[9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Terry Wendt
I've downloaded the plan9.iso image twice from http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/download.html Once about two weeks ago, once today. Both times I extracted the plan9.iso.bz2 file to plan9.iso. Both times I burned the image to a cd, and both times the program(k3b) told me the image wasn't the

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Jun 28 12:27:26 EDT 2013, silicon.pengui...@gmail.com wrote: I've downloaded the plan9.iso image twice from http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/download.html Once about two weeks ago, once today. Both times I extracted the plan9.iso.bz2 file to plan9.iso. Both times I burned the image

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Jun 28, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Terry Wendt silicon.pengui...@gmail.com wrote: I've downloaded the plan9.iso image twice from http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/download.html Once about two weeks ago, once today. Both times I extracted the plan9.iso.bz2 file to plan9.iso. Both times I burned

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
these are two, unrelated issues. the .iso size issue should not be a big deal. there appears to be some accounting that's off for cd-roms in the plan 9 iso burning software. (mk9660(8)). Wouldn't surprise me, but it seems to work for me. If anyone has a more detailed explanation of

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Terry Wendt
Thank you for your response erik. The machine I'm trying to boot this on is an old dell inspiron 530. Processor - Intel Pentium Dual CPU E2140 @ 1.60 GHz Ram - 1 GB I just thought of something... The HD is on the primary cable, and a DVD and CD are on the secondary. The DVD drive is the device

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Terry Wendt
The file has an actual size on the file system, but the files header tells the burning app that it has a different size. This is my guess only... Terry. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Gorka Guardiola pau...@gmail.com wrote: On Jun 28, 2013, at 6:27 PM, Terry Wendt silicon.pengui...@gmail.com

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Paul A. Patience
Terry Wendt silicon.pengui...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you for your response erik. The machine I'm trying to boot this on is an old dell inspiron 530. 9front runs fine on my dell inspiron 530. i have to boot it with *acpi= in plan9.ini, though. pap

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread erik quanstrom
Wouldn't surprise me, but it seems to work for me. If anyone has a more detailed explanation of what is wrong where, I'll take a look at it. we're now writing the nwa to disk. this calculation appears to be incorrect. here's the check in cdfs: /* reconcile differing nwas */

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread tlaronde
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:40:46PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: this iso uses the traditional el-torito method. unfortunately, the installer is size-constrained (1.44MB) and doesn't support usb. FWIW (I implemented El-Torito support for GRUB years ago), the image has to be some floppy

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:19 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: Wouldn't surprise me, but it seems to work for me. If anyone has a more detailed explanation of what is wrong where, I'll take a look at it. we're now writing the nwa to disk. this calculation appears to be

[9fans] Tried 9atom.nboot.iso.bz2

2013-06-28 Thread Terry Wendt
This was a fail to boot. It actually gets to: Booting from CD: ... then reboots the pc goes through BIOS screen Booting from CD: ... over and over. Next I'll try the 9atom.iso.bz2 Foolish newbie question: I am supposed to unzip the image before burning it, right? Just making sure I'm not doing

Re: [9fans] Tried 9atom.nboot.iso.bz2

2013-06-28 Thread erik quanstrom
Foolish newbie question: I am supposed to unzip the image before burning it, right? Just making sure I'm not doing something and not letting you know. I sure that's the procedure, just being thorough. bunzip the image before burning. :-) - erik

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Terry Wendt
If its any help, when I select 9atom.nboot.iso within K3b to burn to disc, it reports the filesize as 360.9 MB but the declared volume size as 721.7 GB. Interesting. Terry. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:43 PM, Gorka Guardiola pau...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:19 PM, erik

Re: [9fans] Tried 9atom.nboot.iso.bz2

2013-06-28 Thread Terry Wendt
I did, just wanted to make sure... I'm also writing the discs using DAO. Correct? I'm more or less following the same procedure I would for a linux distro. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:48 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: Foolish newbie question: I am supposed to unzip the image

Re: [9fans] Tried 9atom.nboot.iso.bz2

2013-06-28 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri Jun 28 13:57:37 EDT 2013, silicon.pengui...@gmail.com wrote: I did, just wanted to make sure... I'm also writing the discs using DAO. Correct? I'm more or less following the same procedure I would for a linux distro. that's right. - erik

Re: [9fans] Tried 9atom.nboot.iso.bz2

2013-06-28 Thread Matthew Veety
pap: If you can give me a link to get 9front, I'll try that to. Thanks. I am not pap (nor a suitable alternative), but you can get 9front at http://9front.org . Also has nice links to our wiki. -- Veety

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:38 PM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:40:46PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: this iso uses the traditional el-torito method. unfortunately, the installer is size-constrained (1.44MB) and doesn't support usb. FWIW (I implemented El-Torito

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread erik quanstrom
generates an iso file. This is cdfs check for the first writable block of the track, which has to do with burning it. An iso is burnt inside a track and is mostly independent from the details of what tracks exist. Terry downloaded the iso, and tried to burn it in linux. If something is

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 8:13 PM, Gorka Guardiola pau...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:38 PM, tlaro...@polynum.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 12:40:46PM -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: this iso uses the tradition Emulation goes hand in hand with pbsraw.s. I mean

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
the blocks 2M aligned you should be fine with most modern BIOSes. I meant 2K aligned. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Terry Wendt silicon.pengui...@gmail.com wrote: If its any help, when I select 9atom.nboot.iso within K3b to burn to disc, it reports the filesize as 360.9 MB but the

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/files/ECMA-ST/Ecma-119.pdf page 19: Volume Space Size (BP 81 to 88) This field shall specify as a 32-bit number the number of Logical Blocks in which the Volume Space of the volume is recorded. This field shall be recorded according to 7.3.3.

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread erik quanstrom
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Terry Wendt silicon.pengui...@gmail.com wrote: If its any help, when I select 9atom.nboot.iso within K3b to burn to disc, it reports the filesize as 360.9 MB but the declared volume size as 721.7 GB. This is very interesting because it is exactly

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
So... looking at the standard, the problem may be that the volume size is in bytes instead of in blocks? When I xd a plan 9 image (bytes are represented in little and big endian): 0008000 01434430 30310100 504c414e 20392042 0008010 4f4f5420 49534f39 36363020 20202020 0008020 20202020 20202020

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
So, the proposed change would be to take out the *Blocksize from the last parameter of setvolsize in the calls. Can someone test it with, say... k3b and see if it improves something? I still don't understand why it would report a *2 difference... G.

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
Agh, now I see it, I thought the units was the same, but it was actually 2K the difference. 360.9 MB but the declared volume size ^^^ as 721.7 GB. ^^^ So all is explained. Ok, I'll create a patch. G. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 10:13 PM, Gorka Guardiola

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
I created the patch mkisovolsize. G.

[9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread Terry Wendt
K3b actually said 721.7 GB. As in Gigabytes. So, I've downloaded, burned, and tried to install the following iso images: 9front-2688.28a9914426a3.iso (I used Brasero to burn the cd, no size complaints) +9atom.iso 9atom.iso 9atom.nboot.iso plan9.iso None actually booted, but some got farther

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread Matthew Veety
Anyway, next steps? Terry. Hit enter at the 9front bootargs prompt.

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread Bakul Shah
On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 16:26:51 CDT Terry Wendt silicon.pengui...@gmail.com wrote: K3b actually said 721.7 GB. As in Gigabytes. It really has no business looking into a .iso when all it is doing is copying it to a CD. On FreeBSD I can just do burncd -f /dev/acd0 data plan9.iso fixate ehci

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread Gorka Guardiola
On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 11:26 PM, Terry Wendt silicon.pengui...@gmail.comwrote: K3b actually said 721.7 GB. As in Gigabytes. Yes, 720GB/360MB is 2K. The size complains are fixed by my patch. I can't generate an image now, but that problem should be fixed for the future. In any case, I don't

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread Terry Wendt
I did that, nothing. I thought I might need to enter something, so I browsed the plan9 install instructions, then tried to enter something but no characters echoed. Terry. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, next steps? Terry. Hit enter at the

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread Terry Wendt
I'm using GRUB2, and I have an empty primary partition. I'm thinking about using grub to install it. It's worth a shot! Thanks, Terry. On Fri, Jun 28, 2013 at 6:11 PM, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote: On Fri, 28 Jun 2013 16:26:51 CDT Terry Wendt silicon.pengui...@gmail.com wrote: K3b

[9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread Terry Wendt
Anyway, next steps? I would recommend either a virtual machine like Bakul says or, if possible change the CD drive. You could try also booting from USB, I don't know if there are any usb images laying around... I'm starting to think maybe the dvd drive is buggy. I'll probably swap the cd

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread erik quanstrom
It really has no business looking into a .iso when all it is doing is copying it to a CD. On FreeBSD I can just do burncd -f /dev/acd0 data plan9.iso fixate ehci 0xe0001000: port3 didn't reset within 500ms; status 0x1101 ehci 0xe0001000: port4 didn't reset within 500ms; status

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread Paul A . Patience
did you enable *acpi= when booting 9front? see the section Boot at [1]. pap [1] http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/troubleshooting

Re: [9fans] plan9 iso image cont.

2013-06-28 Thread sl
9front.iso - never gave me an option to run from cd or install, it just started launching itself. Several screens of info and it stop on this line: bootargs is (tcp, il, local!device)[local!dev/sdD0/data] _ blinking cursor, doa! Press enter. -sl