Re: [9fans] I prefer cropping images in Plan 9
On 7/21/18, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: > > To be fair, if you're using a command line, you might as well be using > ImageMagick (not criticizing your points or anything, just playing devil's > advocate). > Without ever looking under he bonnet, I got the impression that IM is the single utility that is updated every time I dare go near an Ubuntu update, which of course is far more frequently than I would prefer. And, equally superficially, these all seem to be security updates. You'd think after thirty years or so, the community would have considered adjusting IM's security model? Lucio.
Re: [9fans] I prefer cropping images in Plan 9
On Sat, Jul 21, 2018, at 4:20 PM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: > On July 21, 2018 8:21:10 AM "Ethan A. Gardener" wrote: > > > I just had to crop a bunch of images in the Gimp, and recalled how much I > > prefer doing it in Plan 9; it's so much less frustrating. In the Gimp, it's > > either a matter of estimating numbers (for a quick, casual job on visual > > media), or select, copy, paste into new window. In the latter case, when > > you save it, you have to find the directory and the file8749832710473name; > > not fun. Also, I'm not practised at this; I'm no good at cropping with my > > brain, so I had to zoom, resize the window, and select very carefully so > > selecting didn't move the image in the window. > > > > In Plan 9, which isn't even made for the job, it's not without its > > frustrations, but it's got fewer of them than the Gimp. Open the image in > > page; use the plumber or otherwise enter the full path so you can > > copy/paste it later. Zoom and adjust the window as you like. In another > > window, grep for the filename (or the directory, or whatever,) in > > /dev/wsys/*/label, and type cd and send the directory part. (Of course, > > copy/paste or send the file name.) Then: > > crop -i 4 window | topng > path/filename.png > > This is the part where you'll likely want to copy the full original path. > > That's one done. On to the next image, which presumably is open in the same > > instance of page so you don't have to cd or anything. `cat label` to get > > its full name and path. (It's possible only 9front's page puts the path in > > the label, I don't know.) > > To be fair, if you're using a command line, you might as well be using > ImageMagick (not criticizing your points or anything, just playing devil's > advocate). `crop -i 4` is just to get rid of the window border. The actual selection of the region of image to crop to, in Plan 9, has nothing to do with the command line.
Re: [9fans] I prefer cropping images in Plan 9
On Sat, Jul 21, 2018, at 5:17 PM, hiro wrote: > > do this, I think one thing that could maybe be interesting would be for the > > files to potentially contain rich data, not just plain text? Kind of like > > TempleOS or systemd's journal does. > > Rich data? You mean like... images? > Ha ha! :) Images in the terminal would be fun, but would have to wait until we have more than vt220/char cell display. That means it's going to get implemented under Plan 9 first, most likely. Forgot to say in other mail: Nothing wrong with storing structured pipe data in a file, but I'd like the data to be mostly utf-8 text to ease debugging and byte ordering. -- The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne. -- Chaucer
Re: [9fans] I prefer cropping images in Plan 9
On Sat, Jul 21, 2018, at 4:20 PM, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: > > While I'm replying here, might as well point out that, if you're going to > do this, I think one thing that could maybe be interesting would be for the > files to potentially contain rich data, not just plain text? Kind of like > TempleOS or systemd's journal does. I had some idea of structured pipes, but that idea's been on the shelf so long it's synapse-rotted. I was thinking of ls ps and others outputting key-value pairs, fields of which could then be selected by name. I suppose that would make for a relatively complex terminal, but it could also mean you could select different fields in the terminal after a slow job completes. This is somewhere in the top 5 things to work on, after the text editor and portability. > Google Groups and Freelist are the best. Google Groups has a terrible UI > but also has better spam filters IME. Thanks -- The lyf so short, the craft so long to lerne. -- Chaucer
