Re: [9fans] Glad tidings of comfort and joy

i have magnet links for the black and white and colour versions of the originals as well. email me for them. can't wait for this! On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:02 PM, Winston Kodogo wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwDOqsu0GZw >

Re: [9fans] Limbo manual

the programming with limbo book is available online for free is you know where to look. there haven't been many changes since it was made afaik, start with that and just read the code. On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 11:14 PM, Roswell Grey wrote: > Hello, > > it seems that the

Re: [9fans] file descriptor leak

what's your fucking problem?

Re: [9fans] file descriptor leak

I've had this problem too, I have yet to resolve it. On Feb 16, 2016 10:54 AM, "arisawa" wrote: > Hello, > > I have observed warning messages from dns server: > dns 30792: warning process exceeded 100 file descriptors > dns 30888: warning process exceeded 200 file

Re: [9fans] Off topic: Linus rants against GCC-isms

this link goes to nothing about gcc

Re: [9fans] Windows drawterm screen size

drawterm-hiro crashes with inferno on Windows 7 64 bit for me. not sure if related.

Re: [9fans] off topic - a good Git reference

that's all we use on 9front, though they might be using a different version. On Oct 3, 2015 3:29 PM, "Jeff Sickel" wrote: > Not unless they forked the fork and fixed the ssl module in the Python > 2.7.9-plan9 branch. > > I’ve not had the time nor energy to finish it off

Re: [9fans] vmware and monitor setup

I never had a problem with vmware 9/10.

Re: [9fans] Printed manuals

you could print then at your local library.

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user.

what didn't work? Are you using the labs distribution, 9front or 9atom?

[9fans] chem preprocessor

BWK wrote a preprocessor for troff for drawing chemical structures long ago. I've ported it to plan 9 with just a small changes. If you would like to try it out just `9fs busybeingbrutal.org`, it's chem.tbz. I have only tested the examples.

Re: [9fans] chem preprocessor

On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Carsten Kunze carsten.ku...@arcor.de wrote: From where did you port it? i found it at http://www.netlib.org/typesetting/chem. the original bundle (chem.sh) in the archive i provided.

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi installer surrogate

I used dd and the 9front img. On Aug 12, 2014 5:43 PM, dante subscripti...@posteo.eu wrote: Dear 9ers, Here is my first contribution. AFAIK, there is no installer yet for the Rasbperry Pi port. Moreover, the Raspberry Pi can only boot from the one SD card (not from USB). This makes the

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi installer surrogate

On Aug 12, 2014 6:09 PM, dante subscripti...@posteo.eu wrote: You got a huge 2GB disk. Moreover, you probably needed an additional PC. I think it's a 32gb sd card but I pxe boot from my cpu/fs. Cheers!

Re: [9fans] Plan9 Sources Repository

Are you intentionally trying to make plan bureaucratic?

Re: [9fans] 2014 hardware overview

The w510 also works with 9front. WiFi works with wpa2 , ethernet works, native screen resolution of 1366x768 does not currently work, it's stretched 1024x768. I'll mange a full list when I'm home. On Jun 29, 2014 3:02 PM, s...@9front.org wrote:

Re: [9fans] dual boot

The last time I dual booted plan 9 I just had to chainload it with grub like you do with Windows.

Re: [9fans] [GSOC] plan9 which arch code to use?

Who would you like to volunteer to do all of this work, that's what it seems like you're trying to do. On May 7, 2014 4:09 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: On Wed May 7 16:00:21 EDT 2014, s...@9front.org wrote: you're missing my point. it's not particularly useful as a

Re: [9fans] writing to /dev/$winid/addr

Then why did you say it was rc? What's wrong with you. On Apr 24, 2014 12:18 AM, Alexander Kapshuk alexander.kaps...@gmail.com wrote: That's OK. It's actually ksh on AIX. Thanks for your feedback anyway. On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 10:34 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:

[9fans] (no subject)

On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 10:51:37 -0400, erik quanstrom wrote: since you mention the host's hardware, i'm a little confused. the host's hardware doesn't make any difference. it's drawterm's bridge between #A and the host's audio device that's the question. has someone done this for os-x? if so,

Re: [9fans] (no subject)

Audio worked with hiro's drawterm and intel hda in 9front.

Re: [9fans] Plumb menu option not working

On Mar 12, 2014 11:25 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: do you have a practical use for this? Exchanging data with remote machines. - erik

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi image

Check the 9front wiki. On Feb 18, 2014 7:15 PM, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be curious to know the methodology for producing this port as well. There is a site where a fellow is describing his efforts to port Inferno to RPi, that is certainly interesting reading... and I

Re: [9fans] Alternative Plan 9 Logo

It's just software, it doesn't need a slogan. On Jan 6, 2014 7:23 PM, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be interested in using it as a logo for my future syncfs work. Can someone think of a catchy tagline? Powered by Plan 9 technology or similar? On Tue, Jan 7, 2014 at 11:07

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

No one is stopping you from changing it in your installation. On Dec 19, 2013 11:38 AM, Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Tristan 9p...@imu.li wrote: I for one favor practical usefulness over theoretical correctness. An environment variable option

Re: [9fans] Problem with mk

You could put NPROC=1 in the mkfile.

Re: [9fans] music storage

I've used/have been using plan 9 (9front) for music listening, I haven't tried ripping a cd yet. I had written something in rc that took a directory name and just used play to play whatever was there. Nothing spectacular.

Re: [9fans] music storage

On Dec 8, 2013 10:55 PM, Conor Williams conor.willi...@gmail.com wrote: yeah ok, but why did he not rip to mp3 is what I mean... I have an already existing collection of all of my cds, I didn't see the need to do it again.

Re: [9fans] music storage

Rip them again, that is.

Re: [9fans] VMware and 9atom

I've been using 9front (cpu/auth/cwfs) in vmware for almost a year with no problems. It even supports hda-intel sound.

Re: [9fans] VMware and 9atom

On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:35 PM, Christopher Nielsen cniel...@pobox.com wrote: Just installed 9front in a VM, and it worked fine. Two things. First, it didn't ask me for systype as the documentation suggests it's supposed to. No problem. I can sort that out on my own, but it would be nice if

Re: [9fans] VMware and 9atom

On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Christopher Nielsen cniel...@pobox.com wrote: Sadly, no. That would have been my first choice, if it were an option. I know ahci works great in 9atom. I'll give virtualbox a whirl. You would probably be better off using qemu than virtualbox.

Re: [9fans] i'm afraid we've had it wrong

it's good to know where we went wrong. On Sun, Sep 29, 2013 at 12:55 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: after all these years: http://www.di.unipi.it/~nids/docs/the_plan-9_effect.html

Re: [9fans] Python3 for Plan9

No, sorry. On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 7:13 PM, Devyn Collier Johnson devyncjohn...@gmail.com wrote: Aloha Plan9 fans! I am new to Plan9 and I plan to use it for robotics. However, I am unable to find a Python3 interpreter that would run on a Plan9 system on an ARM system. Does such a package

Re: [9fans] p9p export or equivalent

u9fs. On Aug 1, 2013 12:31 PM, smi...@icebubble.org wrote: I just noticed that plan9port doesn't have a version of the Plan 9 export command. Has it not been ported yet? Short of setting up that 800lb gorilla known as NFS and using Plan 9's nfs client, how might one share files on a *nux

Re: [9fans] test(1) -older bug?

On Jun 3, 2013 6:49 AM, Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: And the consequences of not freeing a few bytes of memory, in a command which will exit a few microseconds later, would be ... ? bad taste.

Re: [9fans] Go tip build fails

I'm experiencing the same problem.

Re: [9fans] Plan 9's clock for p9p

I think there's a port of clock for p9p on sources, though I don't remember where it was.

Re: [9fans] [9pi] standardize \ normalize setting dns in

Then why don't you add it to termrc.local? That's what it is for.

Re: [9fans] gcc not an option for Plan9

Stop.

Re: [9fans] raspberry pi plan 9 image

What error are you getting?

Re: [9fans] what are people using for IRC these days

On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 6:12 PM, John Floren j...@jfloren.net wrote: So, while my IRC bouncer runs on my Plan 9 server, I've been connecting to it using Linux and Windows clients. Now that I've got my rpi set up with a nice monitor and everything, I'm looking at IRC on Plan 9 again. What

Re: [9fans] 9atom

On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 6:25 PM, John Floren j...@jfloren.net wrote: On Sat, Jan 5, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Rox 64 mrox...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe should I try 9front instead? I read they made a new bootloader to fix that issue. The PC kernel is also (supposed to be) multiboot-compliant, so you

Re: [9fans] Good sample GUI code (window creation, management,

9.intro.pdf has examples of creating windows iirc; also, check the rio source. On Dec 19, 2012 6:18 AM, Luke Evans luke.ev...@gmail.com wrote: I thought I had bumped into a short example on the web for creating a window in C, but can't seem to find it again. I'm sure I could search all the

Re: [9fans] Summary of acme chords

Aren't all of the chords in the acme paper and/or man page? On Apr 25, 2012 4:46 AM, Brian Vito brian.v...@gmail.com wrote: I've put together a rudimentary chart of acme chords -- if anyone has any suggestions, revisions, corrections, etc., they would be greatly appreciated. Eventually the

Re: [9fans] 9vx instability

The constitution and the gettysburg address are in there, too. On Nov 26, 2011 6:51 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: 9front seems to me to define itself as: having fun while getting useful stuff done. With an emphasis in *fun* and in not taking anything too seriously, while

Re: [9fans] double posting

I noticed on 9srv that I received duplicates, buy gmail hasn't show any of them (or I don't remember reading them). It started on the 24th.

Re: [9fans] inferno on android on slashdot

He clearly knows what he is taking about. On Sep 18, 2011 3:26 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: There was one comment amongst the noise which I thought insightful: this one did it for me: http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2433228cid=37432862 Everything inside

Re: [9fans] rc scripts in /386/bin/aux

On Aug 9, 2011 6:30 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: On Tue Aug 9 18:26:01 EDT 2011, lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: the tradition has been to copy scripts into /$cputype/bin/$somesubdir for every arch. I've always been under the impression they went in /rc/bin/.

Re: [9fans] mail client; general question web vs command

Acme has Mail. It doesn't do threading like mutt or anything, but it works.

Re: [9fans] interesting(?) widgets idea

On Jul 11, 2011 12:14 PM, Peter A. Cejchan wrote however, my point was another: aint you annoyed by needless things that just consume your pixels?? can't it all be done more efficiently?? even if the win borders were 1px wide, wont it be more elegant at least? and why should acme's tagline (s)

Re: [9fans] novel userspace paradigms introduced by plan 9

Private namespaces.

Re: [9fans] Mousing is faster than typing but users do not believe it

There's an article on the wiki containing links to related info, also.

Re: [9fans] unable to start plan9 on atom330 in virtualbox

Plan 9 hasn't worked with virtual box for as long as i can remember. Try it with qemu if you can. On Jun 11, 2011 5:58 PM, Cr0t cr0t...@gmail.com wrote: I am unable to load plan9 on the latest version of virtualbox. - C

Re: [9fans] where is the latest drawterm source?

I think it's on bitbucket.

Re: [9fans] crazy idea - drawterm in javascript?

Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing something that accesses plan 9 from the web will be less hard. On May 17, 2011 6:53 PM, errno er...@cox.net wrote: On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:31:32 AM John Floren wrote: they want to let you connect to your Plan 9 system from a web

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 IRL

Coraid uses plan 9 in a few places; I think firmware that ships with their hardware is a stripped down plan 9. I know there's other companies that use plan 9, but I'm drawing a blank on them right now.

Re: [9fans] Compiling 9atom kernel WAS: Re: spaces in filenames

On Apr 29, 2011 6:21 AM, errno er...@cox.net wrote: On Friday, April 29, 2011 02:04:26 AM Charles Forsyth wrote: [1] For those gnashing teeth over glibc - might want to check out musl libc. It's no plan 9 libc, but it's definitely less worse than glibc. ``News: As of version 0.7.7,

Re: [9fans] Q: moving directories? hard links?

dircp and bind(1). On Apr 15, 2011 10:39 PM, smi...@zenzebra.mv.com wrote: Hello, I've been about Plan 9... there are lots of goodies there under /sys/doc. However, I have a couple of lingering questions that don't seem to be answered anywhere: Observation 1: There doesn't seem to be any

[9fans] Acid trips video

Is there any full version of Russ' iwp9 2007 talk about acid available anywhere? The version from http://mirror.cat-v.org/iwp9/2007/videos ends abruptly.

Re: [9fans] GSoC Widget library

Plan 9 already has a widget philosophy, it just needs to be applied to a library (supposedly).

Re: [9fans] GSoC Widget library

I like the former more. On Apr 1, 2011 7:22 PM, pmarin pmarin.m...@gmail.com wrote: Which one? Acme/Abaco style or TK/limbo or panel library... On Sat, Apr 2, 2011 at 1:00 AM, Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: Plan 9 already has a widget philosophy, it just needs to be applied

Re: [9fans] Installation woes

1. I can't help you there 2. If you can use kvm+kqemu, that will speed disk speed, c (that's been my experience). I couldn't do networking for some reason that had to do with my wireless card. 3. VirtualBox is known to mostly not work, though some people have managed to get it to. Vmware should

Re: [9fans] Encrypting file systems

' for using the system. On Mar 30, 2011 1:21 PM, smi...@zenzebra.mv.com wrote: Jacob Todd jaketodd...@gmail.com writes: There's two implementations that i know of: one is in russ' contrib, and there another one called cbfs (i think), which is also on contrib, although i don't remember where. The latter

Re: [9fans] Problem installing

After you mount /dev/sdD0/data to 'find' the distribution, when you get to the prompt to look around the fs, just type exit in /. Installation will proceed from there.

Re: [9fans] Encrypting file systems

There's two implementations that i know of: one is in russ' contrib, and there another one called cbfs (i think), which is also on contrib, although i don't remember where. The latter version could be russ' implementation with changes, it's been a while since I tried either. Russ' didn't compile

Re: [9fans] how can I set path

You don't. You may want read /sys/doc/9.ps.

Re: [9fans] how can I set path

bind -a /usr/glenda/inferno/Plan9/386/bin /bin

Re: [9fans] troff macros for typesetting books/longer texts

There's 'Document formatting and Typesetting on the Unix System, Vol. I II' by Narain Gehani and Steven Lally. They're available on alibris at a cheap price. I unfortunately haven't had time to read them yet. I know there's also more listed at troff.org. On Mar 22, 2011 2:46 PM,

Re: [9fans] New venti install won't boot after 05:00 crash

Did you zero the plan 9 partition first? I recall having a problem like this when installing over an existing plan 9 installation, all i had to do was zero that partition and everything worked fine after that.

Re: [9fans] a little frustrated

What's your point?

Re: [9fans] changing font size acme 9term plan 9 from user space

Set $font to the font you want. I use $PLAN9/fonts/fixed/unicode.6x12.font, there's plenty of other sizes, though. On Feb 26, 2011 7:20 AM, Sasha and Tanya Kapshuk sashaandta...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I'm using Plan 9 from user space on Debian Squeeze. I'd like to change the font size in both

Re: [9fans] Small Plan9 box suggestions.

Does inferno have support for (a) webcam(s)? Or are you using linux for capturing things from the webcam? On Feb 25, 2011 9:14 AM, Jack Norton j...@0x6a.com wrote: Jason Dreisbach wrote: Hi all, Can anyone help shed some light in my search for a low power minimal plan 9 hardware setup to

Re: [9fans] 9vx versions

There's yiyus' and rminnichs' verions on bitbucket, just search for 9vx there and you should find them. I think ron's is a fork of yiyus', I'm not completely sufe how much the differ.

Re: [9fans] 9p to SMB

There's aquarela(8) and cifs(4). On Feb 5, 2011 8:43 AM, dexen deVries dexen.devr...@gmail.com wrote:

Re: [9fans] RESOLVED: recoving important header file rudely

On Feb 1, 2011 1:05 AM, smi...@zenzebra.mv.com wrote: Reading about Plan 9, I was quite excited to install it. I was quite excited when I first booted and ran it, too. But I distinctly felt my heart sink a little the first time it hung. Since then, I've browsed some of the OS source code

Re: [9fans] Modern development language for Plan 9, WAS: Re: RESOLVED: recoving important header file rudely

And russ cox, and everyone else in the CONTRIBUTORS file. On Feb 2, 2011 12:39 AM, Scott Sullivan sc...@ss.org wrote:

Re: [9fans] PUSH sources for Plan 9

http://code.google.com/p/push/

Re: [9fans] maintaining p9p

Setting NPROC to a reasonable number with cause mk to build n targets at once. I set NPROC to 8 (the number of threads my cpu has) and p9p rebuilds in less than 5 minutes.

Re: [9fans] uncommon sights

Cat /dev/screenfile Or something like that. Not hard at all.

Re: [9fans] sound, graphics, tuner

http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~412/history/2006F/ac97 There's no source there, but you could probably find an email address at http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~412 for someone who does have the source. It could be on sources, though, I haven't checked. On Jan 17, 2011 8:36 AM, Pavel Klinkovsky

Re: [9fans] 9doom

I emailed james yesterday, no response yet. On Jan 16, 2011 2:22 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg (VE6BBM/VE7TFX) lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote: Does anyone have a copy of the 9doom code they could put up on contrib?

Re: [9fans] 9doom

http://jtomaschke.blogspot.com/ James was able to get the renderer working, and it could play through demos. It even had sound. Input needed to be worked out, though.

Re: [9fans] is this crazy?

I didn't think it was possible for me to hate 'tim and eric awesome show' any more than I already did. I was wrong.

Re: [9fans] plan9 compatible notebook

Check the wiki page 'supported hardware.' There's at least one thinkpad on the list.

Re: [9fans] plan9 compatible notebook

My dell inspiron 1000 works fairly well with plan 9, too. The ethernet device doesn't work (there is a driver for it, there's some niggle with the card, I suppose). Usb works, video works, sound doesn't, however. The sound card is some intel card (intel-8x0 driver on lunix).

Re: [9fans] sound, graphics, tuner

The hg repo for 9doom has been down for ages, so that's not possible atm.

Re: [9fans] inferno emu on arm

Set $objtype to arm in mkconfig? On Jan 14, 2011 6:08 PM, Tharaneedharan Vilwanathan vdhar...@gmail.com wrote: hi all, i am trying to run inferno emu on plan9 running on sheevaplug. does anyone know how to build emu for arm? i am surprised that it is missing in inferno-os repository. or am i

Re: [9fans] Noob says Hi ..

On Jan 13, 2011 9:32 AM, Duke Normandin dukeofp...@ml1.net wrote: Hello 9fans ... I'm _totally_ new to Plan9! Two days ago I had never heard of it. Yesterday I DLed the LiveCD - now I want to know more. The closest I've come to such an OS as Plan9, is the Native Oberon OS. I have a

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

Maybe a gigabyte if you used a separate vm for cpu, auth and the fs. You can combine cpu/auth and even the file server into one if you wanted. On Jan 13, 2011 2:34 PM, Duke Normandin dukeofp...@ml1.net wrote: On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: if the intent is to get a full

Re: [9fans] Plan9 topology

On Jan 13, 2011 11:33 PM, Duke Normandin dukeofp...@ml1.net wrote: On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, John Floren wrote: On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Duke Normandin dukeofp...@ml1.net wrote: [snip] What is the minimum HDD capacity required to run an Auth/cpu/fs server with Venti support?

Re: [9fans] gumstix displays

Seems a little small for a terminal, 4.3 at 480x272 resolution. Maybe I'm crazy.

Re: [9fans] Plan9 development

The full standard c library isn't included in a statically linked executable. Only what's needed is, at least on plan 9, i have no idea what gcc does. On Nov 14, 2010 3:14 AM, Gary V. Vaughan g...@vaughan.pe wrote: Hi Erik et. al, Thanks for the feedback, all. On 14 Nov 2010, at 13:24, erik

Re: [9fans] Google code-in?

Code-in? Could you elaborate? On Nov 5, 2010 1:22 PM, EBo e...@sandien.com wrote: Google just announced a code-in. Is Plan9 participating? EBo --

Re: [9fans] Preferred ARM platform?

Iirc, at iwp9 geoff said in so many words that the beagleboard was having problems with undocumented..stuff. The video is on livestream.com/iwp9 if you want to watch it.

[9fans] Parallel mk?

Does mk ever parallel-ize? With make you have the -j# option, does mk have a similar feature? Skimming through the man page I don't see anything.

Re: [9fans] Parallel mk?

Thanks andrey. Now to get plan 9 running on my core i7 thinkpad.

Re: [9fans] πp

Eh, what's Πp?

Re: [9fans] wiki down?

Iirc eric made something to report these things to the correct people. There's a group called 9nag on google groups that it uses.

Re: [9fans] So, why Plan 9?

There's APE, the Ansi Posix Environment. On Oct 12, 2010 4:40 AM, Aleksandar Kuktin akuk...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:45:02 +, Bruce Ellis wrote: Very succinct, and better than I could do 'til the coffee kicks in. You could have pointed out that the entire source tree is

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