[9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
Greetings, I installed 9Front on an old Dell Inspiron 5100. It seems to run fine. While installing it, it asked for dial-up numbers. Since the machine has an ethernet card I just typed in random info to get past the prompts. Now that it is running, I can't seem to get access to the ethernet

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
1.0.0: vid 03.00.00 1002/4c57 11 0:e808 134217728 1:c001 256 2:fcff 65536 Thanks! On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 1:07 PM, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: what network card is in that machine? run the pci command and tell us the vid/did. -- cinap

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread cinap_lenrek
thats your graphics card (some radeon). i need the ethernet cad. pci | grep net -- cinap

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Kurt H Maier
Quoting Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name: 1.0.0: vid 03.00.00 1002/4c57 11 0:e808 134217728 1:c001 256 2:fcff 65536 Thanks! That's a video card, Blake. khm

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
Sorry. 2.1.0 net 02.00.00 14e4/4401 11 0:faffe000 8192 On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 1:48 PM, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: thats your graphics card (some radeon). i need the ethernet cad. pci | grep net -- cinap

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread andrey mirtchovski
i think you should spell it 9-Front :)

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread cinap_lenrek
hahaha, excellent ;) -- cinap

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread erik quanstrom
On Sun Dec 22 14:56:12 EST 2013, bl...@mcbride.name wrote: Sorry. 2.1.0 net 02.00.00 14e4/4401 11 0:faffe000 8192 ladd; pci -v 14e4/4401 14e4/4401 Broadcom CorporationBCM4401 100Base-T looks to be unsupported. - erik

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
Okay, thanks! It is an ancient machine. Thought it would be a good place to play with it on. No sense in messing with it further. On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 2:04 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: On Sun Dec 22 14:56:12 EST 2013, bl...@mcbride.name wrote: Sorry. 2.1.0 net

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread erik quanstrom
Okay, thanks! It is an ancient machine. Thought it would be a good place to play with it on. No sense in messing with it further. here's what works with plan 9 - ancient cards tend to work, esp. ne2000-style which are used in vms. - nearly any intel - realtek 8139/8169 - just a few broadcom

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
Just for grins, without a network card, how can I mount/read/write to a DOS formatted USB drive? Thanks. On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 2:31 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote: Okay, thanks! It is an ancient machine. Thought it would be a good place to play with it on. No sense in

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread cinap_lenrek
the control and data/partition files appear appear under /dev/sdU*. in 9front, dos partition gets automounted and appears as /shr/sdU*. no action needed. in labs plan9, theres a usbfat: script to read the partition table and mounts it. -- cinap

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
Thanks. I am using 9front on that machine. On /shr I have: d usb d usbnet Under /shr/usb I have: d sdU6.0 - usbevent Under /shr/usb/sdU6.0 I have: - ctl - data - raw Under /dev/sdU6.0 I also have: - ctl - data - raw I don't know what to do from

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread cinap_lenrek
looks like theres no dos partition. there might be a problem reading the drive or there might not be a dos partition there. run the following command: disk/fdisk -p /dev/sdU6.0/data that should print something like: part dos 31 4030031 -- cinap

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
Thanks. I freshly formatted the drive with a DOS partition and put some files on it for testing. It reads fine on another machine. When I issued your command I got: part dos 63 31301613 Also, where is a good place to read about formatting, mounting, accessing, flushing, and unmounting?

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread cinap_lenrek
thats strange. when you plug in the drive, the nusbrc script started the usb disk filesystem and run that fdisk command to register the partitions. for some reason, the partitions step failed. but when you run it manually later it wored. the drive might be sensitive to the timing? can you pull

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 6:03 PM, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: thats strange. when you plug in the drive, the nusbrc script started the usb disk filesystem and run that fdisk command to register the partitions. for some reason, the partitions step failed. but when you run it manually later

[9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
Greetings, I've searched the net to find a way to add a new user. The following command doesn't work: con -l /srv/fscons I gather that command is for fossil, and fossil isn't used anymore. I poked around /srv but couldn't find a substitute. Appreciate any help. Blake

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 6:03 PM, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: the drive might be sensitive to the timing? can you pull and replug the drive and see if there are any error messages on the console? I don't know

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 6:03 PM, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: the drive might be sensitive to the timing? can you pull and

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread andrey mirtchovski
While you're at it; is it 9-Front (as Andrey said above) and 9-Atom? So, space with Plan 9 and dash with the other two? both 9᠎Front and 9᠎Atom use U+180E, Mongolian Vowel Separator, to stand between the digit and the letters. it is a zero-length space signifying the major departure from the

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Blake McBride
I use ASCII. Take your pick on how I display the three. On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 9:37 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.comwrote: While you're at it; is it 9-Front (as Andrey said above) and 9-Atom? So, space with Plan 9 and dash with the other two? both 9᠎Front and 9᠎Atom use

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 7:29 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 9:07 PM, Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 5:43 PM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.namewrote: On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 6:03 PM, cinap_len...@felloff.net

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread cinap_lenrek
the fdisk command i gave you could read the partition table fine. (it didnt register them, just print) the code thats handling the automounting (/shr) should'v discovered the partitions by running the same command but apparently that didnt work. (otherwise, the dos partition should'v shown up in

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

2013-12-22 Thread Sergey Zhilkin
Hello ! From - https://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/admin Adding Users Add a new user on the file server: echo newuser username /srv/cwfs.cmd If needed, make the new user a member of the upas (email) group: echo newuser upas +username /srv/cwfs.cmd The newuser filesystem command is

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

2013-12-22 Thread Matthew Veety
It's not super required to add a new user on standalone systems. Obviously file/auth servers have more of a need. You're system isn't less secure using Glenda. You're going to be host owner no matter what user you use. On Dec 23, 2013, at 0:19, Sergey Zhilkin szhil...@gmail.com wrote: Hello

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-22 Thread Matthew Veety
On Mon, 23 Dec 2013, Kurt H Maier wrote: Quoting Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name: I use ASCII. Not on 9front, you don't. khm Well isn't the lower bit of UTF ASCII? -- Veety