Re: [9fans] equality sign in Rc

Well fix it! Can't be too hard. brucee On 14 May 2017 at 02:53, Charles Forsyth wrote: > > On 13 May 2017 at 15:21, trebol wrote: > >> No with hyphenation, my friend! > > > ahh! that's a little more specific. I usually switch it off so I

Re: [9fans] Reimplementing Plan 9 in Go (Was: Re: [9front] bio io functions)

I agree. Thank you Google translate. brucee On 6 May 2017 at 11:25, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > آقای Mark V. Shaney شما ما را خسته کردید. > > On Fri, May 5, 2017, 4:51 PM Jules Merit gmail.com> wrote: > >> May I suggest "pxemain"? >> Grow

Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff

d EPS easily! > > :-) > > On Fri, 05 May 2017 15:23:39 +1000 Bruce Ellis <bruce.el...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "there is no good > > solution". > > > > There is the PSPIC macro in groff, but it genera

Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff

I asked bwk - troff wizard, and to paraphrase him "there is no good solution". There is the PSPIC macro in groff, but it generates huge files. For the latest book they used \X to embed markers and a go programs to postprocess troff output. brucee On 2 May 2017 at 19:37, Bruce Ellis

Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff

> > > On 2 May 2017, at 09:59, Bruce Ellis <bruce.el...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Is using \X what I'm looking for, with -Tpost (default)? > > brucee > > On 2 May 2017 at 13:44, Prof Brucee <prof.bru...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Any advice on including postscript in a troff document? >> >> brucee >> > >

Re: [9fans] Postscript and troff

Is using \X what I'm looking for, with -Tpost (default)? brucee On 2 May 2017 at 13:44, Prof Brucee wrote: > Any advice on including postscript in a troff document? > > brucee >

Re: [9fans] Blit

baud modem? brucee On 27 April 2017 at 22:37, Rob Pike <robp...@gmail.com> wrote: > Total coincidence: I played on a 5620 yesterday, connected to a 3B2 > running System V. Used jim for the first time since 1985. > > -rob > > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Bruce E

Re: [9fans] Blit

y. The same guy has done some amazing restoration of old and exotic > computers. > > > On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 5:57 PM Bruce Ellis <bruce.el...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> For those interested in the Blit and other stuff from the labs, >> particularly if yo

[9fans] Blit

For those interested in the Blit and other stuff from the labs, particularly if you are in the Seattle area, you might like to contact s...@sdf.lonestar.org who is the Associated Curator of the Communications Museum. He gave me a tour and I introduced him to games/crabs. Big old telephone

Re: [9fans] ps bug

Doesn't help. brucee On 11 April 2017 at 17:21, Sergey Zhilkin <szhil...@gmail.com> wrote: > Seems ps (shell script from hell) uses plan9port sort. And coreutils sort > do not undarstand +1 parameter. > > Try to place plan9port path before any other. > > 2017-04-11 9:

[9fans] ps bug

using plan9ports' "ps -e" does not print all processes. dirread /proc fun I guess. brucee

Re: [9fans] IPV6

A shitshow is an apt description. I searched hard for an answer to my question. Regards, brucee On 1 April 2017 at 21:06, Kurt H Maier <k...@sciops.net> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 02:46:53AM -0700, Ori Bernstein wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 08:36:55PM +1100, Br

Re: [9fans] IPV6

It doesn't work if I ignore it. ip(2) doesn't mention '%' Regards, brucee On 1 April 2017 at 20:46, Ori Bernstein <o...@eigenstate.org> wrote: > On Sat, Apr 01, 2017 at 08:36:55PM +1100, Bruce Ellis wrote: > > Does anyone know what IPV6 addresses like fec0:0:0:%1 mean and

[9fans] IPV6

Does anyone know what IPV6 addresses like fec0:0:0:%1 mean and how to make a real (plan9) IPV6 address from them. Regards. brucee

Re: [9fans] bug in exportfs

an alternative is just to have an exclude file listing files/directories that cannot be read or walked to. brucee On 15 February 2016 at 12:05, arisawa wrote: > Hello, > > > 2016/02/15 7:57、Charles Forsyth のメール： > > > > > > On 14 February

[9fans] utf-8

Not to burst a balloon but check out variable length ints in the Midi File Format for utf-8 in the early 80s. brucee

Re: [9fans] Undefined Behaviour in C

Simple data share in Inferno. Define a struct with a single byte in it. Now with b == nil throw in a b.data = 42. Visible channel to every process. This requires 0xF zillion to be writeable. On 26 November 2015 at 22:22, Brantley Coile wrote: > Hi Bakul. Long time since

Re: [9fans] Frogs?

As an historical note the space character was once a frog. Rob told me that he removed it from isfrog just to see if this broke anything. It didn't. brucee On 7 October 2015 at 02:25, Kare Nuorteva wrote: > > Thanks to all for very informative replies! :) > > > Cheers, >

Re: [9fans] plan9 on windows

https://bitbucket.org/mtrS/pf9 On 10 June 2015 at 01:57, David Pick d.m.p...@qmul.ac.uk wrote: On 09/06/15 16:52, Steve Simon wrote: Its looking like I may be sintting in fronto of windows for a while Anyone suggest a version of sam, B, and 9term which works on win64? I don't think I

Re: [9fans] Debian bug 737206 - rc shell uses insecurely /tmp

As in I have ties older than your /tmp. On 7 December 2014 at 05:29, Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 5:22 AM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: 40 years on, you'd think someone would deal with it. The point I was trying to make is that it was realised

Re: [9fans] Debian bug 737206 - rc shell uses insecurely /tmp

Well I hope he has fun fixing a sandwich. Your words ... because Debian people are not very good at doing things correctly. On 5 December 2014 at 15:14, Kurt H Maier k...@sciops.net wrote: Quoting Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com: Don't these people have better things to do than finding

Re: [9fans] Debian bug 737206 - rc shell uses insecurely /tmp

Don't these people have better things to do than finding non-bugs in systems they don't understand? brucee On 5 December 2014 at 13:33, Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 11:49 PM, Stéphane Aulery saul...@free.fr wrote: discovered that rc creates

Re: [9fans] Do Plan9Port's lib9 and libbio work on Windows?

I agree. I have never seen Inferno built with ming. brucee On 30 November 2014 at 12:31, Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote: On 29 November 2014 at 03:31, Ryan rym...@gmail.com wrote: Of course; VS can barely compile anything useful. The version of lib9 and libbio in

Re: [9fans] kencc benchmark vs gcc

Then again if I'm writing a multi-threaded program then go blows gcc out of the water. brucee On 18/10/2014 8:18 AM, Anthony Sorace a...@9srv.net wrote: There have been many over the years (I think the original papers present something), but I've not seen anything current enough to be useful.

Re: [9fans] p9p: Virtual terminal fileserver

To be honest I've wondered about this for a while. Here's my quandry... I use Vmware for Ubuntu 14 LTS. First I start a dumbarse terminal and do: factotum plumber sam9term This gives me something I can work with. But when I run venti, then fossil - I get no fossilcons in $ns. Fossil works

Re: [9fans] MIPS64

I stand corrected. brucee On 6 September 2014 17:20, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.com wrote: Last millennia, don't you mean? ^.^ Sorry, couldn't resist. If I had known about Inferno when I still had my PS2 Linux Kit working... =( On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el

Re: [9fans] MIPS64

I started with the linux kit and had Inferno working in two days. The linux kit is funny. Its is so slow and stupid. But handy for putting an Inferno image on a cartridge. brucee On 7 September 2014 04:11, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.com wrote: Very true! On Sun, Sep 7, 2014 at 3:49

Re: [9fans] MIPS64

Interesting. I did 4c last century (for the Inferno PS2 port). Must have not made it into the distrib. brucee On 06/09/2014 2:57 PM, cherry lunari...@gmail.com wrote: Hello 9Fans, I would like to share that mips64 support of Plan 9 is currently available. The compiler and the libraries are

Re: [9fans] other kernel bug

Could this solve the 'why is swap so crappy?' On 05/06/2014 11:58 AM, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote: correct. -- cinap

Re: [9fans] too fast key repeat in pcpae 2cpu mode

Fixed! On 09/04/2014 1:13 PM, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: so basically the timing loop is messed up. if you could run the amd64 kernel on this machine, this will not happen. Before I do this, I tried the 'sources' pc kernel for 2 cpu. It recognizes 2 cpus and has no problem. Kenji

Re: [9fans] mechanism to bind partitions in /dev?

disk/prep (and it's mates) are what you need for sdC0. man 8 prep. brucee On 18 January 2014 17:57, Yoann Padioleau p...@fb.com wrote: Hi, Can someone explain how the partitions in /dev/sdC0/xxx are populated? Who create those device files? I have a small plan9 kernel running a small

Re: [9fans] Help requested. Boyd, where are you?

Boyd thought Sudoko sucked, I wrote a limbo program that serves a webpage. brucee On 13 January 2014 15:28, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: you can borrow the ui from here: http://mirtchovski.com/p9/sudoku/ On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 9:20 PM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: I

Re: [9fans] /n convention history?

/n was introduced (i believe) in 8th edition for weinberger's neta (and later netb) remote filesystem. there was a directory in /n for each remote machine. the gmount() system call was used to mount a stream, usually a datakit connection, to the remote machine. it was great. brucee On 13

Re: [9fans] Maximal number of processes

Good work. As my good friend Boyd once said Don't give me bullshit speculation. Measure something!. brucee On 10 January 2014 20:15, Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote: On 10 January 2014 09:11, Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.comwrote: At that point I decided to quite

Re: [9fans] Maximal number of processes

suck it and see, the answerers didn't understand the question. add nproc=XXX to plan9.ini and use the environment, or hard code code it. i'd like to see your results for nproc=50 and nproc=5000. brucee On 9 January 2014 19:08, Pavel Klinkovský pavel.klinkov...@gmail.comwrote: Hi Steven,

Re: [9fans] Vanilla Plan 9 or one of the flavors?

Welcome to what is becoming something indistinguishable from the thousands of linux blame-game mailing lists. Grow up. Read a good book. Go to the beach. brucee On 6 January 2014 16:01, Steven Stallion sstall...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 10:53 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg

Re: [9fans] MIPS LE fp register ordering in MOVD

I don't recall 0c ever being a script. That was done this century. Looks like things got broke. brucee On 27 December 2013 15:41, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: You might be able to blame the play station 2 and the two different MIPS chips it had. I did two compilers. The FP was very unusual

Re: [9fans] MIPS LE fp register ordering in MOVD

Vita got the good gear. Ken said something about no need for them to find the bugs again. Halcyon days. We used 0? for RM4700 and later the QED7000. brucee On 28 Dec 2013 12:24, cherry lunari...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.comwrote

Re: [9fans] MIPS LE fp register ordering in MOVD

You might be able to blame the play station 2 and the two different MIPS chips it had. I did two compilers. The FP was very unusual and one was LE and the other BE. Inferno port worked well. brucee On 27 December 2013 14:41, cherry lunari...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Dec 26, 2013 at 6:46

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

A quote I like from the 80s at the Labs - netnews is like standing up in a crowded theater and shouting 'anyone wanna buy a used car?'. Please consider when posting to his list that you might be doing the same. (Not directed at anyone specifically). brucee On 24 December 2013 13:49, Skip

Re: [9fans] Ideas from Plan-9

GreenArrays rocks. I still have no idea what to with all the cores. I've found that writing a go package that generates fun forth is fun. brucee On 17/12/2013 11:32 AM, Jeff Sickel j...@corpus-callosum.com wrote: On Dec 15, 2013, at 4:48 PM, Tristan 9p...@imu.li wrote: and then there's

Re: [9fans] music storage

depends what you use to compressed them! i've seen megamachines... On 10 December 2013 09:55, Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.comwrote: how much storage do 10,000 Maniacs take? On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 2:51 PM, Conor Williams conor.willi...@gmail.comwrote: just got 10,000 Maniacs

Re: [9fans] music storage

um. it was a joke... On 10 December 2013 10:19, Conor Williams conor.willi...@gmail.com wrote: 10,000 Maniac + Ozzy Ozbourne 10,001 Maniacs Blind Man's Zoo-MB 01 Eat for Two.mp34.3MB 02 Please Forgive Us.mp3--3.9MB 03 The Big

Re: [9fans] music storage

Well there is some truth in all these emails. First let me say that no recording studio records in mp3 and no studio software does unless you really force it. Not even Garage Band - the baseline. (Note that I will usually make a mp3 for my phone after a mix.) That said the dudes compiling and

Re: [9fans] music storage

good to hear. all of the major brands had holograms in 1998. so the answer is? brucee On 10 December 2013 13:42, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Mon Dec 9 21:23:18 EST 2013, bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote: Well there is some truth in all these emails. First let me say that no

Re: [9fans] music storage

Maybe he's lucky. I have a swag of such disks and 80% are very fine pirates. brucee On 10 December 2013 14:26, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: offtopic at this point, but anyways: I'm willing to bet that at least a few pre-1998 cds from your collection were pirated copies

Re: [9fans] music storage

no simple answer. unusual compilations are obvious. a lot of classic rock CDs aren't real. i have a handel messiah that swaers its real but it's about 128kbs at best and statistically 14 bit. brucee On 10 December 2013 14:39, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Mon Dec 9 22:15:18

Re: [9fans] Help with plumbing rules

The diagnostic on the last line should be: Unexpected End of File at EOF That's the memorable diagnostic from a CDC compiler. brucee On 6 November 2013 17:42, 6o205z...@sneakemail.com wrote: I'm trying to create a plumbing rule so that I can right-click (in acme) on the diagnostic messages

Re: [9fans] userspace semlocks

you are missing the reason. read the paper. brucee On 22 September 2013 12:55, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: when i measure chan send performance with the attached program with the semaphore locks that have been made the default for sources and with the old locks, the old

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

Why? Why the angst? Nix is cool. And the nonexistent demons will release something cool. Now getting back to the lost v10 - which I think is a much more interesting topic. (There work is much more interesting, I guess mine is challenging). I have to go to Canberra to sort this out. Got the

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

I'm not sure how to negotiate this. Tiger says: 1) Go back to 1988. 2) Apply for a license. 3) Run it/enjoy it. 4) Stop being a dick brucee On 7 September 2013 23:21, Kurt H Maier k...@sciops.net wrote: Quoting Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com: I was disturbed by the claim that v10 had

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

. brucee On 7 September 2013 23:33, Kurt H Maier k...@sciops.net wrote: Quoting Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com: I'm not sure how to negotiate this. Tiger says: 1) Go back to 1988. 2) Apply for a license. 3) Run it/enjoy it. 4) Stop being a dick brucee I agree to these terms

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

Perhaps by being qualified and having a substantial body of published research and teaching under your belt. Or out-source it. brucee On 8 September 2013 00:58, Anthony Sorace a...@9srv.net wrote: I believe the rules are different when the work is research, sponsored by public money.

Re: [9fans] Closed nix development is an insult

I don't really understand this thread. I thought it was a stupid flame war, in which case I can only say that I miss Boyd calling a spade a fucking shovel. I was disturbed by the claim that v10 had been lost because of bullshit, but said nothing. If indeed someone has lost their v10 I can

Re: [9fans] Acme win and 75+ character Send commands

just don't forget to unset nonomatch On 6 September 2013 14:10, Rob Pike robp...@gmail.com wrote: You give a shell command the flag -X to turn on X, so +X to turn off X makes sense in a negative true kinda way. -rob

Re: [9fans] libbio: Bgetle2(), Bgetle4(), Bputle2() and Bputle4()

do it On 2 September 2013 15:24, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: The Go distribution has these new functions which are not present in the Plan 9 library. They seem to fit in libbio harmlessly, so I just added them in, but in the past an analogous change was rejected (the details escape me, but

Re: [9fans] java on dis

when this thread calms down a bit i'll post some suggestions and hopefully helpful hints - one of which is that there will be tears. i'll respond to off list technical questions. brucee On 29 April 2013 18:07, Sergey Zhilkin szhil...@gmail.com wrote: There is

Re: [9fans] [GSoC] sorry for the last email

I had to get an import license for my Blit. It's very nice. I'm still not sure if I can dispose of it. It only lasted 15 years in Bondi heat/salt. Gsoc project: fix it - connect it to the bunny. Extra credit: find out if I can give it to you. brucee On 24 April 2013 20:20, Antonio Barrones

Re: [9fans] Google IO

that's a quorum. On 22 April 2013 18:58, Nick Owens misch...@offblast.org wrote: On Saturday, April 20, 2013 9:16:28 PM UTC-7, Bruce Ellis wrote: Any 9 dudes going to IO in SFO real soon? I will be around abouts so may be good for an informal IWP9 beer and loud loud music. brucee

[9fans] Google IO

Any 9 dudes going to IO in SFO real soon? I will be around abouts so may be good for an informal IWP9 beer and loud loud music. brucee

Re: [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9

I recall one guy at the labs(!) who would ruthlessly avoid printf because it dragged in too much stuff. I think he ran out of people to argue with 30 years ago. On 24 Mar 2013 10:47, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: If you want real programs which are bigger that I (we) actually

Re: [9fans] What's up with $home? And a security question.

drink On 24 February 2013 16:20, Stuart Morrow morrow.stu...@googlemail.comwrote: So I read in New Scientist one time that being awake for more than a certain amount of hours is the same as being lightly drunk. I shouldn't be on the Internet at all really right now.

Re: [9fans] What's up with $home? And a security question.

i was thinkimg more of combating lack of sleep by using strongdrink(3) - which eventually calls sleep(2). its on the strchr(3) page just before strumpet.

Re: [9fans] going too far?

i could only presume that the #includes are expected to be in the first block. On 19 February 2013 20:32, Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.comwrote: On 18 February 2013 19:23, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.comwrote: sorry, not all source files, just the 'import' section. I

Re: [9fans] Do plan9 users know/use acme?

a simple web search, or the wiki, has more than enough. On 18 February 2013 20:59, avoid9...@gmail.com wrote: And if so have they analysed WHY they like it? How mature [not too problematic for a plan9 beginner] is the rPi installation? ==TIA

Re: [9fans] a disk filesystem for both Plan 9 and Linux?

I noticed the other day that I was offered exFAT when formatting a 2T drive on windows 7. I know nothing about it except the sample space of reading one page on the web. Any insights? Is this FAT48 or something newish and compatible in some transfinite sense. brucee On 12 January 2013 10:58,

Re: [9fans] go forth and ulong no more!

i think that go's scalar types would work better. also usize is a bit dicky. brucee On Nov 22, 2012 12:23 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Wed Nov 21 19:19:21 EST 2012, benave...@gmail.com wrote: hola, usize, really? any reason not use this opportunity to join the

Re: [9fans] go forth and ulong no more!

experienced ones at times); this makes it clear. On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.comwrote: i think that go's scalar types would work better. also usize is a bit dicky. brucee On Nov 22, 2012 12:23 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Wed Nov 21 19

Re: [9fans] go forth and ulong no more!

heads up! uintptr in all over the go packages because it is right. i'd like an example of where usize wins, as it has to be same as uintptr. what is sizeof(x)? struct { char stuff[8 * GB]; } x; quite a reasonable but rookie decl in 64 bit land. brucee On 22 November 2012 13:35, Charles

Re: [9fans] p9p backspace/delete in osx

hit with brick - fixed! - unknown source On 25 September 2012 21:04, Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in wrote: On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 08:52:40AM +, Christopher Hobbs wrote: Being that macs don't have a proper delete key, how can I get delete behavior to kill a program in rc short of slapping a

Re: [9fans] carriage returns in 9term and acme

Brilliant! Write a program because the router is stupid. Anything else you would like me to write while I'm at it? brucee On 13 September 2012 00:30, Matthew Veety mve...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 12, 2012 12:48 AM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote: my adsl router has a telnet interface

Re: [9fans] carriage returns in 9term and acme

Indeed. Though I'm waiting for the trivial implementation that does something imaginative with the batshit practice of overwriting lines using CR without LF. brucee On 13 September 2012 10:02, Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote: That's a bit elaborate. vt(1) might be easier. On

Re: [9fans] carriage returns in 9term and acme

wrote: without a LF how will the sprockets pulling the screen up vt(1) get activated? On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 5:07 PM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote: Indeed. Though I'm waiting for the trivial implementation that does something imaginative with the batshit practice of overwriting

Re: [9fans] carriage returns in 9term and acme

my adsl router has a telnet interface that won't dumb down (i.e. be sensible). it is more than tedious watching it try to backspace over stuff and move the cursor about. hey guys, don't do that crap! On 12 September 2012 14:06, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: no. changing the font also wont get rid

Re: [9fans] spim

beware... they came in flavours, some of which designed to stop fun. mine still spims fine after a decade. not sure why i have an unopened spare. bucee On 6 September 2012 21:33, Aram Hăvărneanu ara...@mgk.ro wrote: Sorry, typo - should be WRT54G Interesting, I have that router but wanted

Re: [9fans] finally success with pentium d dualcore D945PLrn board

is that machine 20 years old yet? On 29 August 2012 11:26, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Tue Aug 28 19:03:05 EDT 2012, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: this machine works now in mp mode (after 4 years) with 9front's acpi implementation. http://9fans.net/archive/2008/02/671 if

Re: [9fans] higher-end compute server recommendations?

Watch out for the bunnies! On 25 July 2012 15:09, John Floren j...@jfloren.net wrote: On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 9:58 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Wed Jul 25 00:45:01 EDT 2012, j...@jfloren.net wrote: We've got some budget left for hardware, so I'm looking for a server

Re: [9fans] Heresy alert, Zerox - Clone

shut up and back to work. nothing to see here. On 3 June 2012 11:53, Connor Lane Smith c...@lubutu.com wrote: On 3 June 2012 02:40, Stephen Wiley swwi...@gmail.com wrote: One thing that I can see is that the 40 billion windows you open are all grouped together and don't get in your way when

Re: [9fans] Reading gmail

out of interest does gmail do something useful when presenting mail that is labeled? brucee On 20 May 2012 23:02, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: Mailboxes are complicated. I only have three: Inbox, Sent, and Trash. [citation needed]. i didn't say the mailbox was owned by me.  

Re: [9fans] Thinkpad T61 Installation Experience

a friend gave me a T61 and the bell-labs iso installed just fine. i can't recall using any tricks, pretty much however the bios was configured - i did it in the pub. brucee On 16 May 2012 22:24, Burton Samograd burton.samog...@gmail.com wrote: I got my Thinkpad T61 last night and installation

Re: [9fans] Governance question???

Good taste is its own reward. On 14 May 2012 20:32, Francisco J Ballesteros n...@lsub.org wrote: On May 14, 2012, at 12:14 PM, IainWS wrote: Would I be wrong in saying there are four dictators? Yes, there's just good taste :)

Re: [9fans] Governance question???

Ah - Bund Deutscher Fußball-Lehrer - of course!

Re: [9fans] integer width on AMD64

the consensus at the sunshine club is that to take advantage of the wasted bits in a 64 bit pointer you should RENT THEM OUT! brucee -- Don't meddle in the mouth -- MVS (0416935147, +1-513-3BRUCEE)

Re: [9fans] nice terminal...

John Connor uses his 26th century technology to travel back in time, insisting that Sarah's destiny will be thwarted if she does not take the errata to the desert. They blow things up - not many dead. Sarah latches onto a Cyborg open wifi and summons - a sequel. On 23 April 2012 09:53, Joseph

Re: [9fans] who would have guessed.

dinner time, hold on while i grep my desk for my car keys - ken anon On 31 March 2012 00:13, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: btw., the POSIX -q option to grep is needed only on non-POSIX systems, that do not provide /dev/null, right? grep(1) has a -s option.  this is obviously

Re: [9fans] SSHv2

ha ha, the bunny shakes his tail. i don't want daily updates - like openssl or NO SALE. seriously, someone had to do it and not a gsoc kid thank dog. brucee On 30 March 2012 12:26, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote: congratulations! :) -- cinap -- Don't meddle in the mouth -- MVS (0416935147,

[9fans] who would have guessed.

7th Edition Unix grep did not conform to POSIX -- somewhere in gnudoc. -- Don't meddle in the mouth -- MVS (0416935147, +1-513-3BRUCEE)

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 rejected from GSoC 2012

part from me about that comparative issue. Nobody knows how things will come. If people would know, probably Plan 9 would be the follower of Unix, but it didn't come that way! Am 20.03.2012 um 00:24 schrieb Bruce Ellis: Even Shaney is having trouble with these fish of the trees, tho he would

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 rejected from GSoC 2012

Even Shaney is having trouble with these fish of the trees, tho he would like to borrow Most cases EU does central shit. brucee On 20 March 2012 10:07, Charles Forsyth charles.fors...@gmail.com wrote: http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gadgets/plug-versus-plug-49303764/ On 19 March 2012 22:22, andrey

Re: [9fans] 6c bug?

for the example you gave the diagnostic is correct. On 28 February 2012 18:20, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Tue Feb 28 02:16:04 EST 2012, bruce.el...@gmail.com wrote: what values of p[1] do you expect the test to be of use? On 28 February 2012 15:40, erik quanstrom

Re: [9fans] 6c bug?

what values of p[1] do you expect the test to be of use? On 28 February 2012 15:40, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: for p = uchar*, Nbus==256,                if((uint)p[1] = Nbus){ generates        warning: ./mp.c:212 useless or misleading comparison: UCHAR = 0x100 i'm pretty

[9fans] T61

a friend gave me a thinkpad T61 today and the mighty bunny installed no problems (at the mighty sunshine club - beautiful day today). i might need a T61 friend for cardbus help (my stuff from india is on a drive). i believe such or similar machines abound in bunny land. anyone wanna virtually

Re: [9fans] Rising intonation

Don't worry cuzz, he's a Bwit. On 16 January 2012 14:07, Winston Kodogo kod...@gmail.com wrote:  It's not public? read with rising intonation? Charles? I'd never have picked you as as a Kiwi?? But your rising intonation has given you away??? -- Don't meddle in the mouth -- MVS

Re: [9fans] fossil (again)

Many a moon ago Basser was doing something about incorporating various bits into the a 32V Vax system. They went for a 1K block filesystem (don't remember which one, early BSD?) but spent a large amount of time on retrofitting 512B blocks. I wrote a small program that traversed a disk and

Re: [9fans] fossil (again)

confused me. you mean 27% or what's in my signature? On 10 January 2012 16:30, Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: On 2012-01-09, at 21:04 PM, Bruce Ellis wrote: Your call. You didn't give us your number. -- Don't meddle in the mouth -- MVS (0416935147, +1-513-3BRUCEE)

[9fans] oops

i think i spammed everyone in sight by pressing the wrong button on linkedin. most of the offended are on this list so i'll stop this junk. sorry. -- Don't meddle in the mouth -- MVS (0416935147, +1-513-3BRUCEE)

Re: [9fans] Fortran growing in absolute number of users

ratfor++ to the rescue! On 2 December 2011 17:39, ron minnich rminn...@gmail.com wrote: A guy I know at LANL just mandated C++ for all codes, no more Fortran. There are no hard and fast rules. That article is an advertisement, so treat it as such :) ron -- Don't meddle in the mouth --

Re: [9fans] Fortran growing in absolute number of users

Only the cheese stands alone, Unix sup TM. I wish I had the poster. On 3 December 2011 00:46, Noah Evans noah.ev...@gmail.com wrote: From PJ Plauger when asked about Ratfor: Q: What's Ratfor? PJ: To eat cheese. Noah On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 2:41 PM, Bruce Ellis bruce.el...@gmail.com

Re: [9fans] all you yacc experts

that's what i said ... If all the information is available in y.output then surely modifying yacc will cut out the middle man. brucee On 13 November 2011 21:08, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote: Perhaps I'am way off base but surely the neatest solution would be to modify yacc to produce a

Re: [9fans] all you yacc experts

Reread what I posted. I said that I will modify yacc for different reasons and gave my reasons for doing so. I NEVER said RUN INFERNO. Yes ron, what a lot of noise. And I'll SHOUT whenever I think it might help, Mr aptly named Scatomancer. brucee On 14 November 2011 09:30, Scato Logic

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