starting with something like /sys/src/cmd/nfs.c or ramfs.c
and a setup like this:
mount /stuff /n/node0
import node1 /stuff /n/node1
import node2 /stuff /n/node2
fscreate and fsopen would create or open /n/node[012]/file and fswrite
would write to /n/node[012]/file. a go
i have no problem with pragmatism.
brucee
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 11:28 AM, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 11:22 +1100, Bruce Ellis wrote:
>> get over it. it works fine on my found machine. and my $300 eeePC.
>> what exactly doesn't work?
>
> no argument there. my automechani
> (240 MB actual storage in Venti). (With no sharing whatsoever, this would
> be approx. 310 GB.) I would like to re-archive this with the Rabin
> fingerprinting vac for comparison.
by "no sharing" do you mean if each file tree were stored in a
seperate fs, or do you mean that the original fs +
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 02:45:43PM -0800, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 17:28 -0500, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > what leads you to beleve that that amount of sharing will be
> > significant?
>
> Just a hunch so far. I don't have hard data to prove anything.
> On the other hand,
In the Plan 9 spirit, how about serving them over 9P? That and an
Acme interface completes the picture.
Then I can properly conduct searches too.
no more wasting time with unresourceful web browsers
ak
> it works fine on my found machine. and my $300 eeePC.
9vx (built on another computer, and off of an external HDD) works just
fine in eeePC. But what are you using for a Plan 9 environment on
that thing?
in case your milkshake's better than mine
ak
On Wed, 2009-02-11 at 11:22 +1100, Bruce Ellis wrote:
> get over it. it works fine on my found machine. and my $300 eeePC.
> what exactly doesn't work?
no argument there. my automechanic still uses MS DOS 5.0. works
great for him. i tried to tell him about plan9, but strangely
enough he also told
get over it. it works fine on my found machine. and my $300 eeePC.
what exactly doesn't work?
brucee
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 17:28 -0500, erik quanstrom wrote:
>> what leads you to beleve that that amount of sharing will be
>> significa
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 17:28 -0500, erik quanstrom wrote:
> what leads you to beleve that that amount of sharing will be
> significant?
Just a hunch so far. I don't have hard data to prove anything.
On the other hand, I'd be surprised if massive updates (not pulling
in a couple of months) didn't be
> > what extra work would that be, and if there is extra work, could you explain
> > why this would be a problem?
>
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding of how pull works is
> that it pulls files in their entirety (IOW: cp /n/sources/... /)
> which means that shared blocks get copied as
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 17:10 -0500, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 04:32:18PM -0500, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > > i'm still not following why replica won't work? getting in underneath
> > > the fs seems to require some extra justification and it seems to require
> > > some very lo
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 04:22:42PM -0500, Nathaniel W Filardo wrote:
> > since 9fs never stopped working, why could you not just export (with
> > httpd) from your machine a -C mount of sources? then the robots hammer
> > you but since you're cached, you don't hammer sources?
>
> Sorry to rain on y
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 04:32:18PM -0500, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > i'm still not following why replica won't work? getting in underneath
> > the fs seems to require some extra justification and it seems to require
> > some very low-level modifications. and yet the file interface provides
> > w
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 17:13 -0500, Nathaniel W Filardo wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:51:47PM -0800, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote:
> > since replica requires some (albeit automatic) periodic work on the
> > server end it means that there's one more thing for bell lab folks
> > to care about and m
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:51:47PM -0800, Roman V. Shaposhnik wrote:
> since replica requires some (albeit automatic) periodic work on the
> server end it means that there's one more thing for bell lab folks
> to care about and maintain. that said, a brand new Venti proxy or
> what not will probabl
Hi all,
I am ashamed to say that I still haven't sorted out my sources mirror,
however it is mostly in place, perhaps another week or so.
This uses replica/pull to synch with the labs nightly where a
replica/scan is run run (also nightly). The mirror copies everything
on sources /plan9 /contrib a
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 04:32:18PM -0500, erik quanstrom wrote:
> i'm still not following why replica won't work? getting in underneath
> the fs seems to require some extra justification and it seems to require
> some very low-level modifications. and yet the file interface provides
> what i thin
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 16:55 -0500, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > > i'm still not following why replica won't work? getting in underneath
> > > the fs seems to require some extra justification and it seems to require
> > > some very low-level modifications. and yet the file interface provides
> > > wh
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 09:06 +0100, Giacomo Tesio wrote:
> So far it seems that there are no ready-made 9P-based
> solutions available for what
> you have in mind. At least I don't know of any.
>
> In any solution available there are costs to pay (economical or
> temporary o
> > i'm still not following why replica won't work? getting in underneath
> > the fs seems to require some extra justification and it seems to require
> > some very low-level modifications. and yet the file interface provides
> > what i think one would need for such a project. what is wrong with
On Tue, 2009-02-10 at 16:32 -0500, erik quanstrom wrote:
> > I again propose that sources should be mirrorable via venti (and venti/copy
> > -f); the nightly snapshots would be walked with "auth/none vac" into a
> > publically readable venti (venti/ro proxy) and the scores published (and
> > signed
is it too much for a syntetic filesystem 9P based? or too few?
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 5:37 PM, ron minnich wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Giacomo Tesio wrote:
>
> > If a sincronization system for the grid nodes (or a sintetic filesystem
> > providing access to the grid and replic
> I again propose that sources should be mirrorable via venti (and venti/copy
> -f); the nightly snapshots would be walked with "auth/none vac" into a
> publically readable venti (venti/ro proxy) and the scores published (and
> signed). In order to make this more palatable, it may be worth develop
Hello
I should update wiki:
http://9grid.es/sources
It is not updated, as i stopped the mirroring process when all this
started in november 2008 more or less.
slds.
gabi
El 10/02/2009, a las 17:02, matt escribió:
iirc sources is down because there was some heavy scraping going on
that
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 01:15:11PM -0800, ron minnich wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:10 PM, John Barham wrote:
> >> I've turned it back on and will watch to see if our web server gets
> >> swamped by it. This interface should not be used to mirror the
> >> contents of sources.
> >
> > What in
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 1:10 PM, John Barham wrote:
>> I've turned it back on and will watch to see if our web server gets
>> swamped by it. This interface should not be used to mirror the
>> contents of sources.
>
> What interface should be used to used to mirror sources? 9fs?
> replica? More
> I've turned it back on and will watch to see if our web server gets
> swamped by it. This interface should not be used to mirror the
> contents of sources.
What interface should be used to used to mirror sources? 9fs?
replica? More specifically, if I wanted to set up my own HTTP mirror
of sou
+2 agreed. As you can see I screwed up the last mail. I find it
difficult to speak portuguese and write in english at the same time,
but I'm learning - not whining. Shoot me.
brucee
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Wes Kussmaul wrote:
> Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
>
>>> "Can someone look into the web
Thank you geoff. You are one of the good guys. And I've never heard you whine.
Now, back to work for brucee and Tiger.
brucee
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:49 AM, wrote:
> I've turned it back on and will watch to see if our web server gets
> swamped by it. This interface should not be used to mir
I've turned it back on and will watch to see if our web server gets
swamped by it. This interface should not be used to mirror the
contents of sources.
Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
"Can someone look into the web interface?" would have worked.
Agreed
+1 Agreed.
But let's not devolve into the
OpenBSD-every-word-must-be-right-or-you-get-flamed culture.
2009/2/10 Bruce Ellis :
> I just hate all the non-technical whining on here.
Agreed
> "Can someone look into the web interface?" would have worked.
Agreed
> brucee
-dho
> I just hate all the non-technical whining on here.
technical whining, now i'm all for that.
- erik
I just found a PC on the street, in Brazil, and it runs Plan9 fine -
ten minutes to install.
So don't cry to me.
I've changed my password so that Tiger can't use my account. He is
very happy with the crap machine.
I just hate all the non-technical whining on here.
"Can someone look into the web
i've updated the mirrors page; right now, it's only got 9grid.es right
now. i've also removed the explicit mention of specific mirrors from
the "sources repository" page, where i think you were seeing what you
were seeing. i've changed it to reference the mirrors page.
i only saw 9grid.de on the c
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Giacomo Tesio wrote:
> If a sincronization system for the grid nodes (or a sintetic filesystem
> providing access to the grid and replicating writes among node) would
> require more than 3 weeks of man work probably I've no chance to get this
> solution approved.
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 04:31:32PM +, matt wrote:
i may be wrong here but http://9fans.net/archive/2008/10/99 may be
suggesting why these problems are occuring.
if i'm correct, i feel compeled to say: what's the problem with using
old threads that discuss the same issue?
iru
while culli
i may be wrong here but http://9fans.net/archive/2008/10/99 may be
suggesting why these problems are occuring.
if i'm correct, i feel compeled to say: what's the problem with using
old threads that discuss the same issue?
iru
while culling my last set of links I did notice that I got a few "
i may be wrong here but http://9fans.net/archive/2008/10/99 may be
suggesting why these problems are occuring.
if i'm correct, i feel compeled to say: what's the problem with using
old threads that discuss the same issue?
iru
iirc sources is down because there was some heavy scraping going on that
was maxing out the CPU at the labs, see 9fans passim
I've found it frustrating, but mostly when trying to show off mad Glenda
skillz on reddit / slashdot.
The wiki points to a contrib mirror on 9grid.de that goes to a sp
All parody aside, Bruce, the service did exist at one point, and it
existed because it was useful to enough people for the labs to make it
and set it up. It's been available for several years. Hiccups aside,
it's a bummer that it's down for so long. At this point, I'd think it
would be obvious that
Thank you for your off-list advice, Mr jmk. I will visit the toy store
after band practice. What model do you recommend? I have been saving
my pocket money for just such a purpose.
You seem to be very good at Plan9. How do I learn such things? I'm a
newbie. Do you play Unreal Tournament? I heard a
Thank you for your advice, Skip and others, but I still can't access
my 386 machine from school. My home IP is 10.0.0.4 - I have asked
about this before but can't find the response. It has been like this
for over a year. I tried using the Apple PC in the library - maybe I'm
just thick. I have poste
Sorry 9fans. I'm having terrible trouble using my Nintendo and Lego to
rebuild the kernel. It's been like this for at least a month. Should I
upgrade to an Apple PC? I have an old 386 that runs Plan9 just fine
but I really like my Nintendo. Sorry for the lack of any more details
- I have to fix my
> However,
> echo open '/imaps/imap.gmail.com/u...@example.com/All Mail' >
> /mail/fs/ctl
> seems to create /mail/fs/Mail, but says it does not exist when I try
> to to access it. Quite weird. Is it just a naming problem with the
> space, or something different?
i think i mentioned this b
Personally, I use Mac OSX because I'm thick, but regardless of that,
Pietro et al are quite right. Erik correctly said that if you try to
access http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/
it works fine. However, if you try to follow the link "browse the
source", you, or at least I, get the following:
Obje
> Ah. Just grabbing the 9fans label via GMail IMAP, with 540 or so
> messages, was horrible enough -- I can't imagine how horrible dealing
> with the All Mail label might be, just to move a few messages around.
>
>
> ak
nupas is generally faster after the first connection.
http://www.quanstro.ne
Since the 9P service seems to be more stable, anyone willing to run an
httpd process on Plan 9 can provide web-based access to others -- just
mount /srv/sources within HTTP's namespace and provide webls access to
the DIR.
you know... if you really wanted to help in doing non-Plan 9-ish things
ak
I found a mirror at
http://www.kix.in/plan9/mirror/sources/contrib/
It is working,
cheers,
++pac
-Original Message-
From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net on behalf of Pietro Gagliardi
Sent: Tue 2/10/2009 5:13 AM
To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs
Subject: Re: [9fans] Web interface to '/
>
> So far it seems that there are no ready-made 9P-based solutions available
> for what
> you have in mind. At least I don't know of any.
>
In any solution available there are costs to pay (economical or temporary
ones).
So I could write the code missinig, if the time required to write the
files
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