Re: [9fans] sendfd() on native Plan 9?

2008-12-30 Thread Nathaniel W Filardo
On Sat, Dec 27, 2008 at 12:21:49PM -0800, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: True. But why that should be a problem in practice? If the process belongs to a user X that means user X has control over it. Thus the behavior of accidental consumption of an fd that was meant to be consumed by some other

Re: [9fans] Changelogs Patches?

2008-12-30 Thread Uriel
Knowing *who* made the change is often even more useful than the change comment. uriel On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 2:48 AM, Charles Forsyth fors...@terzarima.net wrote: i've rarely found per-change histories to be any more useful than most other comments, i'm afraid. And that meant that math

Re: [9fans] Changelogs Patches?

2008-12-30 Thread C H Forsyth
Knowing *who* made the change is often even more useful than the change comment. yes. i use ls -lm on our trees, but that might not work on less direct things like sources.

Re: [9fans] sendfd() on native Plan 9?

2008-12-30 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 2:22 AM, Nathaniel W Filardo n...@cs.jhu.edu wrote: If #s can be virtualized -- ala srv^2 or devcapsrv or something else -- then the system is one step closer to supporting the above. There is some machinery for sealing off #p that I do not recall in full detail but

Re: [9fans] sendfd() on native Plan 9?

2008-12-30 Thread erik quanstrom
If one buys this argument, then namespaces are not valid security constructs they are not security constructs at all. though ftpd and a few friends use rfork(2) to create a pgrp that doesn't allow attaches. very simple and effictive, but probablly not strong security. either, and Plan 9

Re: [9fans] Changelogs Patches?

2008-12-30 Thread Uriel
On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 4:06 PM, C H Forsyth fors...@vitanuova.com wrote: Knowing *who* made the change is often even more useful than the change comment. yes. i use ls -lm on our trees, but that might not work on less direct things like sources. It would work if the development trees were

Re: [9fans] Changelogs Patches?

2008-12-30 Thread Noah Evans
http://code.google.com/hosting/createProject On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 12:31 PM, Uriel urie...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 30, 2008 at 4:06 PM, C H Forsyth fors...@vitanuova.com wrote: Knowing *who* made the change is often even more useful than the change comment. yes. i use ls -lm on our