Re: [9fans] Problems with the SD driver
Why is the manual for partfs in Section 8 (system administration) and not in Section 4 (file servers)? This is the reason why I have overseen it. Would it be reasonable to ask for the manpage to be moved? Thanks, Dante On 31.07.2014 23:16, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: labs usb/disk doesnt implement partitions. you need to run partfs for that. the 9front usb/disk implements partitions just like the kernels devsd. -- cinap
Re: [9fans] Problems with the SD driver
Another file server in Section 8: disksim. On 01.08.2014 11:02, dante wrote: Why is the manual for partfs in Section 8 (system administration) and not in Section 4 (file servers)? This is the reason why I have overseen it. Would it be reasonable to ask for the manpage to be moved? Thanks, Dante On 31.07.2014 23:16, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: labs usb/disk doesnt implement partitions. you need to run partfs for that. the 9front usb/disk implements partitions just like the kernels devsd. -- cinap
Re: [9fans] I want manual of OS
Wow Nicolas, that is beautiful work... did you make a hardcover? On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Lee Fallat ircsurfe...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Nicolas Bercher nberc...@yahoo.fr wrote: Since I like bookbinding I did one by my self: http://tinyurl.com/lb5jzt3 This is awesome.
Re: [9fans] I want manual of OS
On 01/08/2014 14:30, Joseph Stewart wrote: Wow Nicolas, that is beautiful work... did you make a hardcover? No I didn't, though that is possible (and marginally planned) thanks to the two ribbons. Hardcover is another important step and I only did paperback covers for a few other books. I need some training! This is nice to have such feedbacks! Nicolas
Re: [9fans] ODROID-W
On 01/08/2014 04:16, Shane Morris wrote: There are cards available for it that give it wired ethernet and four USB ports Do you mean RPi+-compatible extension cards? Because I didn't see any wired ethernet extension on the ODROID-W page. Nicolas
Re: [9fans] ODROID-W
Isn't the ethernet in all cases provided by USB-ethernet adapter? Perhaps this board is more stable than the rpi. I don't really trust that, but would like to try it out. On 8/1/14, Nicolas Bercher nberc...@yahoo.fr wrote: On 01/08/2014 04:16, Shane Morris wrote: There are cards available for it that give it wired ethernet and four USB ports Do you mean RPi+-compatible extension cards? Because I didn't see any wired ethernet extension on the ODROID-W page. Nicolas
Re: [9fans] I want manual of OS
I On Aug 1, 2014 8:32 AM, Joseph Stewart joseph.stew...@gmail.com wrote: Wow Nicolas, that is beautiful work... did you make a hardcover? On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Lee Fallat ircsurfe...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Nicolas Bercher nberc...@yahoo.fr wrote: Since I like bookbinding I did one by my self: http://tinyurl.com/lb5jzt3 This is awesome.
Re: [9fans] ODROID-W
On 1 August 2014 16:18, Nicolas Bercher nberc...@yahoo.fr wrote: On 01/08/2014 04:16, Shane Morris wrote: There are cards available for it that give it wired ethernet and four USB ports Do you mean RPi+-compatible extension cards? Because I didn't see any wired ethernet extension on the ODROID-W page. It's right there, in the list of Optional accessories: http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G140618854370 -- - yiyus || JGL .
Re: [9fans] ODROID-W
What I'd like to see is a USB-ethernet-wifi adapter, all in one. That would solve quite a few of our problems. Its asking quite a bit though. Has anyone seen this: http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G140383714860 Its a cap touch screen with USB and HDMi interfaces. Runs off 5V, 2A. Before the ODROID-W, I thought the screen would be good for an RPi Plan 9 tablet. Now I know its a good idea. Many thanks! On Sat, Aug 2, 2014 at 2:30 AM, yy yiyu@gmail.com wrote: On 1 August 2014 16:18, Nicolas Bercher nberc...@yahoo.fr wrote: On 01/08/2014 04:16, Shane Morris wrote: There are cards available for it that give it wired ethernet and four USB ports Do you mean RPi+-compatible extension cards? Because I didn't see any wired ethernet extension on the ODROID-W page. It's right there, in the list of Optional accessories: http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G140618854370 -- - yiyus || JGL .
[9fans] Strange VGA thing
A68N-5000 motherboard which I'm using it for vesa mode of1400x1050x16 size. However, there is /dev/realmodemem, but no /dev/realmode. My plan9.ini file has monitor=vesa line. Strange! Why I can have working screen with 1400x1050x16? aux/vga -i says: term% aux/vga -i mkvbe: '/dev/realmode' file does not exist aux/vga: controller not in /lib/vgadb, not vesa 0xC 55 AA 75 E9 0D 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 U.u. 0xC0010 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 C0 01 00 00 00 00 49 42 ..IB 0xC0020 4D 6E 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 04 Mn.. 0xC0030 20 37 36 31 32 39 35 35 32 30 00 00 00 00 00 00 761295520.. 0xC0040 05 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 9C 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 0xC0050 30 37 2F 31 37 2F 31 33 2C 31 37 3A 35 32 3A 30 07/17/13,17:52:0 0xC0060 35 00 00 00 E9 02 03 00 E9 11 03 00 00 00 80 00 5... 0xC0070 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 0xC0080 31 31 33 2D 43 35 33 35 30 30 2D 31 30 35 00 4B 113-C53500-105.K 0xC0090 41 4C 49 4E 44 49 00 50 43 49 5F 45 58 50 52 45 ALINDI.PCI_EXPRE 0xC00A0 53 53 00 44 44 52 33 00 0D 0A 41 4D 44 20 46 75 SS.DDR3...AMD Fu 0xC00B0 73 69 6F 6E 20 4B 61 6C 69 6E 64 69 20 47 65 6E sion Kalindi Gen 0xC00C0 65 72 69 63 20 56 42 49 4F 53 20 20 20 20 20 20 eric VBIOS 0xC00D0 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 0xC00E0 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 0xC00F0 20 20 20 20 20 20 0D 0A 00 0D 0A 20 0D 0A 00 28. ...( dbdumpmode type=vga, size=640x480x1 frequency=25175000 x=640 (0x280), y=480 (0x1E0), z=1 (0x1) ht=800 (0x320), shb=664 (0x298), ehb=760 (0x2F8) shs=664 (0x298), ehs=760 (0x2F8) vt=525 (0x20D), vrs=491 (0x1EB), vre=493 (0x1ED) hsync=0, vsync=0, interlace=0 vga flag Finit|Fsnarf vga misc E3 vga feature 00 vga sequencer03 01 0F 00 06 vga crt 5F 4F 52 9F 53 1F20B 3E - 00 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 1EB 2D1DF 28 001EB1EC C3 -7FF vga graphics 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 0F - FF vga attribute00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 - 08 09 0A 0B 0C 0D 0E 0F 01 FF 0F 00 00 vga virtual 640 480 vga panning off vga apz 0 vga linear 0 Kenji PS. 9front-ow...@ttr.inri.net is working?
Re: [9fans] Strange VGA thing
On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 08:48:34AM +0900, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: A68N-5000 motherboard which I'm using it for vesa mode of1400x1050x16 size. However, there is /dev/realmodemem, but no /dev/realmode. realmodemem file is provided by the '#P' kernel device. realmode file is provided by aux/realemu. in /rc/bin/termrc, aux/realemu is run if $monitor is vesa. strange that it does not. maybe realemu had an error. you can try to run it by hand on the console. there are debugging options you can provide to it. PS. 9front-ow...@ttr.inri.net is working? http://9front.org/lists.html pgpneRfcqhSm_.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [9fans] Strange VGA thing
A68N-5000 motherboard which I'm using it for vesa mode of1400x1050x16 size.
However, there is /dev/realmodemem, but no /dev/realmode.
My plan9.ini file has monitor=vesa line.
Strange!
Why I can have working screen with 1400x1050x16?
The /rc/bin/termrc script does this:
@{
rfork n
if(~ $monitor vesa)
aux/realemu
aux/vga -l $vgasize
}
so realemu is most likely not running in your namespace.
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Re: [9fans] Strange VGA thing
The /rc/bin/termrc script does this:
@{
rfork n
if(~ $monitor vesa)
aux/realemu
aux/vga -l $vgasize
}
so realemu is most likely not running in your namespace.
9atom does similar. this has caused a few questions, so i feel
that it's really not worth the trouble to save a mb or two. gotchas
are expensive. i'll probablly change this when i get a chance.
- erik
Re: [9fans] Problems with the SD driver
On Fri Aug 1 05:05:39 EDT 2014, subscripti...@posteo.eu wrote: Why is the manual for partfs in Section 8 (system administration) and not in Section 4 (file servers)? This is the reason why I have overseen it. imho, it's a mistake to think that all file servers must be listed in section 4. some file servers are listed in section 3, because they're in the kernel. some are listed in section 8 because they are adminstrative commands, that happen to take the form of a file server. we can argue semantics, but either way it is done one ends up with the same dilemma that not all x command are listed in section of(x). - erik
Re: [9fans] AMD A68-N5000 kabini mother
cpu% paqfs /boot/bootfs.paq bootfs: Mon Jul 28 18:45:56 GMT 2014 fingerprint: ce48b5387fa103247e64c81531fd49f129526c7a cpu% cd /n/paq cpu% du -n 70210 ./386/bin/9660srv 161885./386/bin/awk [...] [...] 0 ./lib 3059482 . cinap, how would you assess the tradeoffs in the 9front boot process? on the one hand, it is largely managed by an rc script, but on the other, the rc script is fixed, and not loaded dynamicly (such as via tftp) and a large number of executables are hauled into the kernel. - erik
Re: [9fans] AMD A68-N5000 kabini mother
the bootfs.paq with all the binaries is 1.5mb. and it has support for all the fileservers and network booting. we just reuse the rc scripts and binaries that are already there and not trying to make up special solutions just for booting to save a bit of memory. and having self contained rc environment in the kernel is great as it lets you debug the hardware before you have a working driver. (or you can instruct someone to run some rc commands to troubleshoot a system without him having the capability of building a new kernel (because theres no driver yet)). instead of having half broken smarts in the bootloader (like passing half the partitions from loader to kernel) which needs to duplicate all the drivers, we can just do that with the kernels drivers and rc scrips. the kernel doesnt care how it got loaded. it gets to the same environment every time regardless of who loaded it. i can boot terminal that mounts the root filesystem over wpa encrypted wifi network and there are no hacks there. it just runs the same programs early that you would normally run from termrc. if you want to make a specialized low memory overhead kernel that will only work on your machines then you still can by specifying different files and /boot/boot in your kernel configuration. -- cinap
Re: [9fans] Strange VGA thing
On Sat, Aug 02, 2014 at 08:48:34AM +0900, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: realmodemem file is provided by the '#P' kernel device. realmode file is provided by aux/realemu. 9/pc/devvesa.c has both of them. My interesting poit is why I have 1400x1050x16 display which should be vesa mide. Kenji
Re: [9fans] Strange VGA thing
realmodemem file is provided by the '#P' kernel device. realmode file is provided by aux/realemu. 9/pc/devvesa.c has both of them. My interesting poit is why I have 1400x1050x16 display which should be vesa mide. The workings of realemu are explained in the realemu(8) man page. Basically, the realemu program provides the /dev/realmode synthetic file. sl
Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans mailing list
I learned about plan9 a couple days ago, and I'm impressed. But I do have a couple questions: A lot of information (a links to more) is collected here: http://code.google.com/p/plan9front/wiki/fqa sl
