Re: [9fans] c++

2012-11-20 Thread Steve Simon
How do you studiously not do something? Doesn't the imply working hard at something? Indeed, everything I did read about Go made it look very attractive so I am ignoring it as I know myself. If I read more I will start to get annoyed that I am wasting my time learning C++ when Go is a much

Re: [9fans] c++

2012-11-20 Thread Bakul Shah
On Nov 19, 2012, at 2:48 PM, steve wrote: so far i have written a couple of hundred lines of c++, but for me the problem i see is how to develop a sense of c++ style. I want to write good code, but I don't even know what good c++ code looks like! Look at something like OpenSceneGraph.

Re: [9fans] c++

2012-11-20 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 21:08 -0500, Matthew Veety wrote: How do you studiously not do something? Doesn't the imply working hard at something? Irony (from the Ancient Greek εἰρωνεία eirōneía, meaning dissimulation or feigned ignorance)[1] is a rhetorical device, literary technique, or situation

Re: [9fans] c++

2012-11-20 Thread tlaronde
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 02:58:28PM -0500, Wes Kussmaul wrote: Irony (from the Ancient Greek eir?neía, meaning dissimulation or feigned ignorance)[1] is a rhetorical device, literary technique, or situation in which there is an incongruity between the literal and the implied meaning.

Re: [9fans] c++

2012-11-20 Thread dexen deVries
On Monday 19 of November 2012 22:48:09 steve wrote: (...) i have been on a 3 day course and have been reading the c++ primer, and have effective c++ also, so i seem well equipped. the environment i am to use is Qt based as it has to be cross platform, though we hope to try to keep the core

Re: [9fans] c++

2012-11-20 Thread Wes Kussmaul
On Tue, 2012-11-20 at 21:07 +0100, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: Do you mean that C++ is irony because of the discrepancy between what you wrote and what you get? Yeah, that and the fact that the comment was made by someone (me) who has not a clue about C++

Re: [9fans] c++

2012-11-20 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
just to add to what others have said, it's easier to write code using C++ features that are applicable to the task at hand, than it is to read and understand a random piece of C++ code. keep in mind that writing code will eventually lead to using STL and other libraries; so you'll be forced to

[9fans] 9pi SD card image

2012-11-20 Thread Richard Miller
For those who saw my raspberry pi demo at iwp9 and were inspired to order one: there's now an updated SD card image 9pi.img.gz in contrib/miller which fixes a few last (I hope) glitches. If you already have an SD image, you can just get the new kernel from contrib/miller/9/rpi/9pi . The image is

[9fans] go forth and ulong no more!

2012-11-20 Thread erik quanstrom
i've written a little man page /n/sources/contrib/quanstro/types http://iwp9.org/magic/man2html/2/types describing a progression of the plan 9 type system that works outside the 32-bit-only world we've been living in since 1992. nix uses this type system. - erik

[9fans] iwp9 2013

2012-11-20 Thread erik quanstrom
i have these potential dates. if anyone has known conflicts with any of these, please send me an email off list. thanks! Potential dates for a Plan 9 conference in Athens 2013: Oct. 3-5 - away game Oct. 17-19 - away game Oct. 24-26 - no game Oct.

Re: [9fans] iwp9 2013

2012-11-20 Thread Joseph Stewart
So I missed the news that iwp9 will be in Athens, GA next year?!?! On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:58 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: i have these potential dates. if anyone has known conflicts with any of these, please send me an email off list. thanks! Potential dates

Re: [9fans] iwp9 2013

2012-11-20 Thread Matthew Veety
Yes you did.

Re: [9fans] iwp9 2013

2012-11-20 Thread John Floren
Evidently decided by the Plan 9 Cabal... sp9sss has competition! Or it came up at Dublin and the rest of us missed it, whichever one :) john On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 5:26 PM, Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote: Yes you did.

Re: [9fans] iwp9 2013

2012-11-20 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
it was mentioned in an earlier announcement by erik and the location was clarified in the geography lesson that followed. On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 4:30 PM, Joseph Stewart joseph.stew...@gmail.com wrote: So I missed the news that iwp9 will be in Athens, GA next year?!?! On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at

Re: [9fans] iwp9 2013

2012-11-20 Thread Aram Hăvărneanu
What does away game mean? -- Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] iwp9 2013

2012-11-20 Thread John Floren
It means that the football hooligans will be out of town rather than filling all the hotels and drinking all the beer. I'm told that Athens during a college football game is truly a sight to see. (From a distance. On closed-circuit camera. In a bunker) john On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 10:20 PM, Aram

Re: [9fans] iwp9 2013

2012-11-20 Thread Matthew Veety
On Tue, 20 Nov 2012, John Floren wrote: It means that the football hooligans will be out of town rather than filling all the hotels and drinking all the beer. I'm told that Athens during a college football game is truly a sight to see. (From a distance. On closed-circuit camera. In a bunker)

Re: [9fans] iwp9 2013

2012-11-20 Thread Rob DeHart
It refers to a sporting event that takes place at the other team's location. On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Aram Hăvărneanu ara...@mgk.ro wrote: What does away game mean? -- Aram Hăvărneanu

Re: [9fans] iwp9 2013

2012-11-20 Thread Rob DeHart
Whee, delayed mailbox update. Pardon the noise. On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:55 AM, Rob DeHart rsdeh...@gmail.com wrote: It refers to a sporting event that takes place at the other team's location. On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Aram Hăvărneanu ara...@mgk.ro wrote: What does away game