Re: [9fans] Kabini or Raspberry Pi?

2014-07-01 Thread Richard Miller
 if anyone has any information on Plan 9 and Xen, that would be most welcome 
 too.

http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/installing_in_Xen_3.0

This is a paravirtualised kernel which runs on xen; I've used it on an
AWS server with reasonable success.

With modern intel hardware, it's also possible to run normal native plan 9
on Xen.

 for my Plan9 CPU/Auth/File server.   Another candidate
 is raspberry pi.

The pi makes an excellent terminal but I wouldn't use one as a file server.
The only way to attach a local disk is via usb, and the usb interface is
not the strongest point of the Broadcom SoC.  It will be slow and probably
unreliable.




Re: [9fans] Kabini or Raspberry Pi?

2014-07-01 Thread hiro
Been running 9front on kvm lately, and it has even better uptime than
my linux vservers.
What's the advantage for you guys to use XEN as apposed to kvm/qemu?



Re: [9fans] Kabini or Raspberry Pi?

2014-07-01 Thread hiro
I agree with miller about rpi USB and thus ethernet being kind limited
in usefulness.
The kirkwood though is a good basis for non-terminals. Even USB disks
aren't *that* slow in my experience (10M/s).



Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview

2014-07-01 Thread balaji
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 3:23 AM, Pierre-Jean pl...@utroff.org wrote:

 Helped by the various answers and a promotion
 on a webstore, I've purchased a supermicro x9SCAA
 motherboard.
 http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/X9/X9SCAA.cfm

 That might be working out of the box with one or the other
 distribution. I'll make a report here once tested.

I've tried booting from usd cdrom, usb stick both 9labs and 9legacy.
it does not recognize them. this is ICH9R that's claimed to be
supported.

I'm going to try one that has IDE support and ICH9R so it can boot
from cdrom and hopefully then recognize the sata chipset, like this
one:
http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/3210/X7SBi.cfm



Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview

2014-07-01 Thread balaji
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 9:20 AM, balaji balaji.srinivasa+pl...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 3:23 AM, Pierre-Jean pl...@utroff.org wrote:

 Helped by the various answers and a promotion
 on a webstore, I've purchased a supermicro x9SCAA
 motherboard.
 http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/ATOM/X9/X9SCAA.cfm

 That might be working out of the box with one or the other
 distribution. I'll make a report here once tested.

 I've tried booting from usd cdrom, usb stick both 9labs and 9legacy.
 it does not recognize them. this is ICH9R that's claimed to be
 supported.

the board is
http://www.supermicro.com.tw/products/motherboard/ATOM/ICH9/X7SPE.cfm
part of
http://www.supermicro.com.tw/products/system/1U/5015/SYS-5015A-PHF.cfm

 I'm going to try one that has IDE support and ICH9R so it can boot
 from cdrom and hopefully then recognize the sata chipset, like this
 one:
 http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon3000/3210/X7SBi.cfm



Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview

2014-07-01 Thread David du Colombier
 I've tried booting from usd cdrom, usb stick both 9labs and 9legacy.
 it does not recognize them. this is ICH9R that's claimed to be
 supported.

ICH9R should be supported, but the sdiahci driver is not present
in the installation kernel (pcflop) from the Bell Labs CD image.

You may try this image, which is not ideal, but has the merit
to include the sdiahci driver in the pcflop kernel.

http://9legacy.org/download/9spirit.iso.bz2

-- 
David du Colombier



Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview

2014-07-01 Thread Balaji
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 10:02 AM, David du Colombier 0in...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've tried booting from usd cdrom, usb stick both 9labs and 9legacy.
 it does not recognize them. this is ICH9R that's claimed to be
 supported.

 ICH9R should be supported, but the sdiahci driver is not present
 in the installation kernel (pcflop) from the Bell Labs CD image.

 You may try this image, which is not ideal, but has the merit
 to include the sdiahci driver in the pcflop kernel.

 http://9legacy.org/download/9spirit.iso.bz2

winrar says unexpected end of archive when extracting...



[9fans] Kabini or Raspberry Pi?

2014-07-01 Thread Richard Miller
 What's the advantage for you guys to use XEN as apposed to kvm/qemu?

http://thecloudmarket.com/image/ami-cfa332ff--plan9-fossil




Re: [9fans] Kabini or Raspberry Pi?

2014-07-01 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
i have put some instructions together -- from Richard's 9fans posts and
email correspondences -- on how to install your own kernel once you've made
an instance using the AMI that Richard posted.   keep in mind that this
assumes you have a Plan 9 dev environment and you're generating the kernel
in that environment.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Drn3lm0g7C2zdzOj5x9hvhgVln13JoSx-zs_z1KEztI

-Skip



On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote:

  What's the advantage for you guys to use XEN as apposed to kvm/qemu?

 http://thecloudmarket.com/image/ami-cfa332ff--plan9-fossil





Re: [9fans] Kabini or Raspberry Pi?

2014-07-01 Thread sl
 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Drn3lm0g7C2zdzOj5x9hvhgVln13JoSx-zs_z1KEztI

Do you have a version of this document that is accessible from Plan 9?

sl



Re: [9fans] Kabini or Raspberry Pi?

2014-07-01 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
as soon as the US-Belgium match is over :)

On Jul 1, 2014, at 1:07 PM, s...@9front.org wrote:

 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Drn3lm0g7C2zdzOj5x9hvhgVln13JoSx-zs_z1KEztI
 
 Do you have a version of this document that is accessible from Plan 9?
 
 sl
 



Re: [9fans] Kabini or Raspberry Pi?

2014-07-01 Thread Charles Forsyth
h% ls -l /n/sources/contrib/forsyth/Plan9*
--rw-rw-r-- M 3231 forsyth sys 86727 Jul  1 22:35
/n/sources/contrib/forsyth/Plan9ServeronEC2.pdf

hget http://www.terzarima.net/dist/Plan9ServeronEC2.pdf | page -w


On 1 July 2014 21:07, s...@9front.org wrote:

 
 https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Drn3lm0g7C2zdzOj5x9hvhgVln13JoSx-zs_z1KEztI

 Do you have a version of this document that is accessible from Plan 9?

 sl




Re: [9fans] Kabini or Raspberry Pi?

2014-07-01 Thread sl
 /n/sources/contrib/forsyth/Plan9ServeronEC2.pdf

Thanks!

sl



Re: [9fans] Kabini or Raspberry Pi?

2014-07-01 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Thanks.

 On Jul 1, 2014, at 2:39 PM, Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 h% ls -l /n/sources/contrib/forsyth/Plan9*
 --rw-rw-r-- M 3231 forsyth sys 86727 Jul  1 22:35 
 /n/sources/contrib/forsyth/Plan9ServeronEC2.pdf
 
 hget http://www.terzarima.net/dist/Plan9ServeronEC2.pdf | page -w
 
 
 On 1 July 2014 21:07, s...@9front.org wrote:
  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Drn3lm0g7C2zdzOj5x9hvhgVln13JoSx-zs_z1KEztI
 
 Do you have a version of this document that is accessible from Plan 9?
 
 sl