Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-16 Thread erik quanstrom
If you look at what a hard link is, you'll realize why they are not in Plan 9. nominated for informative post the month. - erik

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-16 Thread erik quanstrom
If they're unsupported, why? Were they simply overlooked? Are there compelling technical or theoretical reasons for not providing them? i think the record is quite clear that ken, rob, presotto, et. al. were well-aware of these things. ron has made excellent points about why these features

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-16 Thread smiley
ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com writes: If you look at what a hard link is, you'll realize why they are not in Plan 9. It's not that obvious to me. A hard link is another name for a file, uniquely identified by type,device,qid. The effect of a hard link can be simulated with bind, but

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-16 Thread erik quanstrom
It's not that obvious to me. A hard link is another name for a file, uniquely identified by type,device,qid. how do you specify the device? you can't without giving up on per-process-group namespaces. i don't think there's any way to uniquely identify a device except through a namespace,

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-16 Thread Richard Miller
rminn...@gmail.com: the tangled thicket of overlapping, but incompatible, feature sets that are almost, but not quite, entirely unlike what Unix was supposed to be: that's Linux today. One for the fortunes file.

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-16 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Linux has slowly become Windows-lite On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: rminn...@gmail.com: the tangled thicket of overlapping, but incompatible, feature sets that are almost, but not quite, entirely unlike what Unix was supposed to be: that's Linux

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-16 Thread Bakul Shah
On Sat, 16 Apr 2011 17:33:39 - smi...@zenzebra.mv.com wrote: ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com writes: If you look at what a hard link is, you'll realize why they are not in Plan 9. It's not that obvious to me. A hard link is another name for a file, uniquely identified by

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

2011-04-16 Thread Rob Pike
On Sat, Apr 16, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: Linux has slowly become Windows-lite Except for the lite part. -rob