Hello all,
My question is, "Where can we find the official Plan 9 Foundation's main branch
so folks can get start sending pull requests?" It would be nice to see the
community members collaborate toward a 5th edition.
Thanks,
Vic
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Starting from a false premise does not help. 9front is not a development branch
of Plan 9. Plan 9 is Plan 9. 9front is 9front. 9front is an open-source fork or
derivation of Plan 9.
Trying to make 9front the new and official Plan 9 does seem absurd. I'm not
sure why there is a strong need
Also, I recently began work to revise Plan 9 documentation. If you'd like to
help, feel free to join me on the TIP9UG mailing list at
https://groups.google.com/g/tokyo-inferno--plan-9-users-group or contact me
directly at vic.thac...@fastmail.fm.
Sincerely,
Vester "Vic" Thacker
O
As it is a 9front specific question, you might consider posting to the 9front
mailing list.
To know more about 9front mailing lists, see http://lists.9front.org/.
Sincerely,
Vic
On Thu, Sep 30, 2021, at 07:08, Eli Cohen wrote:
> hello all,
>
> I wanted to check back in about the continuing
e along the way. Many of my friends (Plan 9 users)
have since passed away, but the memories of them remain. I suppose using Plan 9
reminds me of happier times when I use it.
明けましておめでとうございます。
Happy New Year,
Vester "Vic" Thacker
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n 9 on 9fans.
Happy New Year!
Vester "Vic" Thacker
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), 9front, 9legacy, and other distributions have an
open-source license. There is comfort knowing we can modify and create.
Best wishes for a prosperous and happy new year.
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On Wed, Dec 29, 2021, at 03:03, Duke Normandin wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 12:56:19 -0500
> "Frank D. Engel, Jr." wrote:
>
>> Partially to answer an earlier question and partially to
>> emphasize just how different Plan 9 is: you "log out" by
>> rebooting.
>
> You're kidding right? So it's a
r systems
(circa 2000) can often be bought for less than $20 USD per system and
components updated for less than a $100 USD per system if needed. Getting
classic Plan 9 system working well is an enjoyable past time. As 9fans has
become more of a 9front forum, just email me if you need support fo
On Tue, Jan 4, 2022, at 02:58, sirjofri wrote:
[snip]
>
> As mentioned before I encourage you to share your personal highlights,
> especially Plan 9 related ones.
[Looking back]
Some notable items in 2021 include, but are not limited to:
- Significant progress of Zig (ziglang) development on Plan
On Fri, Jan 28, 2022, at 11:03, ibrahim via 9fans wrote:
> I developed a kiosk version of plan9 (based on 9front and legacy9) and
> am about to develop a single user desktop system. Those can coexist
> with the existing plan9 system.
>
> I named the new service targets kiosk and desktop. Both
ent ways: https://plan9foundation.org/activities.html So I
> would not say that it "is not being developed anymore".
The Plan 9 Foundation activities page
(https://plan9foundation.org/activities.html) states, "Preparing for a new
release, including patches&
checksums.txt, and had a recent release.
Tue Jan 18 11:08:03 GMT 2022 md5 fce568ed4a0d9829fc2d3a4dd8d1f068 sha1
66822382b92079d08400183bdd85a38d21ea7a73 9legacy-new.iso.bz2
I surmise that Plan 9 Foundation is supporting 9Legacy. However, I could be
wrong and often am.
-- Vester
The community might consider using GitHub Discussions as a forum provider
instead.
https://docs.github.com/en/discussions/quickstart
GitHub Discussions might help keep discussions focused on contributions.
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Just a hunch, but perhaps you haven't added the cpu server kernel to /lib/tftpd
to be loaded.
-vic
On Sat, Jul 22, 2023, at 15:21, Marco Feichtinger wrote:
> The error was caused by a misconfigured ndb.
> Thanks to Frank D. Engel Jr., which gave me the hint in a separat email.
>
> So I played
Since the Plan 9 Foundation doesn't focus on technical aspects, Would the
formation of a Plan 9 Core Team be the next logical step? My understanding is
the core team would decide technical direction and implementation. What are
your thoughts?
--vic
On Fri, Jan 26, 2024, at 11:31, Don A.
To clarify, my message represented a genuine exploration of the idea of
envisioning a new release.
--vic
On Thu, Jan 25, 2024, at 10:01, Don Bailey wrote:
> Breh. No.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 7:45 PM wrote:
>
>> Dear 9fans, as enthusiasts and experts of Plan 9, you are undoubtedly
>>
Dear 9fans, as enthusiasts and experts of Plan 9, you are undoubtedly aware of
the unique position this operating system holds in the world of distributed
computing. Its influence on modern computing paradigms is undeniable. In the
spirit of continuing this legacy, the prospect of Plan 9
Thank you for your valuable insight. I appreciate being corrected when wrong.
The purpose of my query regarding the development of a vision for Plan 9 is to
deeply understand the collective aspirations and goals of our community. I
firmly believe that aligning our collective efforts with a
Hi Hiro et al,
This mailing list is focused on Plan 9 discussions. Noticing conflicts between
the 9legacy and 9front communities indicates that adopting collaborative
strategies could be advantageous. In my detailed post, I aimed to provide a
comprehensive overview to fully encapsulate the
continue to build a
welcoming and vibrant Plan 9 community that thrives on both change and
tradition.
Kind regards,
Vester "Vic" Thacker
On Fri, May 10, 2024, at 04:50, hiro wrote:
> no clue which conflict you're seeing, vic.
>
> there's been some trolling back and forth sin
roach supports diverse user needs and promotes a vibrant,
inclusive community."
I'm exploring whether there's interest in more collaboration. It would be
beneficial to focus on critiquing ideas rather than individuals.
Kind regards,
Vester "Vic" Thacker
On Fri, May 10, 2024, at
Let me explain my intent and elaborate on my point of view. I started a new
thread to enhance the signal-to-noise ratio. It's easy for a thread to become
cluttered with multiple issues, so I believe creating separate threads for
distinct concerns helps streamline communication and keeps
Perhaps adopting this mindset could be beneficial. When developing a feature,
it's worth considering its potential for portability and usefulness to other
communities.
Vic
On Sun, May 12, 2024, at 07:27, hiro wrote:
> just send the code then
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 12:22 AM wrote:
>>
>>
On Mon, May 13, 2024, at 18:38, hiro wrote:
> how did you find out about this company, i never saw it mentioned
> anywhere before?
I don't spend my time trolling 9fans. ;-)
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Thanks Jacob for catching the mistake.
Vic
On Sun, May 12, 2024, at 16:12, Jacob Moody wrote:
> You just sent to this to just me, not the list. Shame not everyone
> could see this LLM drivel :(
>
> On 5/12/24 00:46, vic.thac...@fastmail.fm wrote:
>> I've noticed the growing divide within our
My understanding is that the initial request came from a 9legacy member to the
9front community, and the responses were quite intriguing. It has led me to
ponder how we might bridge the gap between these communities. There seems to be
conflict on both sides, and for some reason, I hold 9front
I agree that having a clear vision and charter is essential before forming a
team. Regarding building an inclusive Plan 9 community that encompasses
multiple groups, it's important to establish common goals and values that
resonate with all members. What are your thoughts on creating open
I'm stepping back to listen. Perhaps you're not a software engineer. It is
good to discuss before starting.
Vic
On Sun, May 12, 2024, at 22:11, hiro wrote:
> why step back. step forward and put your money where your mouth is.
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2024 at 2:42 PM wrote:
>>
>> Thank you for
Thank you, Ibrahim, for your comments. I can see where my suggestions do not
make sense. It is too difficult a challenge for the communities to envisage.
If no one can envisage it, then no one can do it.
Vic
On Mon, May 13, 2024, at 12:52, ibrahim wrote:
> On Monday, 13 May 2024, at 5:09
The approach is effective in open source projects when there are leaders who
excel in communication, provide a clear vision, and prioritize objectives. Its
effectiveness diminishes in the absence of strong communication and planning.
Clear expectations generally facilitate easier collaboration
ating.
If Brantley Coile still reads 9fans, thank you sir for being an inspiration to
me and many others.
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On Wed, May 15, 2024, at 01:30, B. Atticus Grobe wrote:
> Oh, I think it's great that people are using it. I simply find the
> obfuscatory nature of your presentation to be suspicious. It is generally
> considered to be good etiquette to disclose affiliations to a company
> during discussions.
On Tue, May 14, 2024, at 23:12, B. Atticus Grobe wrote:
> Taking the time to go through that, it's literally just you; your LLC.
> Interesting the you didn't feel the need for transparency and simply say
> 'this is my company.'
The intention of this thread was to highlight which companies are
Firstly, congratulations to Lucio on the progress with getting Fossil running
under 9front. A heartfelt thank you to everyone who offered their support and
assistance to make this possible! I only say this as a person who wants to
celebrate successes.
FWIW, I’d like to help clarify the
On Wed, May 15, 2024, at 15:11, Jacob Moody wrote:
> At this point I can't really tell if you're using some LLM to be ironic
> or if you actually think this junk
> is of any substance. I am not sure how you don't see this copy pasta
> garbage as anything else than a waste
> of everyone else's
On Wed, May 15, 2024, at 16:39, pl...@room3420.net wrote:
> It doesn't. I don't know if you're a troll or just not clever enough to
> understand that you make everybody uncomfortable.
> Hope this helps.
Well, I am disappointed that you feel that way. I am definitely not a troll nor
am I that
On Wed, May 15, 2024, at 14:48, John the Scott wrote:
> finding nothing on google for Nantahala. any links?
>
> -john
Yes, that is by design. Working with a small number of clients is preferred.
https://nantahala.systems is the site that mentions Plan 9. It deals with the
hardware and
On Mon, May 13, 2024, at 21:56, hiro wrote:
> citation needed
https://sosenterprise.sd.gov/BusinessServices/Business/FictitiousDetail.aspx?CN=078243101203005056228191044241171252181195229085
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Yes, that is curious.
On Mon, May 13, 2024, at 22:59, G B wrote:
> Curiously, I searched for Nantalala Systems and found an https link to
> NANTAHALA SYSTEMS. *BEWARE: SEEMS TO BE BOGUS*
> Under "store" they list two workstations they sell, both listed as
> "sold out" that are
>
On Wed, May 15, 2024, at 17:38, sirjofri wrote:
> Hey vic,
...
> Write your mails. Write them, don't send them. Read them again
> carefully and think about the people reading it. They most likely
> understand as much as you, and they have all the track record of
> earlier discussions, so they
On Wed, May 15, 2024, at 19:35, hiro wrote:
> it's not much of a degree if they don't require you to read Strunk & White
Sure, I'll show you an example.
It was one of the best scholarships available. You should have seen my writing
before. ;-)
Uriel admired Strunk & White. Today, many colleges
Thank you, Sirjofri, nice idea.
There are two private U.S. companies that are investing, developing, and using
a closed source Plan 9 distribution called ᴁOS (aka ᴁ9). The companies have
been in existence since 2020.
Nantahala Holdings, LLC
Nantahala Operations, LLC (dba Nantahala Systems)
On Mon, May 13, 2024, at 18:22, ibrahim wrote:
...
> plan9 is simply the final release made by bell labs and now owned by
> p9f. Thats not my interpretation this is a fact. Everything beyond that
> point is a fork based on plan9.
>
> Everyone is allowed to derive his/her work from this provided
I would like to extend my gratitude to everyone who took the
time to provide their valuable feedback. I fully acknowledge that there
appears to be limited interest in the proposal. Your time and assistance
are greatly appreciated.
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I would like to extend my gratitude to everyone who took the
time to provide their valuable feedback. I fully acknowledge that there
appears to be limited interest in the proposal. Your time and assistance
are greatly appreciated.
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Is there interest in establishing a dedicated Plan 9 Core Team to spearhead its
technical development? When we look at other communities like FreeBSD, they
have both a foundation and a core team, with the latter overseeing the
technical aspects of the project. If this idea resonates with you,
When looking at the FreeBSD project, the introduction of a Plan 9 Core Team can
offer several benefits:
1. *Centralized Technical Leadership*: A Core Team can provide clear technical
leadership and direction for the project. This ensures that development efforts
are coordinated, focused,
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