[9fans] 2014 hardware overview
Hello 9fans ! I've discovered Plan9 several years ago, and time to time, I read some documentation or walk throught the archive of this list. And it seems that I'm convinced by plan9 conception. Now, I'd like to give plan9 a real try. And since I need some hardware for that task, I'm querying 9fans for a recent hardware overview. Could you please answer the following questions ? 1) UEFI bios I know that 9load and friends can't handle UEFI bios, but I'm guessing if it's possible to use GRUB and chainload Plan9 when the bios is UEFI. Is that possible ? 2) Intel atom boards I know that the supermicro X7SPA-H-D525 works with plan9. But it becomes hard to find, while for the same price one can have a last generation supermicro atom board. Does anyone know if the recent atom processor (such as C2750, C2550, S1200, N2800, D2700) works with Plan9 ? What about the C2000 sata3 soc ? What about the C2000 i354 ethernet controler ? 3) Arm boards A lot of works has been done on the raspberry pi and the trimslice, but some other arm boards are sometimes mentionned on this list. Which are the arm boards know working actually and does someone is working on a port that might be soon public ? 4) Obvious hardware More generally, what do you think is the actual obvious hardware that one can find to build a file server and a cpu server for home usage ? Thanks for the answers ! Pierre-Jean.
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On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 11:32:44AM +0200, Pierre-Jean wrote: 4) Obvious hardware More generally, what do you think is the actual obvious hardware that one can find to build a file server and a cpu server for home usage ? the obvious hardware is a thinkpad. hello from 9front on an X301. pgpJLoBPnEitE.pgp Description: PGP signature
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look http://plan9.aichi-u.ac.jp/hardware/ 2014/06/29 18:32、Pierre-Jean pl...@utroff.org のメール： 4) Obvious hardware More generally, what do you think is the actual obvious hardware that one can find to build a file server and a cpu server for home usage ?
Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview
Welcome to a clean and simple OS. At home I run a supermicro dual 330 atom motherboard which I use as a combined cpu and auth serevr. I think this is a X7SPA-H-D525 though I honestly don't remember the part and don't want to open it up to look. I have a raspberry pi as a terminal - this works wonderfully well booting in the time it takes me to move from the power switch on the wall to the keyboard. At work I have a single cpu/auth/terminal server which is a dull HP desktop box but it serves well enough. sheeva plugs also work well though I don't have one. -Steve
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On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 5:25 PM, arisawa aris...@ar.aichi-u.ac.jp wrote: look http://plan9.aichi-u.ac.jp/hardware/ Thank you for the list. I have been looking at adding some cheap hardware to my home as well, to play with venti. It would have been nice if plan9 is ported to one of those NAS boxes. I will try a hand myself if I can get hold of a cheap old NAS box like the WD MyBook world edition. Ramakrishnan 2014/06/29 18:32、Pierre-Jean pl...@utroff.org のメール： 4) Obvious hardware More generally, what do you think is the actual obvious hardware that one can find to build a file server and a cpu server for home usage ? -- Ramakrishnan
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Hello alls, Nick Owens wrote: the obvious hardware is a thinkpad. Using a laptop as a server seems strange, but is effectively a simple solution. Arisawa wrote: look http://plan9.aichi-u.ac.jp/hardware/ Very handfull. Steve Simon wrote: At home I run... That confirm the usual list of known working hardware. Thanks a lot for the various answers. Reading them, I believe that: 1) It's not possible to chainload plan9 when the firmware is uefi. But someone wrote me off list that «most uefi firmware also includes bios», and apparently, that is the case of the supermicro boards (their documentation seems to mention uefi boot as an option, and not as the default). 2) C2000 sata soc and i354 ethernet controllers are not known working yet. 3) There's not so much hope to see a port for another arm board than the raspberry pi and the trimslice soon. Cheers, Pierre-Jean.
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1) UEFI bios I know that 9load and friends can't handle UEFI bios, but I'm guessing if it's possible to use GRUB and chainload Plan9 when the bios is UEFI. Is that possible ? yes, this is possible. the plan9 kernel can be made a multiboot image and loaded by any multiboot loader like grub. some changes are needed for labs plan9 for this to work tho, mainly moving the data segment on page boundary when called from multiboot entry point and using the multiboot memory map and plan9.ini as initrd module. this works out of the box with 9front. -- cinap
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http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/KnownWorkingHardware http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/hardware/ sl
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The w510 also works with 9front. WiFi works with wpa2 , ethernet works, native screen resolution of 1366x768 does not currently work, it's stretched 1024x768. I'll mange a full list when I'm home. On Jun 29, 2014 3:02 PM, s...@9front.org wrote: http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/KnownWorkingHardware http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/hardware/ sl
[9fans] Update Raspberry Pi Steps (Wiki Confusion)
I am trying to update my Raspberry Pi, and I've run: replica/pull -v /dist/replica/network The wiki at http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Updating_an_ARM_system/index.html says that I now have to recompile anything which has changed by running 'mk install' in the appropriate directory. What is / which are the appropriate directory(ies)? I can't seem to figure out where the update source code is. Thanks very much.
Re: [9fans] Update Raspberry Pi Steps (Wiki Confusion)
http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Updating_an_ARM_system/index.html says that I now have to recompile anything which has changed by running 'mk install' in the appropriate directory. What is / which are the appropriate directory(ies)? I can't seem to figure out where the update source code is. Thanks very much. any directories with updated source. :-) if you don't want to think about it, and you are confident that the pull was correct then mk install from /sys/src. - erik
Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview
Nick Owens wrote: the obvious hardware is a thinkpad. Using a laptop as a server seems strange, but is effectively a simple solution. the regular supermicro server boards are known to work well. the x9 series are better tested than the x10s. but the x10s should work. also the supermicro d5xx work fine. Arisawa wrote: look http://plan9.aichi-u.ac.jp/hardware/ Very handfull. Steve Simon wrote: At home I run... That confirm the usual list of known working hardware. Thanks a lot for the various answers. Reading them, I believe that: 1) It's not possible to chainload plan9 when the firmware is uefi. But someone wrote me off list that «most uefi firmware also includes bios», and apparently, that is the case of the supermicro boards (their documentation seems to mention uefi boot as an option, and not as the default). that's the case for everything i've tried, but perhaps that's not a representive sample. 2) C2000 sata soc and i354 ethernet controllers are not known working yet. should be working with 9atom. 3) There's not so much hope to see a port for another arm board than the raspberry pi and the trimslice soon. that's news to me. - erik
Re: [9fans] Update Raspberry Pi Steps (Wiki Confusion)
On Sun, 29 Jun 2014 16:28:34 CDT Brian Vito brian.vi...@gmail.com wrote: I am trying to update my Raspberry Pi, and I've run: replica/pull -v /dist/replica/network The wiki at http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/Updating_an_ARM_system/index.html says that I now have to recompile anything which has changed by running 'mk install' in the appropriate directory. What is / which are the appropriate directory(ies)? I can't seem to figure out where the update source code is. Thanks very much. Due to the recent addition of the nsec() syscall make sure you update the kernel first (assuming you are running Richard Miller's 9pi img). cd /sys/src mk # this rebuild everything but doesn't install binaries # some are needed for the root image cd /sys/src/9/bcm mk # this build 9pi dosmnt 1 /n/c cp 9pi /n/c/9pi # assuming you are running 9pi fshalt ^T^Tr # to reboot Once rebooted cd /sys/src mk install
[9fans] For the more esoteric mind...
Hello 9fans, I have an itching need for some Plan 9 promotional posters for my new room in the student accommodation here in Newcastle. I was thinking of getting the immortal IWP9 4e Submit poster printed on glossy paper at about A3 size, and mounting it on my wall, and possibly the Time Tunnel logo in the PDF that floated through the group earlier in the year. However, if anyone has any promotional material they have obtained, and willing to part with, or otherwise had produced themselves, and are willing to part with, I'd be most interested. I wonder what the Newcastle Uni CompSci people are going to think of my inane Plan 9 ramblings... perhaps these posters will persuade them, I am the real deal... Many thanks! Shane.
