Re: [9fans] wstat and atomic directory change

2015-02-04 Thread sl
> But why we don't have Tmove for example? http://9front.org/img/tmove.jpg sl

Re: [9fans] wstat and atomic directory change

2015-02-04 Thread sl
> But why we don't have Tmove for example? http://9front.org/img/9tmove01.png sl

Re: [9fans] wstat and atomic directory change

2015-02-04 Thread lucio
> I'm wondering for a > synthetic filesystem in which, when you move a folder in a special > directory, something magic happens. "Magic" is overrated. Lucio.

Re: [9fans] wstat and atomic directory change

2015-02-04 Thread lucio
> But why we don't have Tmove for example? Because its semantics are much, much more complex and the users need to be aware of the difference. Imagine a Tmove that transfers your entire disk contents to the cloud: would you like it to be perceived as trivial? What happens if you interrupt it? W

Re: [9fans] adm

2015-02-04 Thread Christophe DAMAS
Richard Miller <9fans hamnavoe.com> writes: > > > I need to access to /adm/timezone to change the timezone. > > > > How do I log as user adm ? > > To change /adm/timezone you only need to be part of group adm. If > you're "logged in" (ie booted) as glenda, just add glenda temporarily > to th

Re: [9fans] adm "user" on plan9 raspberry pi

2015-02-04 Thread Christophe DAMAS
On 2015-02-04 05:42:12 +, Bakul Shah said: On Wed, 04 Feb 2015 01:17:00 GMT christophe DAMAS wrote: I need to access to /adm/timezone to change the timezone. How do I log as user adm ? I use the standard plan9.iso image downloaded form ATT web site. Do you mean 9pi.img? I have not se

Re: [9fans] GUI for navgating the file tree

2015-02-04 Thread Friedrich Psiorz
:) no. Am 04.02.2015 um 22:59 schrieb Kurt H Maier: > Is this an acme fork? > > khm > >

Re: [9fans] GUI for navgating the file tree

2015-02-04 Thread Kurt H Maier
Is this an acme fork? khm

Re: [9fans] wstat and atomic directory change

2015-02-04 Thread Giacomo Tesio
Useless? No I did not mean this. (and sorry, I wasn't in any way sarcastic, I'm just trying to understand 9p's design a bit deeper) I mean that to realize a truly uniform interface, directories should be writable with Twrite, so that we would not need messages like Tcreate and Tremove (and possibly

Re: [9fans] GUI for navgating the file tree

2015-02-04 Thread Lee Fallat
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 3:27 PM, Friedrich Psiorz wrote: > Hi 9fans > > I'm writing a little GUI for file system navigation … it's all but > finished, but > clicking on directories works, so if somebody would like to try, I'd be > delighted! > > If you have any comments, on the program, on the cod

[9fans] GUI for navgating the file tree

2015-02-04 Thread Friedrich Psiorz
Hi 9fans I'm writing a little GUI for file system navigation … it's all but finished, but clicking on directories works, so if somebody would like to try, I'd be delighted! If you have any comments, on the program, on the code, etc. let me know. If you have hg, just hg clone https://bitbucket.or

Re: [9fans] wstat and atomic directory change

2015-02-04 Thread erik quanstrom
> you can consider doing it out of band; e.g. a new fossil console command. > On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:30 AM Giacomo Tesio wrote: > > > And unfortunately I cannot figure out any alternative, either. :-( > > > > An interesting point is: why directory entries can be read but cannot be > > written?

Re: [9fans] wstat and atomic directory change

2015-02-04 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
you can consider doing it out of band; e.g. a new fossil console command. On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:30 AM Giacomo Tesio wrote: > And unfortunately I cannot figure out any alternative, either. :-( > > An interesting point is: why directory entries can be read but cannot be > written? I mean we use

Re: [9fans] wstat and atomic directory change

2015-02-04 Thread Giacomo Tesio
And unfortunately I cannot figure out any alternative, either. :-( An interesting point is: why directory entries can be read but cannot be written? I mean we use Tcreate to create a new file in a dir, while to be uniform with files, we should use a Twrite, appending a corresponding stat structure

Re: [9fans] wstat and atomic directory change

2015-02-04 Thread erik quanstrom
> You are right. > But since protocol customizations goes against that same ideal, what's the > plan9 way of dealing with a feature X (in this specific case atomic file > moves)? > > > > this requires delving into the namespace to tell that the directories are > > still under the > > same mount,

Re: [9fans] adm "user" on plan9 raspberry pi

2015-02-04 Thread Rudolf Sykora
On 4 February 2015 at 10:52, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: >> I need to access to /adm/timezone to change the timezone. >> >> How do I log as user adm ? > > To change /adm/timezone you only need to be part of group adm. If > you're "logged in" (ie booted) as glenda, just add glenda te

Re: [9fans] adm "user" on plan9 raspberry pi

2015-02-04 Thread lucio
> To change /adm/timezone you only need to be part of group adm. If > you're "logged in" (ie booted) as glenda, just add glenda temporarily > to the group using the fossil console (as current hostowner, glenda > has authority over the local fossil). On my server(s), "9fs fossil" mounts fossil -AW

Re: [9fans] [Off topic] Raspberry Pi 2 gets the evil OS

2015-02-04 Thread Andrés Domínguez
2015-02-04 8:41 GMT+01:00 : > > Raspberry Pi 2 gets the evil OS Raspberry Pi has always supported Linux.

Re: [9fans] adm "user" on plan9 raspberry pi

2015-02-04 Thread Richard Miller
> I need to access to /adm/timezone to change the timezone. > > How do I log as user adm ? To change /adm/timezone you only need to be part of group adm. If you're "logged in" (ie booted) as glenda, just add glenda temporarily to the group using the fossil console (as current hostowner, glenda

Re: [9fans] wstat and atomic directory change

2015-02-04 Thread Giacomo Tesio
2015-02-04 4:51 GMT+01:00 erik quanstrom : > On Tue Feb 3 01:01:02 PST 2015, st...@quintile.net wrote: > > > the control file idea is a neat way of doing atomic moves. > > > > control files are a good way of dealing with all kinds of exceptional > behavior. > > but ... > > to be fair, this goes a