Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans mailing list
The reason things are so insecure is because the US government likes it that way, desinged it that way and does everything it can to keep it that way. They are the beyond a doubt the biggest gang of organized criminals on earth : liars, murderers, spies ... you name it. Thanks for welcoming me to the list ... but I see you use google yourself ... second only to the US government as spies ... soon to surpass, I'm sure. I use yahoo trash mail for the list because I'd like to keep my 'real' email address to myself (when I find one). You deliver all your correspondents's mail to the googleplex along with your own. You have a choice ... but you foreclose your correspondents' ... if they want to correspond with you. Google has it all. -- This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient. John Francis Lee 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai T.Ropwiang A.Mueang J.Chiangrai 57000 Thailand On Wed, 8/6/14, Nick LaForge nicklafo...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans mailing list To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs 9fans@9fans.net Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 10:16 AM And, today especially, that advice applies to everybody: http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_26281956/record-breaking-data-breach-highlights-widespread-security-flaws On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:14 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: 3224522 please change your password for this mailing list. this one is out in public. i hope you aren't reusing passwords.
Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans mailing list
sorry ... I didn't realize I was replying to the list ... the email I got came from an individual -- This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient. John Francis Lee 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai T.Ropwiang A.Mueang J.Chiangrai 57000 Thailand On Wed, 8/13/14, Shane Morris edgecombe...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans mailing list To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs 9fans@9fans.net Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2014, 2:37 PM You should amend that This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient. with something about shadowy Goggle like computers feltching information on your spending habits... The world changed on us Marty - and without our help, I might add... On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:29 PM, John Francis Lee jf...@yahoo.com wrote: The reason things are so insecure is because the US government likes it that way, desinged it that way and does everything it can to keep it that way. They are the beyond a doubt the biggest gang of organized criminals on earth : liars, murderers, spies ... you name it. Thanks for welcoming me to the list ... but I see you use google yourself ... second only to the US government as spies ... soon to surpass, I'm sure. I use yahoo trash mail for the list because I'd like to keep my 'real' email address to myself (when I find one). You deliver all your correspondents's mail to the googleplex along with your own. You have a choice ... but you foreclose your correspondents' ... if they want to correspond with you. Google has it all. -- This message has been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA without notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient. John Francis Lee 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai T.Ropwiang A.Mueang J.Chiangrai 57000 Thailand On Wed, 8/6/14, Nick LaForge nicklafo...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: Re: [9fans] Welcome to the 9fans mailing list To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs 9fans@9fans.net Date: Wednesday, August 6, 2014, 10:16 AM And, today especially, that advice applies to everybody: http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_26281956/record-breaking-data-breach-highlights-widespread-security-flaws On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 5:14 PM, andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: You must know your password to change your options (including changing the password, itself) or to unsubscribe. It is: 3224522 please change your password for this mailing list. this one is out in public. i hope you aren't reusing passwords.
Re: [9fans] file server speed
Sorry, found it now. On 07/17/2014 07:31 AM, Steven Stallion wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 7:29 PM, Steven Stallion sstall...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 6:15 PM, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: It just so happens I wrote a README at the time since it was non-obvious how to set it up correctly: Corrected link: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/102312978/FOSSIL%2BVENTI -- John Francis Lee Thanon Sanam Gila, Ban Fa Sai 79/151 Moo 22 T. Ropwieng Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand
Re: [9fans] file server speed
Not Found The resource could not be found. WSGI Server On 07/17/2014 07:29 AM, Steven Stallion wrote: On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 6:15 PM, kokam...@hera.eonet.ne.jp wrote: That was in an office environment. At home I use fossil+(plan9port)venti running on linux-based NAS. Do you use wireless LAN? If so you also need wireless bridge? The combination of NAS and venti sounds like charm, because the snmallest config is two machines. How about the power-eating of that machine? Recent low-power machine can do that task? I've used ReadyNAS appliances at home for almost 10 years. The current product line is made up of low-power Atoms. I'm running a RAID5 across 4 500G enterprise SATA drives (that should indicate how old this unit is pretty well...) I have a wired network primarily in the rack in the office at home - I absolutely would not use wireless to connect fossil to venti (fossil does *not* cope well with the connection to venti dropping). I switched over to fossil on the ReadyNAS a little over a year ago and have had really good luck; not a single crash. Performance has also been very good. It just so happens I wrote a README at the time since it was non-obvious how to set it up correctly: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/102312978/FOSSIL Cheers, Steve -- John Francis Lee Thanon Sanam Gila, Ban Fa Sai 79/151 Moo 22 T. Ropwieng Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand
Re: [9fans] Go and 21-bit runes (and a bit of Go status)
On 12/03/2013 11:47 PM, Charles Forsyth wrote: On 3 December 2013 16:04, lu...@proxima.alt.za mailto:lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: To keep the Go distribution honest? Eventually, we'd want as much convergence as possible, forking the library would make it easier to diverge without consequences. but it's not a question of forking the library. there's a ton of stuff under go/src, so what makes libbio special? why not just compile the one there for its use, which is the one it expects? the output goes into a go-specific target directory; what else will care? google and the nsa will care ? -- -- Hi there, NSA 'analysts', in-house and/or contracted. Just reminding you that if you are reading this you are committing a crime, that you are felons mocking the 4th Amendment of our US Constitution ... The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. ... and that someday, really soon I hope, you're going to have to pay for your crimes. You're breaking international laws as well, so if you're thinking of the 'I was only following orders!' defense ... Please see Nuremberg Principle IV ... The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him. ... and start exercising your moral choice. Look upon Thomas Andrews Drake and Edward Snowden as your exemplars and Patron Saints.
Re: [9fans] 64-bit usb boot environment
Object not found The object /other/usbtest.bz2 does not exist on this server. errstr: '/usr/web/ftp/other/usbtest.bz2' directory entry not found uri host: header host: ftp.quanstro.net actual host: ladd.quanstro.net On 10/21/2013 11:48 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: this isn't perfect, or complete, but there is a minimal 64-bit and/or 386/pae usb boot environment here http://ftp.quanstro.net/other/usbtest.bz2. it's only 10mb, so it should be a quick download. the reason for building this was to quickly debug a system that wouldn't install, but it might be interesting to try out. a few random notes and gotchas: 0. with dhcp, one can get to get to the full distribution with: ip/ipconfig ndb/dns 9fs atom 1. you will find the usb boot device @ /dev/sdu0, a loopback device. 2. there is a bug in kfs (patched in 9atom; patch submitted to sources) to be aware of. so be careful if using tools from sources on 64-bit kernels. 3. finally, there's (by plan 9 standards) quite a bit of acpi support in the 64-bit kernel. power events have been somewhat rashly turned on, and may cause trouble. as always, i'd be interested in any reports of success or failure. - erik -- john francis lee 246/3 Moo 22 Thanon Kaew Wai Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand Hi there, NSA 'analysts', in-house and/or contracted. Just reminding you that if you are reading this you are committing a crime, that you are felons mocking the 4th Amendment of our US Constitution ... The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. ... and that someday, really soon I hope, you're going to have to pay for your crimes. You're breaking international laws as well, so if you're thinking of the 'I was only following orders!' 'defense' ... Please see Nuremberg Principle IV ... The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him. ... and start exercising your moral choice. Look upon Thomas Andrews Drake and Edward Snowden as your exemplars and Patron Saints.
Re: [9fans] 64-bit usb boot environment
thanks. On 10/22/2013 01:50 AM, Gabriel Diaz wrote: Hello I think the correct url is: http://newftp.9atom.org/other/usbtest.bz2 regards, gabi From: 9fans-boun...@9fans.net [mailto:9fans-boun...@9fans.net] On Behalf Of john francis lee Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 1:07 AM To: Fans of the OS Plan 9 from Bell Labs Subject: Re: [9fans] 64-bit usb boot environment Object not found The object /other/usbtest.bz2 does not exist on this server. errstr: '/usr/web/ftp/other/usbtest.bz2' directory entry not found uri host: header host: ftp.quanstro.net actual host: ladd.quanstro.net On 10/21/2013 11:48 AM, erik quanstrom wrote: this isn't perfect, or complete, but there is a minimal 64-bit and/or 386/pae usb boot environment here http://ftp.quanstro.net/other/usbtest.bz2. it's only 10mb, so it should be a quick download. the reason for building this was to quickly debug a system that wouldn't install, but it might be interesting to try out. a few random notes and gotchas: 0. with dhcp, one can get to get to the full distribution with: ip/ipconfig ndb/dns 9fs atom 1. you will find the usb boot device @ /dev/sdu0, a loopback device. 2. there is a bug in kfs (patched in 9atom; patch submitted to sources) to be aware of. so be careful if using tools from sources on 64-bit kernels. 3. finally, there's (by plan 9 standards) quite a bit of acpi support in the 64-bit kernel. power events have been somewhat rashly turned on, and may cause trouble. as always, i'd be interested in any reports of success or failure. - erik -- john francis lee 246/3 Moo 22 Thanon Kaew Wai Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand Hi there, NSA 'analysts', in-house and/or contracted. Just reminding you that if you are reading this you are committing a crime, that you are felons mocking the 4th Amendment of our US Constitution ... The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized. ... and that someday, really soon I hope, you're going to have to pay for your crimes. You're breaking international laws as well, so if you're thinking of the 'I was only following orders!' 'defense' ... Please see Nuremberg Principle IV ... The fact that a person acted pursuant to order of his Government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him. ... and start exercising your moral choice. Look upon Thomas Andrews Drake and Edward Snowden as your exemplars and Patron Saints.
Re: [9fans] Moderator's Note: comp.os.plan9 Newsgroup.
Isn't google the now well-known devil itself ? On 07/15/2013 11:04 PM, hiro wrote: Will your replacement set up a facebook or google-plus relay then? I thought about this already for quite some time after I've seen the successful migration of both tech-savy and novice users to web 2.0 services. There is just no way to argue against finally making it possible to fully exploit our modern touch-interfaces that also make it so trivial to include scrolling media rich content, images, videos without the typical mimecode problems. On 7/15/13, 9f...@mail2news.bath.ac.uk 9f...@mail2news.bath.ac.uk wrote: The comp.os.plan9 Usenet Newsgroup is a moderated Newsgroup. Articles require approval before being posted. It has been moderated from here, the University of Bath, since the 1990's. I, the current moderator, will be leaving the University at the end of this month and our Usenet server will be turned off in late August of this year. So a new moderator for comp.os.plan9 is required. Newsgroup articles are also sent to the 9fans mailing list. Messages sent to the 9fans mailing list are auto-injected into the comp.os.plan9 Usenet Newsgroup. This bi-directional gateway will disappear when our Usenet server is turned off. So a volunteer to take over this service is also required. Further details of the above are given below. Moderating the Newsgroup isn't labour-intensive. For example I've approved and posted some 18 articles in the last three months. The vast majority of these articles have arrived via Google Groups. The moderator will need access to a Usenet system and have the right to post articles to a moderated Newsgroup. I.e. articles from the moderator which include an Approved: header are accepted. Volunteer moderators are requested. I suspect the reason that moderating the Newsgroup isn't arduous is that the majority of the articles in the comp.os.plan9 Newsgroup are gatewayed in from the 9fans mailing list at: http://plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/mailing_lists/ and most serious plan9 adherents are members of this mailing list. Currently our Usenet server acts as a bi-directional gateway. The articles from the 9fans mailing list are injected into the comp.os.plan9 Newsgroup and articles approved for the Newsgroup are sent on to the mailing list. Gatewaying the 9fans mailing list into the Newsgroup will obviously keep running until our Usenet server is switched off, but a replacement elsewhere is ideally required. The minimum requirement for gatewaying mailing list articles into the Newsgroup is to be subscribed to the 9fans mailing list and have access to a Usenet system with the right to post articles to a moderated Newsgroup. Manually injecting 9fans mailing list articles into the Newsgroup is labour-intensive. It needs to be automated. There are probably several ways of doing this, but we've set this up directly on our Usenet server. Our setup is similar to the following. We use the mail domain mail2news.bath.ac.uk for mailing lists we wish to inject into Newsgroups. Mail for this domain is handled by the Usenet server, which is running exim as its MTA and INN as its Usenet software. All incoming email is checked for viruses using ClamAV. An address in the mail2news.bath.ac.uk domain is subscribed to the 9fans mailing list. Email arriving for this address is checked to see it has the correct envelope sender (9fans-boun...@9fans.net). If so, the INN program mailpost is used to inject the message into the Newsgroup. The mailpost program keeps a record of the Message-ID's it has seen. So there's no problem with looping, ie the attempted injection of the same message a repeated number of times. Newsgroup articles could be injected into the mailing list by using INN news2mail channel script. However, betraying my original Cnews roots, this is done by a shell script driven by the fragment: # Inject articles posted to the comp.os.plan9 Newsgroup back into # the mailing list, 9fans@9fans.net, using a locally written script. # The script should include safeguards against looping, ie not # re-injecting articles that originally came from the mailing list. plan9mail!\ :comp.os.plan9\ :Tp:/opt/news/bin/plan9mail %s in INN's newsfeeds file. The above script uses the news2mail program from the antique but usable newsgate.tar.Z package to send email. The anti-looping checks include ensuring the Newsgroup article doesn't include a header of the form: X-BeenThere: 9fans@9fans.net which indicates this was a 9fans mailing list article injected into Newsgroup. The above may sound complex, but it's fairly maintenance free once set up. We clearly won't be able to continue with this service once our Usenet server is decommissioned. A volunteer to set up and run a similar service is required. -- Dennis Davis, BUCS, University of Bath, Bath, BA2 7AY, UK d.h.da...@bath.ac.uk Phone: +44 1225 386101 -- john francis lee 246/3 Moo 22 Thanon Kaew Wai Mueang Chiangrai
[9fans] public accounts for interested folks at 9srv.net
From: Anthony Sorace a@9sr... Subject: Governance question??? Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 12:08:44 -0400 I wrote a couple of emails to a...@9srv.net but never got a reply ... did I misunderstand what seemed to me to be an invitation, or did my email or the reply get treated as spam, or have I failed the silent screening? 9srv.net (which I run) provides public accounts for interested folks. See the wiki for instructions on making a request. It's not as well-developed as tip9ug was, and we've got about a dozen users (same caveat as above), but it's growing. I would like to do something like tip9ug's faces page, but haven't gotten there yet. Anthony -- This message may have been intercepted and read by U.S. government agencies including the FBI, CIA, and NSA and/or the present government of Thailand without notice or warrant or knowledge of sender or recipient. John Francis Lee 246/3 Thanon Kaew Wai Mueang Chiangrai 57000 Thailand
