi richard, i tried various combinations: 1280x1024 1280x800 1152x768 1920x1200 (i tried combinations like with x8, x24, x32 (not x16 i think)). nothing seems to help. 1920x1200 looked like it turned the graphics mode on but then it crashed. btw, what was your plan9.ini config? did it look

Re: [9fans] rio startup fails in VMWare Fusion 2.0.0

2008-12-22 Thread Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan
hi jeff, i agree. somewhere down the line, i will probably stick to this method. but my problem is i use inferno and acme in inferno a lot. to the extent i tested so far, drawterm, 9vx are all so slow in updating inferno screen (i think it becomes a matter of screen area updates all the time

[9fans] Native TCP/IP stack in 9vx working

2008-12-22 Thread Devon H. O'Dell
Hey everyone, Over the past few days, Erik Quanstrom has been helping debug issues with the native IP stack in 9vx. He figured out some crazy issues with gcc wanting to return negative values for signed modulo comparisons -- this combined with a stupid oversight has got IP working. Erik says he's

Re: [9fans] rio startup fails in VMWare Fusion 2.0.0

2008-12-22 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
if you setup dedicated machines for cpu+auth and fs, then booting a pc kernel on a vmware and booting from fs works very well as a term. hi jeff, i agree. somewhere down the line, i will probably stick to this method. but my problem is i use inferno and acme in inferno a lot. to the extent

Re: [9fans] Changelogs Patches?

2008-12-22 Thread Uriel
It is pretty much a question of it being a totally backwards way of doing things, with one set of people doing the changes, and another set of people guessing the meaning of the changes writing the changelog. (This is claimed to be due to the first set of people not having the time to writing

Re: [9fans] Changelogs Patches?

2008-12-22 Thread Nathaniel W Filardo
Hi, The contrib index mentions that daily changelogs for Plan 9 are in sources/extra/changes, but those haven't been updated since early 2007. Is there any preferred way to get changelogs / diffs these days? Relatedly, is there a better way to mirror the development history of Plan 9 than

Re: [9fans] Native TCP/IP stack in 9vx working

2008-12-22 Thread erik quanstrom
On Mon Dec 22 23:00:59 EST 2008, devon.od...@gmail.com wrote: he's moving IL in tomorrow -- at this point, that shouldn't be a huge deal. it's working. i guess it's half an hour early. - erik

[9fans] 9vx il has slight speed advantage

2008-12-22 Thread erik quanstrom
first from il ; time cat gs/dev/null 0.00u 0.00s 9.70rcat gs next via tcp ; time cat /386/bin/gs/dev/null 0.00u 0.00s 40.27r cat /386/bin/gs - erik