On Sep 3, 2010, at 11:16 AM, Rudolf Sykora wrote:
3) Although eqn produces worse result than TeX, I like the way
formulae are input, and thus have used it. Sometimes I need bold
italics, which I achieve by overstriking. This isn't ideal, maybe
using a special bold italics font would be better.
On Jun 30, 2010, at 2:43 PM, ron minnich wrote:
as long as you don't care about the (observed) 100:1 ratio of XML glop
to data in, e.g., the Python XMLRPC stuff, it's great. Yep, I observed
that ratio when Xen made the cut to XML-RPC: 3000 bytes of RPC to send
30 bytes of data. It's impressive:
On Jun 29, 2010, at 4:03 AM, yy wrote:
By the way, you should be able to deactivate compilation of the tap
(or pcap) ether device with the variable PLAN9TAP (PLAN9PCAP) in
Makefrag.
Okay, I did so but I still get the crash as before. Here's a gdb
backtrace:
#0 0x919366fa in
On Jun 29, 2010, at 7:11 PM, John Floren wrote:
Hey, there's a way to end the mouse/keyboard switching argument once
and for all! With 18 buttons, you can just make the mouse a chording
keyboard as well and never move your hand from the mouse.
Amputees around the world jump for joy.
Also as a
On Jun 28, 2010, at 12:40 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
guess i forgot the bind /tmp /sys/lib/lp/tmp. lp is
pretty complicated.
- erik
Thanks, now it worked. I decided to investigate the issue further with
what you gave me and I found that all I needed to get it to work was the
bind
Actually, on further investigation it turns out while dircp /n/sources/
plan9/sys/lib/postscript dir works fine, diff -r dir /n/sources/plan9/
sys/lib/postscript gives me the same diff log, and diff -r dir olddir
tells me they're identical. So what's going on here...
On Jun 28, 2010, at 9:09 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
On Mon Jun 28 02:37:21 EDT 2010, pietr...@mac.com wrote:
Actually, on further investigation it turns out while dircp /n/
sources/
plan9/sys/lib/postscript dir works fine, diff -r dir /n/sources/
plan9/
sys/lib/postscript gives me the same
On Jun 28, 2010, at 11:04 AM, ron minnich wrote:
well, once again, ratrace can be a good tool for understanding things
that don't make sense. I use it all the time for this type of problem
and the results are frequently illuminating.
ron
First I found a slight building problem on Mac OS X
From an install to 9vx (built from mercurial on OS X 10.5.8) from
yesterday's CD image (though apparently some people on IRC have this
problem too):
term% man -P man
converting from troff to postscript...
reading through postscript...
Ghostscript Error:
postnote 307: sys: write on closed
On Jun 27, 2010, at 9:56 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
i can't reproduce your results:
Huh. Using your suggested command line I get the following:
converting from troff to postscript...
/tmp/lp174: rc (generic): can't open: '/tmp/lp174' permission denied
reading through postscript...
cannot find
Just a thought.
Is Rails even necessary? Other server-side alternatives do exist, and
they can be written. IIRC, the author of rit mentioned it being used
in his Pegasus server...
On Apr 16, 2009, at 1:50 PM, Devon H. O'Dell wrote:
MVC development model
Good point. I think I'll get started porting Cocoa to Plan 9. =P
Plan 9 in the home... an interesting experiment. (I am the only one in
my home who uses it.) Enjoy!
My message contains references to files in /n/sources/contrib. When
you get your internet up in Plan 9, use
9fs sources
to gain access to this folder. PostScript and PDF files can
On Apr 14, 2009, at 8:36 AM, Pietro Gagliardi wrote:
juke(6) for how to go about playing music.
that should be juke(7), sorry.
On Mar 26, 2009, at 3:32 AM, André Günther wrote:
[1] http://www.minithink.org/mock.jpg
(Sorry for the image quality)
I just tried giving that to Interface Builder. Apparently, toolbars
can only be on the horizontal in Cocoa Touch. But this is an
interesting start.
The problem of how to
On Mar 26, 2009, at 3:35 PM, Eric Van Hensbergen wrote:
I'm merely trying to debunk roadblocks which others
seem to want to through in his way.
I don't want to throw a roadblock in this student's way. (In fact,
drawterm on iPhone benefits me too, though that benefit would come in
or after
Killed. From the license agreement for iPhone developers (which
requires a free Apple Developer Connection account to view; sorry):
3.3.3 Without Apple’s prior written approval, an Application may not
provide, unlock or enable a enable additional features or
functionality through
Also, we obviously cannot use rio, unless we greatly restrict the
user's visibility. Unless we provide zooming?
Maybe a text-based environment that runs exclusively off rc, sam,
acme, etc. with the standard keyboard at the bottom:
Exitdrawterm Commands
On Feb 24, 2009, at 5:49 PM, Fernan Bolando wrote:
not sure where USED(s); is implemented.
It tells the compiler not to print the warning
s: set but not used
Styles aren't in the libplot that plot uses as an engine. I can add
them in the next few days if you want.
On Feb 24, 2009, at 5:59 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
Sorry Erik I dont particuarly understand your reply
I am guessing that it's referring to pe working for lines only.
it only claims
I am a high school student and have a GPA; I know it's higher than 3.2.
What are the requirements for Murray Hill?
On Feb 13, 2009, at 6:46 PM, jimmy brisson wrote:
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 11:12 PM, Akshat Kumar
aku...@mail.nanosouffle.net wrote:
What Plan 9 user has a GPA at all?
ak
On Feb 9, 2009, at 5:09 AM, c...@gli.cas.cz wrote:
?
++pac
This is my only concern over the whole sources is gone thing; this
time the web interface has been down for longer than usual (two weeks,
maybe more?).
I'm trying to transfer files from my Plan 9 virtual PC to Mac OS X for
printing; QEMU has no USB yet and SAMBA fails on Mac OS X Leopard. I
print on systems without plan9ports, and where I have no development
tools (so I can't build it). Right now I've been using my FTP server,
but it
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I misunderstood what they meant by debugging. PGP is doing nothing
wrong; I thought there was debugging info in the email.
On Feb 5, 2009, at 8:16 AM, erik quanstrom wrote:
What do you mean? Could you paste the raw text data for one of my
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On Feb 4, 2009, at 9:28 PM, Uriel wrote:
For those that enjoy fixing bugs:
% echo foo | sed
's/..a|..b|..c|..d|..e|..f|..g|..h|..i|..j|..k|..l|..m|..n|..o|..p//g'
Will crash both native and p9p sed.
Yes, I know it is a nonsensical expression,
becomes null.
On Feb 4, 2009, at 9:59 PM, Pietro Gagliardi wrote:
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On Feb 4, 2009, at 9:28 PM, Uriel wrote:
For those that enjoy fixing bugs:
% echo foo | sed
's/..a|..b|..c|..d|..e|..f|..g|..h|..i|..j|..k|..l|..m|..n|..o|..p//
g'
Will crash both
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The bug doesn't seem to be in sed. The match() function calls
rregexec(), which sets a strucuture that is set to loc2, which is made
null for some reason.
On Feb 4, 2009, at 10:08 PM, Pietro Gagliardi wrote:
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On Feb 4, 2009, at 10:58 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote:
also, can you please remove debugging output from 9fans?
What do you mean? Could you paste the raw text data for one of my
emails? PGP for Mac Mail hides everything.
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On Feb 3, 2009, at 5:11 AM, Eris Discordia wrote:
I don't know of any open source implementations of Flash Player. The
software on each platform and for each browser seems to be (c) Adobe
and closed source. Does an open source implementation,
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On Jan 31, 2009, at 5:33 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
if someone's itching for a project, the installer could use
a little touch up.
The program to detect where to install from, /sys/lib/dist/pc/inst/
mountdist, is good. The only problem seems to
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On Jan 29, 2009, at 3:04 PM, Randall Bohn wrote:
groff -man slig.8 wasn't readable.
How? I get PostScript output when running a similar thing. (Strange
how groff automatically calls grops, but hey, that's GNU for you.)
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Been getting a lot of it recently. Since I'm on MobileMe, and upas
doesn't have the folder indexing stuff that I'm looking for, I can't
use it. Is there an alternative? If so, I'll see if your command set
will work.
On Jan 25, 2009, at 8:38 PM, j...@csplan9.rit.edu wrote:
Criminals
This code is interesting. I do see one problem: commands that take up
more than one line won't be stored in the history properly, so each
line will get its own entry. But this is a nice use of pipes!
On Jan 23, 2009, at 5:03 AM, pavel.klinkov...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi all,
In Plan9 I missed
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On Jan 22, 2009, at 5:01 PM, Russ Cox wrote:
- is a unary operator.
okay, what does it do? (unless you meant - in C++)
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On Jan 22, 2009, at 6:01 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
i assumed that ron was talking about c.
Yeah, that's what I thought. Sorry, Russ.
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Last time I checked, isn't _brk() still used by libc?
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A portion of the Mac OS X cat manual page. This was back in July. I
don't remember if this was while I had OS X 10.4 or 10.5. Either way,
it's the same now (10.5.6).
CAT(1)BSD General Commands
Manual
On Dec 15, 2008, at 10:45 AM, Rodolfo kix García wrote:
Hi!
I am working in an c++ application on linux and I would like to use a
filesystem to access to the application data.
Somebody knows any 9P implementation of 9P in C++?
Thanks,
Saludos, kix.
--
Rodolfo García AKA kix
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On Dec 15, 2008, at 6:25 PM, Rodolfo kix Garcia wrote:
gcc -L /usr/local/plan9/lib -L. -ltry -lthread demo1.C -o demo1 ##
OK!
I think linking lthread will give you POSIX threads and that -L
appends to the list, rather than going before, so
On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:16 PM, sqweek wrote:
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Pietro Gagliardi pietr...@mac.com
wrote:
On Dec 15, 2008, at 6:25 PM, Rodolfo kix Garcia wrote:
gcc -L /usr/local/plan9/lib -L. -ltry -lthread demo1.C -o demo1
## OK!
I think linking lthread will give you POSIX
On Dec 9, 2008, at 6:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
how do I publish complete bibliographies w/ refer | troff?
(on loonix I use this:
/usr/bin/refer -B bib | nroff -mbib
but with refer and tmac.bib from heirloom-doctools: the -B option is
essential
(beat me for still using loonix))
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This is probably because the Heirloom tools are different from the
Plan 9 tools. I think you should try compiling the Heirloom tools
using ape/psh and see what happens.
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New Century Schoolbook is a font included in Plan 9. The troff fonts
are NR, NI, NB, NX. -ms has a .FP option century.
% cat file
\f(NRHello ― world!
% troff file | page
converting from troff to postscript...
reading through postscript...
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http://lame.sourceforge.net/download.php
LAME compiles on ... Plan 9, ...
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In regard to the GUI itself, it's an interesting concept. THe only
thing uglier is if it was all text.
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Take a look at this:
http://www.blazebyte.org/gnextop/
It runs a complete Linux system in a web browser, so users of the
PlayStation Portable can finally write software for it without fear of
being bricked by Sony's anti-piracy measures.
Can
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The to each his own philosophy of software development (tools, etc.)
is over.
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with them? Why do they
have stuff like email, game playing (which I do like -- a lot), IM,
etc.? (I don't write text messages.)
On Nov 18, 2008, at 6:26 PM, Pietro Gagliardi wrote:
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The to each his own philosophy of software development (tools
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all hail erik.
On Nov 18, 2008, at 6:27 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
The to each his own philosophy of software development (tools,
etc.)
is over.
i haven't gotten that memo. about 50% of the software i use
every day is not what anyone else in
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Last time I checked alef,tgz didn't include the x86 port; shame, I
wanted to try it too.
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On Nov 14, 2008, at 4:26 PM, Russ Cox wrote:
hget is different from most other programs of its kind.
depends what you mean by its kind.
command line download tool; I'm comparing it to programs like wget,
curl, etc.
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On Nov 14, 2008, at 6:21 PM, Dave Eckhardt wrote:
commentary
This is because those programs use stdout for status indication, much
like hget -v. Think of wget, which is forced to use a terminal in
order to make a progress bar.
The idea is
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On Nov 14, 2008, at 6:46 PM, Uriel wrote:
I wonder why was stderr invented...
uriel
Oh yes, that's also something I can explain. Some programmers use the
definitions literally: stderr is not used for a progress bar, make
stdprog.
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In a short few hours I have learned to appreciate Plan 9 more.
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All the programs that accept ! as a command do this:
% ed file
!echo hello
hello
!
It tells the user that execution has finished.
On Nov 11, 2008, at 11:07 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
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On Nov 11, 2008, at 10:40 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
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On Nov 11, 2008, at 10:40 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
does anyone remember why !, | and || echo follow their
output with a !\n? would anyone miss this behavior?
- erik
Could you give an example?
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On Nov 10, 2008, at 4:48 PM, Wes Kussmaul wrote:
There are things about Whi$tler that would pose problems for some.
Is it possible to rent a room in the Longhorn? And if there are too
many people, some of us could go on Blackcomb.
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Here's a screenshot of Windows 7:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Windows7Desktop.png
I think this looks familiar.
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On Nov 9, 2008, at 3:14 PM, Eris Discordia wrote:
What is X good for except eye candy and graphical web browsers ;-?
Masochistic programming and highly-paid tech support teams.
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On Nov 7, 2008, at 11:09 AM, Dan Cross wrote:
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 3:03 AM, Bruce Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'd like to see a you tube video of the troff.
Dude, don't tempt me. When (if?) I (ever?) get off of active duty, I
might do a youtube video on troff. I know that's not quite
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Hello. Why do we have something like
vlong Boffset(Biobufhdr *r);
instead of
vlong Boffset(Biobuf *r);
and
long Bgetrune(Biobuf *r);
instead of
Rune Bgetrune(Biobuf *r);
Thanks.
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On Nov 5, 2008, at 11:21 PM, Russ Cox wrote:
At one point, it was possible to declare your own buffered
i/o by just embedding a Biobufhdr and filling it in correctly.
Is that still possible/useful?
Thanks for the rest of the info.
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On Nov 5, 2008, at 8:53 PM, ron minnich wrote:
Just booted Plan 9 on a 1024+16 node BG/P this week. .
Cool, congrats. Now to see Plan 9 run on HAL :-P
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On Nov 4, 2008, at 8:04 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi, I just recently fell in love with plan9, it's a great operating
system, However there are somethings I do not know how to do.
1. How can I get internet through a ethernet cord?(I am not sure
which ethernet card I have , but the computer
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/n/sources/contrib/pietro/programming.pdf
This only covers files, processes, and little else. I began a part on
segments, but I don't know if it will stay. I haven't touched it since
August, but I plan to start it again perhaps in a few days.
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Sorry, it also covers Runes.
On Nov 4, 2008, at 6:54 PM, Pietro Gagliardi wrote:
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This only covers files, processes, and little else. I began a part
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On Nov 3, 2008, at 5:14 AM, Siddharth Prakash Singh wrote:
hi all,
I want to port some program or driver to plan9 which has not been
ported yet and is of high priority.
Please suggest me !
Thanks
the program is...?
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On Nov 2, 2008, at 1:51 PM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
[blank message]
The strangest part? It's been down since this morning (I'm on Murray
Hill time here on Long Island); longer than usual.
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On Nov 2, 2008, at 4:58 PM, michael block wrote:
retool them for standard time
isn't that done automatically?
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On Oct 26, 2008, at 8:39 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After a long day writing a paper for my psych class, it came time for
me to make the reference page, using the APA format (see
http://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/560/06/). I was looking
at
an online troff manual, which said that
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In pseudocode:
when mouse has not been moved for at least 1 second
find cursor position
if cursor has moved
stop
find window where cursor is
if cursor
I'm blind in only one eye and have low vision in the other, so I run
Plan 9 in a virtual machine with an enlarged screen using Mac OS X's
Universal Access.
The concept of a Text-to-Speech program for Plan 9 has been floating
in my head for some time. How can it be made to use some of Plan
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On Oct 15, 2008, at 8:10 AM, Charles Forsyth wrote:
(i think venti is optional but i might be wrong.)
Yes, it's optional.
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On Oct 13, 2008, at 5:35 PM, Rudolf Sykora wrote:
Hello
few questions:
1) Having a window with rc and pressing CTRL+d usually closes the
window. However, from time to time it does not. Instead, I can see
EOT (one character; diagonally)
How?
On Oct 12, 2008, at 6:00 AM, hiro wrote:
I didn't get your mail, can't read it
On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 5:40 AM, Pietro Gagliardi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
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Sorry for the noise; I'm just testing to see if the PGP for Apple's
Mail
On Oct 8, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Rudolf Sykora wrote:
Hello,
I'd expect
window -hide rc -c 'label a_name; tail -f some_file'
would create a new hidden window (and so it does), run the tail
command (and so it does) and set the name for the hidden window to
a_name.
The last thing seems to not
On Oct 8, 2008, at 2:52 PM, Rudolf Sykora wrote:
So, if I continuously want to add and remove functions within one
shell (running hypothetically forever), do I have to 'manually'
delete those empty left-behind files? --- that is, not only use
fn name_that_I _don't_need
but also
rm
On Sep 12, 2008, at 8:28 AM, Eris Discordia wrote:
completely 'unencumbered' by POSIX.
s/completely/almost /
Pietro
I'd like to see Plan 9 being run on a portable device, and up until
now I thought the only ways were to get an iPAQ (but are newer models
compatible?) or to port 9vx to the iPhone (but does Apple's license
allow that?). Can we use this board to make an alternative - the new
bitsy? This
As will I. This thread has become pointless. I'm done attacking this
guy. If you need me, I'll be making good programs in Plan 9 or
watching stuff in iTunes.
On Aug 20, 2008, at 4:16 AM, Steve Simon wrote:
Sorry for feeding the troll, I will shut up.
-Steve
On Aug 19, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Wendell xe wrote:
01. Toggle on/off line wrapping
02. Toggle on/off EOL character display
03. Display line numbers
04. Display ruler
05. Rectangluar block selection
06. Search and replace with confirmation at each item
07. Automatic insertion of spaces for tabs
08.
On Aug 19, 2008, at 7:51 PM, Eris Discordia wrote:
Plan 9 obeys the UNIX way: tools that make jobs simpler.
A UNIX better than UNIX? I thought that was just the thing 9people
claimed to be past. Didn't I hear someone saying, Plan 9 is not
UNIX? Ahem... GNU's Not UNIX, too, nah?
No,
Geoff! Why not let Eris read your paper on Why Plan 9 Matters?
Just a few other bits of relevance to the original topic:
On Aug 19, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Wendell xe wrote:
07. Automatic insertion of spaces for tabs
style(6) says not to convert tabs to spaces.
11. Bookmarks
If you know what text the bookmark will point to, make a comment on
the line
On Aug 8, 2008, at 4:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Besides the paper, manual, and language tutorial, is there anything
else I should read to help me learn how to use sam? Would any
background reading on Plan 9, ed, or anything else be helpful? Thanks.
You're pretty much set with those
Hello. Is there an alternative to the macros in this header? My
program uses some of them (DBL_MIN, DBL_MAX, DBL_EPSILON), and
including ape/float.h yields name clashes. Thanks.
On Jul 28, 2008, at 1:11 PM, andrey mirtchovski wrote:
salad fork. Locks, mutexes, the synchronized keyword; all of these
things can strike fear into the heart of a green developer. Most
That's what you get for using Java.
On Jul 28, 2008, at 1:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm unable to
bblochi - you failed to solve his problem. Instead you spat out an
insane commentary on how to compile C programs, and the following both
show his problem and show he figured out how to do it:
On Jul 23, 2008, at 5:02 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
did not result in it being found (nor 8c
On Jul 24, 2008, at 10:23 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks! You should forward your friendly comments to Michael A.
Covington. May be he will correct his Newbie`s guide?
I thought those were YOUR words, not his.
All right, let's stop this now. I had just waken up and was a bit
tired when I wrote that. But I had a reason: you did not answer the
question of why the system didn't have an 8c.
sorry.
For viewing with page, the simplest way is to add a line of the form
%%BoundingBox: 0 0 w h
where the width and height are in pixels (multiply by 72) before the
second line of the PostScript output (dpost) and give page the -b
option.
On Jul 23, 2008, at 8:43 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Jul 17, 2008, at 8:28 PM, erik quanstrom wrote:
i suppose you could also type
ctl+m
9fat:
cp /sys/lib/kbmap/uk /n/9fat
try again with kbmap=uk and reboot.
On Jul 16, 2008, at 4:46 PM, Robert Hibberdine wrote:
Thanks for reply.
putting kbmap=uk into plan9.ini
gives a message
boot: can't open kbd map: 'uk' file does not exist.
So I triedkbmap=/sys/lib//kbmap/uk
The ISO I got that was supposed to work natively on an iMac had:
- keyboard error messages (but I think it worked)
- no working mouse
- inverse video
But good luck on a MacBook!
On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I now have a more-or-less unused MacBook. I'm
considering
Intel - there is no prebuilt PPC binary. That ELCR point is what made
me get QEMU in the first place. You can find the ISO somewhere in /n/
sources/contrib. du and you can't miss it; it was made by someone else
on the list.
On Jul 16, 2008, at 10:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This was
1) Did you update them for the 4th edition kernel, or are they still
3rd edition?
2) Does it include a source code listing?
3) Is it digital or hard print?
4) Is it available in America for USD?
Otherwise, cool!
On Jul 11, 2008, at 3:57 AM, Francisco J Ballesteros wrote:
They are edited by
Just a bit of humor:
COMPUTER
ME
% cd troff
% file *
advp9prog:directory yes (old attempt at plan 9 programmer's
guide)
algoawk:directory
C89 does have such a requirement, in two places:
Section 5.1.2.3:
...
- The input and output dynamics of interactive devices shall take
place as specified in 7.9.3. ... or line-buffered input appear as soon
as possible, to ensure that prompting messages actually appear prior
to a program
See patch(1) for instructions on contributing a patch.
man -t patch | page
On Jul 6, 2008, at 12:46 PM, Antonin Vecera wrote:
Hello all,
I don't know how to submit a patch, so I try to do it this way...
I have installed Plan 9 in WMware Player and every time when I start
the
On Jul 6, 2008, at 1:03 PM, Antonin Vecera wrote:
Hello all,
can somebody help me with replica/pull ...
I made some changes to /rc/bin/termrc . After that I decided to move
my changes to /rc/bin/termrc.local and restore termrc . I did:
replica/pull -v -s rc/bin/termrc
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