Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for?
I've been using it with Klong ( http://t3x.org/klong/index.html ) lately which supports plan9 natively. On Sat, Jun 16, 2018 at 6:39 AM, Ole-Hjalmar Kristensen wrote: > I cannot really say I am using Plan9 for anything serious, although I have > both Plan9 and 9Front running on a couple of old laptops. I keep them around > mainly to see if I can grok the ideas and maybe steal some of them :-) > > But I run the Plan9port tools on both Linux and Solaris, and occasionally > Inferno on Windows, when I want a sane environment there. Acme is my main > editor these days. The 'everything is text' approach works very well when > developing on multiple paltforms (Solaris, Linux, BSD, Windows). In Acme, > the left button combined with the plumber is really usefull when jumping > from a debug printout in the log to the source code. I run Vac/Venti on > Linux as my backup system both at home and at work. > > If I ever get some spare time, I intend to set up a cron job to replicate > the contents between the two Venti servers. > > > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 5:53 AM, 刘宇宝 wrote: >> >> Compared to "not for you", "don't care", "intend to not be successful", I >> like more the topic of cat-v irc channel on freenode set by aiju: "fun >> fact: you can use multiple operating systems at the same time". >> >> Certainly Plan 9 can't replace Linux/macOS/BSD/Windows, I'm still curious >> its upper bound for a sensible daily usage, and the best practice from you >> happy experienced Plan 9 users. >> >> I checked mail headers in this mailing list, seems all use Apple Mail, >> iPhone Mail, WebMail with AJAX, Gmail(a lot), ProtonMail, these emails went >> through Postfix and Exim servers, probably on Linux. >> >> In great harmony, we use kinds of operating system and kinds of software >> on them. >> >> Regards, >> Yubao Liu >> >> > On Jun 14, 2018, at 10:53 AM, N. S. Montanaro wrote: >> > >> > I think a lot of people discover Plan 9 and want it to be something it >> > isn’t, rather than stumble upon it out of necessity. As the FQA says, “Plan >> > 9 is not for you." >> >
Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for?
I cannot really say I am using Plan9 for anything serious, although I have both Plan9 and 9Front running on a couple of old laptops. I keep them around mainly to see if I can grok the ideas and maybe steal some of them :-) But I run the Plan9port tools on both Linux and Solaris, and occasionally Inferno on Windows, when I want a sane environment there. Acme is my main editor these days. The 'everything is text' approach works very well when developing on multiple paltforms (Solaris, Linux, BSD, Windows). In Acme, the left button combined with the plumber is really usefull when jumping from a debug printout in the log to the source code. I run Vac/Venti on Linux as my backup system both at home and at work. If I ever get some spare time, I intend to set up a cron job to replicate the contents between the two Venti servers. On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 5:53 AM, 刘宇宝 wrote: > Compared to "not for you", "don't care", "intend to not be successful", I > like more the topic of cat-v irc channel on freenode set by aiju: "fun > fact: you can use multiple operating systems at the same time". > > Certainly Plan 9 can't replace Linux/macOS/BSD/Windows, I'm still curious > its upper bound for a sensible daily usage, and the best practice from you > happy experienced Plan 9 users. > > I checked mail headers in this mailing list, seems all use Apple Mail, > iPhone Mail, WebMail with AJAX, Gmail(a lot), ProtonMail, these emails > went through Postfix and Exim servers, probably on Linux. > > In great harmony, we use kinds of operating system and kinds of software > on them. > > Regards, > Yubao Liu > > > On Jun 14, 2018, at 10:53 AM, N. S. Montanaro wrote: > > > > I think a lot of people discover Plan 9 and want it to be something it > isn’t, rather than stumble upon it out of necessity. As the FQA says, “Plan > 9 is not for you." > >
Re: [9fans] What are you using Plan 9 for?
On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 04:58:35PM -0700, Iruatã Souza wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 12:02 PM, Mark van Atten > wrote: > > On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 8:13 AM, Mart Zirnask wrote: > > > >> I'm a part-time writer and radio producer with no CS background, so I > >> even use this machine for producing 1-hour radio shows for Estonian > >> Public Broadcasting. (Thank you, Non Daw!: http://non.tuxfamily.org). > >> > >> I just love the "zen" of sam (and, occasionally, Acme) as a writing > >> tool. Also, the idea of "everything is a file" kind of grows on you, > >> intellectually. > > > > I'm a philosopher and use sam and acme every day to write papers > > in LaTeX. > > > > With his KerTeX project, Thierry Laronde has done, and is doing, great > > work for TeX on Plan 9. > > It would be great to have LuaTeX as well. > > > > Did you (or Thierry) tried running LuaTeX? I have "ported" lua ages > ago to Plan 9 and it was pretty easy, but I know nothing about LuaTex > internals or the relation between both. I personnaly have not tried. The main problem are the dependencies. If it depends only on C and WEB, it should be easy. If secondary dependencies (like generating PDF instead of DVI) draw C++ libraries in the way... FWIW, at the moment I think that, if I put aside the conversion to utf-8 as input (with dir of 256 glyphes fonts), the main lack is the inability to display the result without depending on gs(1). So I'd like to have, for the different OSes, a rendering of the DVI. Then extend DVI so that it supports the primitives needed by MetaPOST (leading to a MetaDVI). And then a front end for a dvi2x driver. This does not mean that I exclude LuaTeX per se. I have to see and I have to find slots of time (and to try to fit a task in the actual slots so that "something" is finished---I have already several things kerTeX related started but none finished...). Best, -- Thierry Laronde http://www.kergis.com/ http://www.sbfa.fr/ Key fingerprint = 0FF7 E906 FBAF FE95 FD89 250D 52B1 AE95 6006 F40C
