Re: [9fans] List of companies that use Plan 9.

2024-05-13 Thread G B via 9fans
Curiously, I searched for Nantalala Systems and found an https link to NANTAHALA SYSTEMS. *BEWARE: SEEMS TO BE BOGUS*  Under "store" they list two workstations they sell, both listed as "sold out" that are  - OS: FreeBSD with ᴁBSD customizations Under ᴁOS (aka ᴁ9) installation me

Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

2024-05-13 Thread G B via 9fans
"I respect your fork 9front but I won't and can't use it. 9front isn't plan9 from my perspective." Then you are still driving a Benz Patent-Motorwagen built in 1885, which is regarded as the first practical modern automobile instead of driving something newer like a Mercedes Benz S-Class or Lex

Re: [9fans] troll paper

2024-04-16 Thread G B via 9fans
Isn't Cue YACL (Yet Another Configuration Language)? Absolutely no way one can deprecate YAML and just use Cue, so all one is doing essentially is adding one more thing to learn and keep updated. And since it hasn't released 1.0, what happens if the new YACL never materializes but was adopted?

Re: [9fans] Plan9 multi-core support

2023-08-28 Thread G B via 9fans
Windows and Linux began on single-core single processor machines. Multiprocessor had been around for some time--IBM's System 360 began using multi-processors in 1968--but not for x86. Plan 9 first edition came out in 1992, at a time when multicore didn't exist, and multicore was released with

[9fans] Firewall/NAT and importing outside interface

2020-05-08 Thread G B via 9fans
I ran across this old post by Dave Presotto when someone inquired about Plan 9 as a firewall: If you have multiple Plan 9 machines, you can use one as an inside/outside machine and just import it's outside interface onto the inside machines.  For example, this is how we configure our outside i

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 64-bit?

2019-01-01 Thread G B
https://code.google.com/archive/p/nix-os/ Nix is a new multicore OS based on Plan9. | | | | Google Code Archive - Long-term storage for Google Code Project Hosting. | | | On Saturday, December 29, 2018, 11:40:47 AM CST, David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com> wrote: > W

[9fans] aux/wpa

2018-09-21 Thread G B
Now that I have 9front installed on my Thinkpad T60 and WiFi is working, how do I get aux/wpa set to run at boot? Do I need to setup a secstore and add wpapsk to factotum?  How does factotum know which to use if you had a key for say mail, aux/wpa, etc? 

Re: [9fans] USB mouse

2018-09-21 Thread G B
reason yet (thus I refrained from writing a mail to the ML). -- Tobias Heinicke On 09/21/2018 06:11 AM, G B wrote: > I asked previously about disabling the touchpad for a Lenovo laptop, but I've > changed things around.  I put FreeBSD on the Lenovo N580 and 9front on the > Thinkpad

[9fans] USB mouse

2018-09-20 Thread G B
I asked previously about disabling the touchpad for a Lenovo laptop, but I've changed things around.  I put FreeBSD on the Lenovo N580 and 9front on the Thinkpad T60.   The good news is I have WiFi working with 9front on the T60, but I can't get a USB mouse to work.  However, if I run Plan 9 fro

[9fans] Touchpad

2018-09-19 Thread G B
I have 9front installed on a Lenovo N580 laptop and am using a USB mouse.  However, the touchpad is killing me.  How can I disable the touchpad so only the mouse moves?

Re: [9fans] 9front VMX

2018-09-10 Thread G B
Thank you. On Monday, September 10, 2018, 12:02:23 PM CDT, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: Very cool! On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 8:02 AM wrote: vmx(1) documentation in the dash1:         http://fqa.9front.org/fqa8.html#8.7.5.1 script i use to run openbsd:         http://plan9.stanleylieber.co

[9fans] 9front VMX

2018-09-10 Thread G B
I'm interested in trying to run OpenBSD using VMX on 9front.  Can someone give me an example of how I'd set this up and run it? % vmx -M 128 -n ether0 bsd Where "bsd" is the OpenBSD 6.2 kernel.  I must be missing more to it than just this?  Thanks for any help.

[9fans] smtpd

2018-02-21 Thread G B
I bought a new machine and can't get Plan 9 from Bell Labs to boot so I've installed 9front.  It works great and is very fast.  I've configured smtpd on the machine and it is getting messages but they're being blocked: Feb 21 10:58:38 Disallowed yahoo.com!gary (sonic307-3.consmr.mail.bf2.yahoo.c

[9fans] smtpd

2018-01-13 Thread G B
Besides my mail receiving messages from invalid users, such as, having a domain named mydomain.com it will accept f...@mydomain.com even though fred is not a valid user.  Shouldn't it bounce the mail?  Also, instead of mail being delivered to /mail/box/$user/mbox everything is going to /mail/q

[9fans] smtpd

2018-01-12 Thread G B
Thanks to the replies I had earlier about setting up a mail server to send and receive mail, it is now working.  Thanks. However, how does email get rejected?  Say I have a domain named mydomain.com but user "fred" doesn't exist, how would an email to f...@mydomain.com be rejected?

[9fans] Spectre and Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread G B
With the release of information about Spectre and Meltdown, and that Microsoft and Linux have released patches for Meltdown and Apple soon to release a patch, I am wondering how Meltdown, or even Spectre, would or wouldn't affect Plan 9 and/or 9front given the use of namespaces.

[9fans] Inferno hosted for browser

2018-01-03 Thread G B
With the prevalence of malware and malfeasance of Javascript I was wondering about the usage of hosted Inferno with modern browsers.  Inferno has the 'os' command which will run a host's commands, and since Inferno has Charon which lacks what some "require" in a browser, is there any benefit in

Re: [9fans] Inferno on Plan9

2017-12-29 Thread G B
I used Inferno from bitbucket.org but wasn't able to build on FreeBSD 11.x/amd64 so I just reverted back to FreeBSD 9.3/i386.  But I may try to build using 11.1/i386 with gcc.  I'll have to use KVM on OpenIndiana to try it though since I don't have a spare physical machine at the moment.

[9fans] Inferno on Plan9

2017-12-23 Thread G B
I've installed Inferno on FreeBSD but how do you build it for Plan 9?  The makemk.sh file and without looking, I think the mkconfig file too, reference gcc.  And the makemk.sh has /bin/sh.  Do I have to install a Bourne or Korn shell plus gcc from contrib to compile? Thanks.

[9fans] HP G62 booting

2017-12-14 Thread G B
I have an older HP G62 laptop with 9front installed.  During installation and subsequent boots it pauses for a long time with these outputs: ehci 0xe000b400: polling ehci 0xe0009600: polling /dev/sdU8883b: Generic-Multi-Card 1.00 The polling messages seem to sit there about 30-40 minutes before

[9fans] smtpd using 9front

2017-12-10 Thread G B
Previously I was using OpenSMTPD on OpenBSD for my smtpd server, but I thought I'd try the 9front smtpd server, but I have some questions if anyone would care to indulge me in getting it setup for multiple domains to accept and send mail. Under 7.7 - Mail server configuration and maintenance 7

[9fans] USB mouse not working

2017-05-05 Thread G B
I have 2 IBM Thinkpad X60 laptops and one of them has Plan 9 from Bell Labs installed and the other has 9front installed. I also have 3 USB mouse devices:  A Dell optical mouse; A Lenovo optical ScrollPoint mouse; An IBM MUY101 3 button optical mouse. The touchpad pointer works on both Bell Labs

[9fans] Starting rio on combined CPU, file and auth

2017-05-04 Thread G B
Fairly new to 9front and Plan 9.  Using 9front and set "service=cpu" but rio doesn't start.  I've tried adding screenrc to /rc/bin/cpurc and /cfg/$sysname/cpustart but gives me errors on /dev/draw.

[9fans] Plan 9 gateway

2016-11-01 Thread G B
Presently I'm running IPF on a FreeBSD firewall.  Maybe I have a huge misunderstanding of a Plan 9 setup, but would it be possible or just not work, to have a standlone CPU server connected to the cable modem, then use trampoline(8) to forward port 80 traffic to another Plan 9 server running ht

[9fans] Auth server

2016-10-24 Thread G B
I've been reading and am in the process of planning a Plan 9 network with a terminal, a couple of CPU servers and a file server; I've read the authentication server can be separate from the CPU server.  Is there any benefit to separating them?  What steps would need to be taken to setup a separ

[9fans] Inferno (native)

2016-03-07 Thread G B
Following the steps in the book "Principles of Operating Systems: Design and Applications" I was able to build a native Inferno .iso image from a FreeBSD 9.3 i386 hosted Inferno. I've booted the Inferno .iso successfully in VirtualBox and get a shell, however it isn't complete, e.g., no Limbo, 8

[9fans] InfernoOS

2016-01-28 Thread G B
I realize this is the Plan 9 mailing list, but hopefully somebody can answer questions about Inferno. Questions: 1) I've successfully built Inferno hosted on FreeBSD 9.3.  How do I enable networking within Inferno?2) I've been able to build a native bootable image that boots in VirtualBox but it