Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

On Sun, Nov 20, 2016 at 09:19:13PM -0500, Wes Kussmaul wrote: > > > On 11/19/2016 05:27 PM, David Arnold wrote: > > On 17 Nov 2016, at 12:18, Kurt H Maier wrote: > >> On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 07:55:38PM -0500, Charlie Lin wrote: > > > >>> Als

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 10:26:36PM -0600, Ryan Gonzalez wrote: > ...which got shut down earlier this year: > > https://opensource.googleblog.com/2015/03/farewell-to-google-code.html?m=1 > This must have come to a shock to their users! I wonder what they did

Re: [9fans] Hack font for plan9

On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 02:30:08PM +1300, Andrew Simmons wrote: > What size grapefruit are we talking here? Using grapefruit bought from my > local supermarket > (http://www.paknsave.co.nz/upper-north-island/auckland/royal-oak/) I could > fit at most 5 vertically, 7 horizontally into the screen

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 5th Edition

On Wed, Nov 16, 2016 at 07:21:14PM -0500, Charlie Lin wrote: > Add one more: EFI support > Also, can Plan 9 be booted on Open Firmware? (Used on at least Sun SPARC > workstations) > > On Nov 16, 2016 5:27 PM, "Charlie Lin" wrote: > > > Any plans for Plan 9 5th edition? >

Re: [9fans] Job interview questions

On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 07:03:24PM +1300, Andrew Simmons wrote: > I’ve just been asked to respond to the following. Apart from number 8, where > the answer is clearly “because they are clinically insane”, I am at a loss. > Any hints from the group? > Happy to help. > 1) What is the

Re: [9fans] Question re source trees

On Mon, Oct 31, 2016 at 10:23:18AM +, Richard Miller wrote: > > Sorry, I'm away from home at present. I'll email you a copy of the > bluetooth source later this week. > > The pi3 wifi driver will go into my contrib this week too. I'm sorry > for the delay. > No apologies! I just wanted

Re: [9fans] Question re source trees

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 11:54:03AM +0100, Richard Miller wrote: > > > > I can also supply bluetooth code for the pi3 if anyone is interested. > > > > > > > I am interested. Will it be part of your next pi release? > > Probably not for a while. I would have to write some man pages first. Is your

Re: [9fans] Question re source trees

On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 09:08:27AM +0100, Richard Miller wrote: > > I can also supply bluetooth code for the pi3 if anyone is interested. > I am interested. Will it be part of your next pi release? khm

Re: [9fans] 9front 5492 1919

On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 04:56:39PM -0700, Jules Merit wrote: > Go away Die NSA release fails to go beyond... > "759M memory: 256M kernel data. 503M user, 1128M swap" See section 9.5.2 of the 9front FQA: http://fqa.9front.org/fqa9.html#9.5.2 Further troubleshooting should probably happen on the

Re: [9fans] Distros

On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 07:39:31PM +0200, Andrés Domínguez wrote: > 2016-09-11 18:40 GMT+02:00 Benjamin Huntsman > : > > with amd64 support? > > the rpi image > I predict suffering. Benjamin: I wouldn't get too hung up on amd64 specifically. Labs, 9atom,

Re: [9fans] Plan9 and VMs

On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 03:00:26PM -0700, Bakul Shah wrote: > > Don't keep updating it. Problem solved! Our problem was that each individual user who reported a problem on vbox was running an apparently unique version -- I don't think we ever had two trouble reports that matched each other, or

Re: [9fans] Musings on Interfaces

On Fri, Sep 02, 2016 at 09:19:48AM -0500, Steven Stallion wrote: > > Strange... Option+click works great for me when I don't have a > 3-button USB mouse plugged in (they make these too you know). Chording > using the keyboard is quite pleasant as well. > We call this 'typing'

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 12:55:09PM -0500, Steven Stallion wrote: > Perhaps it's better to be known for the occasional masturbatory > session than for being an incorrigible troll. You know we forked the operating system, right? I know it's hard to keep track of things since google reader went

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 10:52:31PM -0700, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > plan 9 as more than a masturbatory aid. > > put up or shut up: Sorry, I can't win uptime games, as the kernel I use is maintained. To my great regret, instead of six hundred 50MFLOPS computers I don't use, I only have three or

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

On Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 12:51:39AM +, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > some here still prefer hammer/chisel/stone to new-fangled > quill/ink/parchment Before I die, I'll figure out why it offends some of you so much that a few of us use plan 9 as more than a masturbatory aid. Meanwhile, I don't

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 04:58:18PM -0500, Steven Stallion wrote: > On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 4:41 PM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > > i'd like it if people would stick to one medium: i don't want to be > > forced to use a web browser to participate in discussions on this > > mailing list. > >

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

On Tue, Aug 30, 2016 at 05:01:36PM +, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > I've been thinking about setting up a meetup for 9fans in Seattle area. > There seems to be renewed interest (or perhaps it's my wishful thinking). I regret to inform you I now live within driving distance of Seattle. Please

Re: [9fans] Is 9Fans dead or alive

On Tue, Aug 23, 2016 at 12:05:10AM -0700, David Walther wrote: > Then the whiskey wore off. [citation needed]

Re: [9fans] Chords, ^, _, ^B and scroll with mouse wheel in p9p sam

On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 11:16:07PM +0100, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: > The one guy who loves this feature uses that IBM > mouse with a trackpoint instead of a scroll wheel. There are two of us. khm

Re: [9fans] problem with acme on 9front

On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 11:28:09AM -0700, Rob Pike wrote: > If that was meant as a dis, you obviously haven't been to New York lately. > Merely an observation that editing text is a minor subset of acme's functionality. When I dis things, you will not be confused about my intent. khm

Re: [9fans] problem with acme on 9front

On Sat, May 21, 2016 at 10:36:44AM -0700, erik quanstrom wrote: > > This is tantamount to saying acme is superior because you are better at > > acme. [...] > > c'mon man. you follow this with several paragraphs of opinion which appear > to say that acme is not better because you don't like it.

Re: [9fans] problem with acme on 9front

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 08:42:54PM +0100, Charles Forsyth wrote: > > Any experienced acme user will quickly start banging the desk in > frustration if thrown back into sam. > Incredibly clumsy by comparison; not fluid. sam -d is useful for certain > types of scripting. This is tantamount to

Re: [9fans] The Plan 9/"right" way to do Facebook

On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 11:40:03PM +, cigar562hfsp952f...@icebubble.org wrote: > Greetings, 9fans! > Your post advocates a (x) technical ( ) legislative ( ) market-based ( ) vigilante approach to social networking. Your idea will not work. Here is why it won't work. (One or more of the

Re: [9fans] rc exec error behaviour

On Tue, Feb 02, 2016 at 06:37:52PM -0600, Sean Hinchee wrote: > Go 1.5.1 built and is running on 9Front/amd64 I thought, but doesn't on > 9Front/386? That's correct, but the actual point is that it's still full of weird bugs and is not 100% functional, even after it builds. Doesn't stop some

Re: [9fans] bug or feature ? --- ip/ping -6

On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 03:05:33PM +, Steve Simon wrote: > If I where redesigning ping I wouldn't repeat any info that is common on each > line - I.e. ip addresses or the column titles: rtt, ave etc. > > consider plan9's ps(1) which has no column titles. they are described in the > man page

Re: [9fans] off topic - free signed SSL/TLS certs

On Thu, Nov 05, 2015 at 01:27:49PM +0200, Costin Chirvasuta wrote: > StartSSL: https://konklone.com/post/switch-to-https-now-for-free > Free for non-comercial purposes. I believe you need to renew every year. StartSSL Free is free for commercial use as well. khm

Re: [9fans] RUDP and/or others

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 05:35:40PM -0700, erik quanstrom wrote: > > for clarity, i was neither recommending or not recommending rudp, as i know > nothing about the problem to be solved except for the tidbits "fpga" and > "vnc", > neither of which are something i've spent much time with. > >

Re: [9fans] RUDP and/or others

On Sun, Oct 18, 2015 at 04:59:44PM -0700, erik quanstrom wrote: > On Sun Oct 18 16:16:59 PDT 2015, 9...@9netics.com wrote: > > > Anyone know of a leaner reliable datagram protocol? I know I saw one a > > > year ago, but I just can't remember what it was! > > > > are you looking for Internet Link

Re: [9fans] Web Gardens

On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 07:10:01PM -0700, erik quanstrom wrote: > > i'd recommend a google search > > https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant=1=2=UTF-8#q=web%20garden > I deeply apologize for failing to summarize to your satisfaction. I have bookmarked the url you provided and

Re: [9fans] Web Gardens

On Mon, Oct 12, 2015 at 05:57:16PM +1300, Andrew Simmons wrote: > As a diversion from the discussion of the existential essence of Javascript, > could I ask the group for a view on the meaning of the term "Web Garden"? > I was just asked about this in a job interview. This is a concept that

Re: [9fans] libframe Go port

On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 10:29:06AM -0700, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > no need. just use David Hoskin's HTML5 devdraw: > > https://bitbucket.org/dhoskin/9webdraw that *is* a javascript library. khm

Re: [9fans] libframe Go port

On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 11:05:04AM -0700, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > it is HTML5 (which includes JavaScript) by virtue of the fact that i needs > WebSockets support. HTML5 does not include javascript. khm

Re: [9fans] libframe Go port

On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 11:38:15AM -0700, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > yet 9webdraw requires HTML5 features; so it *IS NOT* just javascript (i > think this was your original "contribution" to the conversation) condolences on your tireless devotion to denying javascript is javascript. khm

Re: [9fans] off topic - a good Git reference

On Fri, Oct 02, 2015 at 11:56:47PM +0200, a.regenf...@gmx.de wrote: > >Mercurial works. > If you have got an installed python. that's pretty much universally the case for mercurial, yes. khm

Re: [9fans] off topic - a good Git reference

On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 02:18:20PM -0300, Tiago Natel wrote: > is there someone else interested in write a git tool for plan 9 ? > > []'s This has been written. You just need to fill out a Secret Plan 9 Super Secret Society application and find three Bilderbergs to vouch for you. khm

Re: [9fans] pretty cool

On Mon, Sep 28, 2015 at 07:31:00PM -0600, Kim Shrier wrote: > > First they ignore you, > then they laugh at you, > then they fight you, > then you win.* Ghandi got it wrong. There's no sequence -- it's all four at once. Forever. khm

Re: [9fans] joke's on us

On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 07:59:44AM -0700, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > Plan 9 is now popular enough to make fun of: > > https://www.zulip.org/clients.html super depressed there's no powerful open source group chat with rich desktop notifications added to the experience. I'm going to go complain

Re: [9fans] acme search backwards

On Thu, Sep 03, 2015 at 07:14:58AM -0700, erik quanstrom wrote: > somehow I thought that was going to be the response, but that's not really > true unless acme has been rewritten on the lower level kbd model. patches > that model also introduces user space kbd control, so good luck using it

Re: [9fans] github blob exchange

Quoting Ryan Gonzalez rym...@gmail.com: I saw GitHub and Plan 9 together and immediately heard angels singing. :) A funeral dirge? khm

Re: [9fans] Has Linux jumped the shark?

Quoting Prof Brucee prof.bru...@gmail.com: I just quoted cat-v - shoot me. ONE OF US

Re: [9fans] Gawk in 9front-ports

Quoting erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: i'm confused. wasn't there also an effort to un-apeify the one true awk? Yes, but as usual, we were shouted down by mac users. khm

Re: [9fans] thank you

Quoting a.regenf...@gmx.de: (uh oh, am i going to get bashed for this?) Nah, instead you'll get bashed for sending an HTML email. khm

Re: [9fans] drawterm source?

Quoting erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: so why do we have so many un-coordinated versions of drawterm? because DVCS programs have solved all the problems preventing people from forking software for a single patch, then abandoning it forever khm

Re: [9fans] drawterm source?

Quoting lu...@proxima.alt.za: talent is to break the rules (or at least to swim against the stream). What rules? What stream? Are there even enough plan 9 users on earth to generate a stream with a current strong enough to swim against? khm

Re: [9fans] Wildly off-topic

Quoting Skip Tavakkolian 9...@9netics.com: at one point there was a web page with images of many (maybe all) KR C covers from various prints and translations. i think it was a page that dmr had created (or perhaps bwk, i can't remember exactly). i can't seem to find it now. This list gets

Re: [9fans] Wildly off-topic

Quoting Andrew Simmons kod...@gmail.com: So my question is, did there ever exist an edition of KR in that Quoting Andrew Simmons kod...@gmail.com: Thanks, but it seems as if that web page is for the 2nd edition. ok, still yes. The linked page is for all editions. khm

Re: [9fans] inequality testing in shell

Quoting Neven Sajko nsa...@gmail.com: Why doesn't the plan9 test program have features for checking inequalities (i.e. greater than etc.)? What do you guys do when you want to test for inequality? I use test(1) which does, in fact, support these features, as described in the man page. khm

Re: [9fans] Ports tree for Plan 9

Quoting lu...@proxima.alt.za: It is the Plan 9 Way (TM) to avoid nested inclusion of header files, although I guess the APE may be exempted. while I agree it's not very plan-9-like, the posix standard is horrible and broken and nobody should be surprised that the easy way to implement it

Re: [9fans] Ports tree for Plan 9

Quoting arn...@skeeve.com: BWK has said that malloc affects the performance of his awk; I think it's in his README file. Yes, it was explained to me that plan 9 malloc does useful things instead of just shoving things into the first available hole like APE malloc. I'm reasonably certain

Re: [9fans] Ports tree for Plan 9

Quoting erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: instead of guessing, you could see if the pool library's checks are really a bottleneck. it is straightforward to add header and tail magic and the callerpc stuff to ape malloc and run the comparsion again. otherwise, it seems far more likely

Re: [9fans] Ports tree for Plan 9

Quoting Kurt H Maier k...@sciops.net: Paul wrote it from scratch. No he didn't; he started with Boyd's awk. Been a while since I looked at the commit history. Sorry. khm

Re: [9fans] Ports tree for Plan 9

Quoting lu...@proxima.alt.za: does anyone want to help test pap's native awk? Build it and they'll come :-) URL? Is it portable? How carefully was it ported? It may be worth twisting Aaron's arm, he may well have a test suite for GAWK that can be used here? Lucio. Paul wrote it from

Re: [9fans] Ports tree for Plan 9

Quoting erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: i don't understand this. It is a personal preference not rooted in any technological excuses. pretty difficult to do if there is a desire to use git or hg. does hgfs use APE? I haven't investigated too closely. khm

Re: [9fans] Ports tree for Plan 9

Quoting erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: On Wed May 27 12:51:19 PDT 2015, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: A potential bug in APE sys/wait.h : the header does not make sure that pid_t has been defined. Compiling sbase on Plan9/APE ended up in situations where there were lots of

Re: [9fans] 3d Glenda

Quoting Andrés Domínguez andres...@gmail.com: Does anyone have a 3d model of Glenda? http://glenda.cat-v.org/gallery/stuffed-glenda.jpg

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

Quoting Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com: http://felloff.net/usr/cinap_lenrek/aijuboard/ http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/014/416/X2R4UMUE536Z3WIALA7SKNVKP4RXX22Y.jpeg GOOD NEWS https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/aijuboard khm

Re: [9fans] using git

Quoting Devon H. O'Dell devon.od...@gmail.com: 2015-03-19 14:46 GMT-07:00 Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com: servant of 9fans → loathed → cursed → saint It can (as is probably true in my case) also just stop at either loathed or cursed. You can skip steps, too! Non serviam. khm

Re: [9fans] ken cc for linux

Quoting Ryan Gonzalez rym...@gmail.com: I wouldn't say it suddenly vanished, though. A quick search shows some were predicting this would happen. Lots of major projects have moved to GitHub or Bitbucket. It was obvious it was dying when every google project started unassing the site last

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

Quoting hiro 23h...@gmail.com: Do the RPI2s break very fast or why is the warranty such an issue? Apparently you can crash one with a light bulb: http://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28t=99042 khm

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

Quoting erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: does anyone have a picture of this board? If you're asking for technical purposes, there's a render at http://9front.org/img/aijuboard.png but I'm not sure that's the final cut. If you're asking for physical proof of its existence, one of the

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

Quoting erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: i was not thinking along those lines. :-( i just wanted to see a picture of the board. the render is nice, but the toy budget is not so large. I did spend a bit of time trowling through IRC logs; I could have sworn aiju had posted a photo of

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 2 Model B

Quoting Steven Stallion sstall...@gmail.com: What's 9front? Medium- to low-quality mushroom cloud computing project designed to vandalize treasured artwork. Every interaction I've had with the dev team has been awful. khm

Re: [9fans] GUI for navgating the file tree

Is this an acme fork? khm

Re: [9fans] OLPC machines

Quoting Anthony Sorace a...@9srv.net: There is at least somewhat more current work than that. I have an XO-1 and an XO-1.5 if anyone wants me to test an image. I also have an XO-4 but that's some kind of arm game with SDIO wifi that may or may not be workable. khm

Re: [9fans] 9 Atom - installation troubles

Quoting erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: On Sat Dec 6 05:38:15 PST 2014, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: smtp=host!987 Too clever! I'm not sure it would work, though, because in /sys/src/upas/smtp/mxdial.c the invocation is explicitly: addr = netmkaddr(addr, 0, smtp); this

Re: [9fans] Porting plan9

Quoting Steven Stallion sstall...@gmail.com: FWIW, u-boot is not a net-negative at all. For SoC's it simplifies boot significantly - there is zero reason to eschew the functionality it brings. Instead, I'll recommend eschewing hardware that requires circus tricks to load a kernel. khm

Re: [9fans] Porting plan9

Quoting Steven Stallion sstall...@gmail.com: Clearly you've never worked on hardware. No, thank Christ, my conscience is clean. Instead I work on software, and uboot is a fine example of well it builds on my laptop development paradigms. Plenty glad I don't have to screw with such nonsense

Re: [9fans] Porting plan9

Quoting erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: while i don't agree that u-boot is nice, i do agree with steve's point, which i understood to be that hardware is messy, and it's hard to write software that isn't a tad messy to deal with this. steve has a lot of experience with hardware, and

Re: [9fans] running plan9 : an ideal setup?

Quoting dante subscripti...@posteo.eu: - 9Front: comes with the experimental hjfs by default, which got corrupt sooner or later on my setup 9front defaults to cwfs64x, not hjfs. khm

Re: [9fans] github.com/9fans + plan9port on git

Quoting Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com: written in Go, and not gimmicky with cartoon advertising everywhere. So, written in Go, but unlike Go? khm

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

Quoting Mats Olsson plan9@gmail.com: 535 – 5.7.8 Username and Password bot accepted. Learn more at (*) 535 5.7.8 http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=14257 Did you read the linked web page? khm

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

Quoting Mats Olsson plan9@gmail.com: Yes, I did and I made changes in the configuration of that mail box accordingly but it still does give the same error message. That website doesn't say anything about changing configuration. Did you perform the unlock captcha? khm

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

Quoting Mats Olsson plan9@gmail.com: cpu: can't dial: plan9.lanl.gov: The operation completed successfully. this exact error message is in the fortunes file. khm

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

Quoting Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com: On 22 October 2014 15:34, Kurt H Maier k...@sciops.net wrote: Quoting Mats Olsson plan9@gmail.com: cpu: can't dial: plan9.lanl.gov: The operation completed successfully. this exact error message is in the fortunes file. oh well

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

Quoting Winston Kodogo kod...@gmail.com: Much as I love Plan9, only a masochist would use it for email.I agreed with Carmack as recently as 1997: I spent a few months running Plan9. It has an achingly elegent internal structure, but a user interface that has been asleep for the past decade.

Re: [9fans] Setting up Mail in Acme on the Raspberry Pi.

Quoting Steve Simon st...@quintile.net: I am fairly sure the problem is to do with RAM size rather than the raspberry pi per-se. 4000 messages takes up a lot of space - and upas stores messages in RAM. Personally I save needed mail messages in named archives and try to keep the number of

Re: [9fans] neqn not found

Quoting Carsten Kunze carsten.ku...@arcor.de: Hello, is there no neqn on Plan9? Carsten neqn just runs eqn with -Tascii. Plan 9 uses UTF-8 and eqn has -Tutf as the default. khm

Re: [9fans] shell functions

Quoting Russ Cox r...@swtch.com: The right fix is to eliminate all possible interaction between (1) and (2). The first public fix focused instead on making (1) more robust, and guess what, it wasn't good enough and now there is a *second* CVE about this problem, and a *second* attempt at making

Re: [9fans] shell functions

Quoting Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com: you misrepresent. rsc addressed the non-web-centric issue: I don't think it is super important to try to make rc defend against malicious environments, any more than it is to make it somehow defend against malicious $paths. If those are

Re: [9fans] The developers of Plan9 think there was no point in coding in binary code three years ago as they did or make the Riga Technical University and University of Latvia?

Quoting françai s romaper...@gmail.com: What are the programming languages ​​that were used to develop the Plan9? Probably the Riga Technical University and University of Latvia continue teaching coding in binary code, ie, machine language. I say this because about three years ago the Riga

Re: [9fans] Plan9 Sources Repository

Quoting dante subscripti...@posteo.eu: Usable, not bureaucratic. Lots of people already use plan 9, therefore it is already useable. And you don't need to invest work. This seems like a load of garbage, since you're already demanding that other people do work to support your preferences.

Re: [9fans] simplest disk filesystem

Quoting erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: What is the motivation of choosing a distributed OS without wanting to explain how distributed operating systems work? the standard definition of distributed os rather excludes plan 9. - erik Please document this standard, including which

Re: [9fans] simplest disk filesystem

Quoting Yoann Padioleau p...@fb.com: I’m trying to make a tutorial explaining the code of a not too large kernel (9), but there are too many things to explain so I have to cut things. So having a simple fs which does not require to explain 9p, the rpc, the mount device, etc would be great. I

Re: [9fans] Fwd: Building a Raspberry Pi image / Keyboard support

Quoting erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: oh, editors have a 40 year head start. rpi can't possibly have reached that level of tedium yet, can they have? I think Eternal-September saturation levels may have effected a bit of a steeper curve on the who-cares charts khm

Re: [9fans] other kernel bug

Quoting Yoann Padioleau p...@fb.com: Hi cinap, Would it be possible to change a bit the 9front mercurial repository so that it can work on MacOS filesystem. I get some: abort: case-folding collision between sys/lib/troff/font/devutf/charlib/lH and sys/lib/troff/font/devutf/charlib/LH

Re: [9fans] syscall 53

Quoting lu...@proxima.alt.za: Obvious, good grounds for a conspiracy theory. Such code simply does not exist, no matter how much you harp on it. Next thing, you'll insist I need to prove that it does not exist, putting you squarely in the Creationists camp. I don't need anyone to prove

Re: [9fans] hgfs

Quoting ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com: has anyone looked at camlistore as a starting point? Written in Go, which means it works on Plan 9. That means it works on *one architecture* of Plan 9. khm

Re: [9fans] hgfs

Quoting ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com: I'm beginning to remember why I redirected this list to /dev/null. I think I'm going to resume. thanks for letting us know Enjoy your ever-shrinking place in the world, folks; it's clear that you enjoy it. It's also clear that nobody else cares any

Re: [9fans] hgfs

Quoting Latchesar Ionkov lu...@ionkov.net: Who exactly do you think are the we that you are talking about? All the unpopular, irrelevant people who regularly force poor Ron to loudly, manually pipe this list into /dev/null instead of just unsubscribing. khm

Re: [9fans] syscall 53

Quoting lu...@proxima.alt.za: PS: I have resurrected an old Nokia (5110, but I'm not sure) phone, but it's been borrowed and I have my doubts that I will be seeing it again any time soon. Maybe this forum can help me decide what GSM equipment is safe from interference by the networks and their

Re: [9fans] syscall 53

Quoting Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com: i like git. as it is a kind of archival file system, one should be able to build a plan9 file system interface for it. This should be possible for any reasonably sane scm; c.f. cinap's hgfs. But all the DVCS in the world doesn't let us

Re: [9fans] syscall 53

Quoting ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com: I have a different perspective. There are millions of chromebooks out there updating all the time, from the firmware to the kernel to the root file system to everything. It all works. Millions of carefully-crafted machines updating all the time, from

Re: [9fans] syscall 53

Quoting ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com: Ah well, back to 'm' for this thread, and I now accept that this community is unwilling to solve this simple problem, as so many others have. Bummer. ron Deliberate misdirection then; got it. I'm sorry you're sad, but comparing plan freaking 9 to an

Re: [9fans] syscall 53

Quoting ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com: And, again, I was not inclined to act on any of this until the discussion on the golang-dev list, which boiled down to: if you can do it with a single system call, you should with a response of we put in a patch, was not accepted yet.. I just renewed the

Re: [9fans] syscall 53

Quoting andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com: golang-dev has more clout than 9fans nowadays, at least as it pertains to plan9. That's why I'm asking. We now have three go-related new syscalls, while lots of actual hardware support gets flushed down the toilet for unspecified reasons.

Re: [9fans] [GSOC] plan9 which arch code to use?

Quoting Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com: On 8 May 2014 13:46, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: not enough Internet credits to sustain efforts ... Or a working e-mail supplier (they've blocked Google): This is what happens when people vote for Julius Malema. khm

Re: [9fans] [GSOC] plan9 which arch code to use?

Quoting erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net: for what it's worth, i review all the changes made to plan 9 and 9front and apply what makes sense. Some subset of the 9front people also do this with various publicly- available resources, like 9changes and 9atom. I'm not sure of the value of a

Re: [9fans] [GSOC] plan9 which arch code to use?

Quoting Jeremy Jackins jeremyjack...@gmail.com: On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 7:55 AM, Kurt H Maier k...@sciops.net wrote: thing, javascript is not a thing that happens on this operating system. Here is a screenshot of a javascript interpreter running on plan 9. https://github.com/robertkrimen

Re: [9fans] [GSOC] plan9 which arch code to use?

Quoting Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com: I see that I had better explain. I am yan cui's mentor for GSoC on a particular project that is starting with some code that I wrote, and it will greatly assist me initially if he and I are using the same basic source code for the system and

Re: [9fans] [GSOC] plan9 which arch code to use?

Quoting Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com: they weren't shot down, but saying use MY distribution over here, or use MY distribution over here, haha you said exactly the same thing

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