Re: [9fans] install filsystem hangs on bad block

2010-03-16 Thread EBo
it would be good to double-check that your partition sizes make sense. I was finally able to replicate two related problems. The first concerns the logical partition that was not further broken into partitions.. I was able to verify that the install would install directly onto the

[9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread maht
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/qi-hardwares-tiny-hackable-ben-nanonote-now-shipping/

Re: [9fans] install filsystem hangs on bad block

2010-03-16 Thread erik quanstrom
The second problem arose when I repartitioned the disk with partdisk and it did not appear to have been updated when I continued with the install. I wonder if the partition map had not been updated with plan9's partprobe equivelent. did you type 'w' then 'q' at the fdisk, the prep prompts,

Re: [9fans] install filsystem hangs on bad block

2010-03-16 Thread EBo
Yes. As a note, I kept having write errors pop up, so I ran a low level disk format. So far it is running better, but have not tried to replicate various weird things I tripped over earlier. I'll try that again later. EBo -- erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net said: The second problem

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread blstuart
http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/qi-hardwares-tiny-hackable-ben-nanonote-now-shipping/ Okay, Maht. You just cost me $125 :) I just couldn't resist. Of course, it remains to be seen whether this will be another project that gets pushed onto the stack or we will see something come of it. What

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:54 AM, blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/qi-hardwares-tiny-hackable-ben-nanonote-now-shipping/ Okay, Maht.  You just cost me $125 :)  I just couldn't resist. Of course, it remains to be seen whether this will be another project that

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread Jack Johnson
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:54 AM, blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/qi-hardwares-tiny-hackable-ben-nanonote-now-shipping/ Okay, Maht.  You just cost me $125 :)  I just couldn't resist. I was wondering how you'd network one of those things:

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread Jack Johnson
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:53 AM, Jack Johnson knapj...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:54 AM,  blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/qi-hardwares-tiny-hackable-ben-nanonote-now-shipping/ Okay, Maht.  You just cost me $125 :)  I just couldn't resist. I

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread blstuart
Shame it doesn't have a cell phone radio built in, or Ron and I might have just what we needed for the 9phone. That would be cool. Unfortunately, the cell phone people seem a lot less friendly about releasing the information necessary to program their chips. At 32 MB of RAM, it's basically

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread Jack Johnson
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Jack Johnson knapj...@gmail.com wrote: Off-topic-ish, that 320x240 screen is probably the biggest challenge, trying to find some usable UI in that space. I think the idea of a native Inferno port is great. Sorry, last of the blather. It also seems ideal for

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread blstuart
I was wondering how you'd network one of those things: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_in_Nanonote I thought that was terribly cute. The other option is talking PPP over the USB. You'd be tethered, but you could at least talk. Off-topic-ish, that 320x240 screen is probably the biggest

[9fans] interesting qemu problem

2010-03-16 Thread ron minnich
I'm now running an upgraded qemu: QEMU PC emulator version 0.11.0 (qemu-kvm-0.11.0), Copyright (c) 2003-2008 Fabrice Bellard And have noticed that an old image I use for qemu is going astray. Same kernel as it has been for quite some time, but the load is pegged at about 2500 at all times. I'm

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread Jonas Amoson
As I get it, it does not feauture a USB host controller, but acts like an USB device that you can connect to your PC. Maybe it will work anyhow... I was wondering how you'd network one of those things: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_in_Nanonote I thought that was terribly cute. The

[9fans] 9vx on MacOS X: problem with contrib

2010-03-16 Thread Semka Novikov
Hi there, i'm newbie in Plan 9 so may be this is common mistake (but i still can't google it). I have Intel mac with 10.6 OSX and 9vx from official site. Also I have plan9.tar.bz from this thread: http://www.mail-archive.com/9fans@9fans.net/msg02125.html. Plan9 user is glenda, OSX user is semka,

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread blstuart
As I get it, it does not feauture a USB host controller, but acts like an USB device that you can connect to your PC. Maybe it will work anyhow... I was wondering how you'd network one of those things: http://en.qi-hardware.com/wiki/Wi-Fi_in_Nanonote I thought that was terribly cute.

Re: [9fans] omap3 notebook

2010-03-16 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 14 Mar 2010, at 10:22, Richard Miller wrote: There's also the Nokia's NIT devices if you're looking for pocketable. Might be a relatively hostile environment for anything but Maemo, though. Hosted inferno works well on these. That's good to know. It may be my best choice for my Zaurus

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread ron minnich
What flavor MIPS is it? 64 bit (I doubt it)? Is it a version that the compilers will like? ron

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread Tim Newsham
Shame it doesn't have a cell phone radio built in, or Ron and I might have just what we needed for the 9phone. 9phone? John Tim Newsham | www.thenewsh.com/~newsham | thenewsh.blogspot.com

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread John Floren
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:35 PM, Tim Newsham news...@lava.net wrote: Shame it doesn't have a cell phone radio built in, or Ron and I might have just what we needed for the 9phone. 9phone? Just an idea to run Plan 9 on phone hardware, son of bitsy. Looks like there's a lot of very cheap

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread blstuart
What flavor MIPS is it? 64 bit (I doubt it)? Is it a version that the compilers will like? Good point. I do know it's 32-bit, but so far that's all I know. Honestly, I had noticed it was MIPS and didn't really think any further about it. The good news is that both big-endian and little-endian

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread Patrick Kelly
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 11:44 -0500, John Floren wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 9:54 AM, blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote: http://www.engadget.com/2010/03/15/qi-hardwares-tiny-hackable-ben-nanonote-now-shipping/ Okay, Maht. You just cost me $125 :) I just couldn't resist. Of course, it

Re: [9fans] interesting qemu problem

2010-03-16 Thread ron minnich
I was wrong. I built a new kernel from sources and performance is still very bad, with a load of 2500 minimum. Also, venti, on this little machine, is a bit hungry for memory. venti...2010/0316 20:31:06 venti: conf.../boot/venti: mem 1,048,576 bcmem 140,753,578 icmem 211,130,368...httpd

Re: [9fans] interesting qemu problem

2010-03-16 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:07 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: This image formerly ran in 256M, now requires 512M, because venti footprint is 140+211+211 ... wait, how does it ever fit in 512 anyway. swap?  this would answer two questions. I should mention that another person

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Patrick Kelly kameo76...@gmail.com wrote: Any thought as to using the OpenMoko as a phone platform? vapor. That thing was pure vapor from start to end. ron

Re: [9fans] interesting qemu problem

2010-03-16 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:04 PM, ron minnich wrote: I was wrong. I built a new kernel from sources and performance is still very bad, with a load of 2500 minimum. Also, venti, on this little machine, is a bit hungry for memory. venti...2010/0316 20:31:06 venti: conf.../boot/venti: mem 1,048,576

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread Patrick Kelly
On Tue, 2010-03-16 at 15:38 -0800, ron minnich wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 1:02 PM, Patrick Kelly kameo76...@gmail.com wrote: Any thought as to using the OpenMoko as a phone platform? vapor. That thing was pure vapor from start to end. Figures sickening how many potentially nice,

Re: [9fans] interesting qemu problem

2010-03-16 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: You could configure venti to be less aggressive with its use of memory, but that would likely hurt performance. Running venti inside qemu is silly.  If you really want venti for your vm, run venti on the host and

Re: [9fans] interesting qemu problem

2010-03-16 Thread erik quanstrom
I tend to disagree. If I'm running qemu it is because I want to simulate a whole-machine environment. If I don't need that simulation, I'll go back to 9vx. seems that keeping up with qemu is at least as hard as keeping up with real hardware. - erik

Re: [9fans] interesting qemu problem

2010-03-16 Thread Eric Van Hensbergen
On Mar 16, 2010, at 6:52 PM, ron minnich wrote: On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:47 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: You could configure venti to be less aggressive with its use of memory, but that would likely hurt performance. Running venti inside qemu is silly. If you really

Re: [9fans] interesting qemu problem

2010-03-16 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, but Plan 9's a cluster environment, nothing wrong with the venti server being elsewhere (in fact, thats kind of expected) -- unless of course you are debugging the venti server. I'm using qemu to debug a

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread David Arnold
On 16/03/2010, at 5:02 PM, Patrick Kelly wrote: Any thought as to using the OpenMoko as a phone platform? Unfortunately, I don't think either the Neo1973 or the FreeRunner are useful as a daily-use phone due to various hardware bugs or limitations. d

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread Tim Newsham
9phone? Just an idea to run Plan 9 on phone hardware, son of bitsy. Looks like there's a lot of very cheap Android devices coming from China in the near future, so we may be in luck there. Hmm.. There's the OK-labs android stuff which virtualizes android on top of L4. If only p9 was running

[9fans] recreational programming of an evening

2010-03-16 Thread ron minnich
I'm an admirer of acid but never found that I like the truss functions all that much. I've used acid on just enough semi-working platforms, where breakpoints don't do what is expected, that truss is not frequently operational and hence not that useful. Also, it's not that great for fork. And, I'm

Re: [9fans] more little hardware

2010-03-16 Thread ron minnich
On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 8:03 PM, Tim Newsham news...@lava.net wrote: Hmm..  There's the OK-labs android stuff which virtualizes android on top of L4.  If only p9 was running on top of L4 :) Get cracking Tim! how hard can it be? :-) Actually I still think igep + sparkfun phone module might be