Hi Mateusz,
as far as I remember, it was originally called "xerox". But that is
trademarked. No idea where the word "snarf" comes from.
Cheers,
Robby
On 12 Sep 2016 12:19, "Mateusz Piotrowski" wrote:
Hello,
I've discovered Plan 9 recently and became curious about some
design
Typo of the name Dijkstra :-(
http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/EWD/transcriptions/EWD08xx/EWD898.html
On Jun 9, 2015 11:12 AM, lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote:
-- Dijstraka, EWD898, 1984
Huh?!
Lucio
In acme, button-3 can cancel a button-2 execute. Say you button-2-sweep a
command, but then decide, err, no, don't want to do that, you chord-click
button-3 to cancel the execution. Not sure about other ways of doing this.
Robby
On 21 July 2014 14:08, dante subscripti...@posteo.eu wrote:
Whenever they are available, I use symlinks for shortening paths for
Acme. This is so far the only good use I've found for them ;-)
Robby
On Jun 11, 2014 8:54 PM, Bakul Shah ba...@bitblocks.com wrote:
If you are editing multiple file within the same directory
with a very long path, the long
Someone once made a little filesystem that would substitute spaces in
filenames with a different character. When placed between the normal fs and
Acme, this would make things work quite nicely.
If I remember correctly, Acme-SAC (built on top of Inferno) does that by
default.
No idea where you
On Plan 9 use bind to create yourself a nice hierarchy. Like 'bind -a
/Users/jimr /me' or similar.
Not sure how easy that is under *nix with p9p, haven't tried that yet. And
your /Users makes me think you're on Mac.
Robby
On Tue, Aug 27, 2013 at 2:04 PM, James A. Robinson
I've been using one of these:
Lenovo 3 button scrollpoint USB mouse
http://shop.lenovo.com/us/itemdetails/31P7405/460/0E80436C80A748E6AA76791FC42C9CA3
It has been very reliable and comfortable to use.
Robby
On Feb 25, 2013 7:19 PM, Ruslan Khusnullin ruslan.khusnul...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon,
The only C++ book that I ever found to be worth it, is Ruminations on C++
by Andrew Koenig.
Robby
On Nov 19, 2012 10:01 AM, Steve Simon st...@quintile.net wrote:
I need to learn c++ for work - people have strong opinions on
languages I know, and not everyone likes c++ but its a requirment for
A well working browser is an OS these days. A bit of a dilemma that. ;-)
On Oct 18, 2012 3:25 PM, Pavel Klinkovsky pavel.klinkov...@gmail.com
wrote:
Dne čtvrtek, 18. října 2012 14:23:03 UTC+2 Oleksandr Iakovliev napsal(a):
1) Lack of modern GUI and GUI development kit
...
I just retired my N900 as phone. So reviving it as drawterm would be cool.
But I've no idea when I could find some time to start playing.
Robby
On Jun 21, 2012 6:29 PM, Nicolas Bercher nberc...@yahoo.fr wrote:
Le 18/06/2012 14:21, hiro a écrit :
Just to give someone who searches for some
Wrong Athens, methinks.
On Wed, May 16, 2012 at 2:04 PM, Christoph Lohmann 2...@r-36.net wrote:
Greetings.
On Wed, 16 May 2012 15:04:45 +0200 erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net
wrote:
On Tue May 15 21:44:21 EDT 2012, cinap_len...@gmx.de wrote:
there might be more plan9 users than you
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 1:08 AM, Tristan Plumb 9p...@imu.li wrote:
Anyone working on or have a simple SIP router/proxy for Plan9? As of
today I will no longer waste days of my life dealing with the
abomination that is Asterisk.
I would also love to see a SIP implementation for Plan 9,
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 12:42 AM, Mauricio CA mauricio.antu...@gmail.comwrote:
Hi, all,
Could you give me tips on how to script acme in plan9 from user
space? Sorry for asking this question without at least showing some
attempts of my own, but the fact is that I'm unable to grasp how to
Terribly sorry, my email won't help you much, apart from going Wow, a 4000
link mk file! and Hmm, I wouldn't start from here if you want to go
there. Your email also doesn't explain why you cannot generate a normal
mk file.
If you want to stick with your approach, it almost looks like you may be
Err, Wow, a 4000 line mk file!
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Robert Raschke rtrli...@googlemail.comwrote:
Terribly sorry, my email won't help you much, apart from going Wow, a 4000
link mk file! and Hmm, I wouldn't start from here if you want to go
there. Your email also doesn't explain
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Ciprian Dorin Craciun
ciprian.crac...@gmail.com wrote:
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 17:00, Robert Raschke rtrli...@googlemail.com
wrote:
Your email also doesn't explain why you cannot generate a normal
mk file.
I'm afraid I don't understand the question
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Mark Carter alt.mcar...@gmail.com wrote:
I was reading the suckless.org website the other day, and they seemed
quite keen on Plan 9. I am running Linux. Is there a useful summary
document that explains where plan9port fits in with Glendix, and why
anyone
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 12:07 PM, Robert Raschke rtrli...@googlemail.comwrote:
On Mon, Oct 11, 2010 at 10:05 AM, Mark Carter alt.mcar...@gmail.comwrote:
I was reading the suckless.org website the other day, and they seemed
quite keen on Plan 9. I am running Linux. Is there a useful summary
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:20 PM, bau...@gmail.com wrote:
how to lock (protect by password) the cpu console? In default
install
afterboot the console is logged by user bootes. Is there a way to avoid
this?
Usually, you'll find people put it in a cupboard or room that you can
On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 4:41 AM, 6o205z...@sneakemail.com wrote:
How do you folks using acme-sac on Windows deal with the line-ending
issue? I've been using P9P acme on linux (at work) since Russ announced
it, but I consider the line-ending issue a show-stopper on Windows.
While the cr
On Tue, May 4, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Ethan Grammatikidis eeke...@fastmail.fmwrote:
On 3 May 2010, at 19:34, Jorden M wrote:
I've yet to find out why this happens so much, but I think I can
narrow it to a combination of ignorance, laziness, and perhaps that
all-too-frequent assumption `oh, I can
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 2:35 AM, tammy turner tam...@windstream.net wrote:
Hi I recently downloaded plan 9 (last thursday) and when I attempted
install I had 3 sets of windows side by side and could not read the set up
instructions (questions) attempting to scroll left or right would not
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 5:15 PM, maht maht-9f...@maht0x0r.net wrote:
On 25/03/2010 17:11, Corey Thomasson wrote:
Not really related, but I got a good laugh from this.
As soon as I opened this email in gmail, the targeted ad changed to
Editing xml is difficult.
well that is true, the
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.comwrote:
Not sure how the concept of a line delimited by newlines relates to
moving the cursor up one physical line on the screen.
Working out where to move the cursor to
Still I dare claim that moving a cursor up one
On Fri, Jan 22, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello,
I've been wondering.
The plan9 'replacement' for the (linux/unix-like) find command, according
to the faq, is, in a way,
grep foo `{du -a . | awk '{print $2}'}
Now I want to find all files containing foo.
On Thu, Jan 14, 2010 at 2:02 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
naturally, bitmaps are hard to read.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:ASCII_art_conversion_tool
(Something along those lines at least.)
Robby
Thank you Erik.
On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 7:09 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com wrote:
cpu% auth/secstore -g factotum
secstore password:
auth/secstore: error: account rtr expired at Sat Jan 2 03:59:59 GMT 2010
secstore password:
see secstore(8). auth/secuser $user is what you
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 9:49 AM, chutsu chu...@gmail.com wrote:
So.. been looking at plan 9, am confused what plan 9 is used for? I
mean I know its a hobbyst sort of OS, but what can you do with it
though?
Can you browse the internet?
Watch videos?
Thanks
Chris
I use it to manage my home
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Robert Raschke rtrli...@googlemail.comwrote:
I use it to manage my home network (/sys/lib/local is s much easier
than any other network
Err, sorry, meant /lib/ndb/local (not sure how that turned itself into
something else).
Robby
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Andreas Zell z...@imageaccess.de wrote:
On 28 Okt., 10:42, rtrli...@googlemail.com (Robert Raschke) wrote:
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:21 PM, roger peppe rogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
for instance when there are a few thousand source files
and one wants to link
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 9:21 PM, roger peppe rogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
2009/10/27 erik quanstrom quans...@coraid.com:
On Tue Oct 27 12:52:52 EDT 2009, rogpe...@gmail.com wrote:
the environment variable size limit is set to 16300 bytes which
seems rather small; for instance it can break
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 3:02 PM, Greg Comeau com...@panix.com wrote:
Ok, now I'll get provocative:
Then why do so many people have a problem understanding C?
Please don't seriously say they don't. In fact, these same
arguments are used against C by those who don't care for C.
Go figure? I
On Thu, Sep 3, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Anthony Sorace ano...@gmail.com wrote:
i've not used matt's sql module itself (i should check it out) so i
can't comment on his implementation, but... SQL is really ugly. it's
not hard to construct something that provides the same functionality
in a much more
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:38 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
On Wed Sep 2 10:33:07 EDT 2009, rminn...@gmail.com wrote:
Q: Will C continue to be important into the future?
(Dave Kirk, Nvidia)A: No, I think C will die like Fortran has
isn't this the same company that claims
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 5:50 PM, Bakul Shah
bakul+pl...@bitblocks.combakul%2bpl...@bitblocks.com
wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 11:33:13 CDT Eric Van Hensbergen eri...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Bakul
Shahbakul+pl...@bitblocks.combakul%2bpl...@bitblocks.com
wrote:
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Roman V. Shaposhnik r...@sun.com wrote:
On Fri, 2009-08-14 at 09:27 +0100, Robert Raschke wrote:
Last time I tried, the standard Lua compiled out of the box under the
APE.
That is good to know. Still, I'd rather see it run without APE.
Great little
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 3:58 AM, Roman V. Shaposhnik r...@sun.com wrote:
On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 11:55 -0600, Daniel Lyons wrote:
I'd love it if Acme or Plan 9 had good support for some kind of Lisp
variant.
Speaking of which (or may be not ;-)) is there anybody using Lua
on Plan9?
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:14 AM, Lyndon Nerenberg lyn...@orthanc.ca wrote:
This is what we do at Sandia. We have one machine which serves
cpu/auth/file, but the actual Venti disks are in a Coraid connected
via GigE. The fossil disk is in the server, but if it dies we can just
build a new one.
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 1:07 PM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.netwrote:
The venti archive starts at 2AM, and my cron job is at 4AM. So far, I've
not
yet had an archive take longer than 2 hours. But that's partly due to
triggering one explicitly after a pull that's just replaced all my
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 10:14 AM, Aaron W. Hsu arcf...@sacrideo.us wrote:
So, I was browsing around the other day looking at Acme resources, and I
discovered an old post from 1995 wherein someone advocated the use of
proportional fonts for programming in Acme.
I've been programming using
On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 8:52 AM, Corey co...@bitworthy.net wrote:
I imagine this is probably a subject full of landmines, so I don't want to
start a war! I won't press the issue, just want to respond to this, and
then I'll just leave the status quo well enough alone.
I respect those
On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Eris Discordia
eris.discor...@gmail.com wrote:
Very nice of you to go to lengths for describing Inferno to a non-techie.
Thank you. Just got the Fourth Edition ISO and will try it. Maybe even learn
some Limbo in long term.
Also note there's a new book out that
On 4/17/09, Balwinder S Dheeman bdhee...@gmail.com wrote:
Please set aside rare cases and let us know who except for the students,
teachers and, or researchers uses Plan9 and, or Inferno in the offices,
homes and, or cafes and for what?
At the risk (or maybe honour :-) of being branded as a
On 4/10/09, Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I've been thinking about 'well documented programs' and come across
the 'noweb' program.
Do you have any experience with literal programming and, particularly,
noweb?
(I noticed at least rsc seems to have played with it back in
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 12:06 AM, Bakul Shah bakul+pl...@bitblocks.com wrote:
Unfortunately we don't have exact analogs in s/w. We can
only simplicate; we can't add lightness!
In manufacturing, I'd suppose lighter materials are harder to make and
use, kind of like using low level languages for
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 7:00 PM, maht mattmob...@proweb.co.uk wrote:
SeaForth is dead already
http://colorforth.com/vTPL.htm
http://colorforth.com/S40.htm
These docs aren't dated. And I remember a lot of discussion about 1 -
2 years ago about the patent issues surrounding Chuck Moore's
On Tue, Apr 7, 2009 at 3:24 PM, maht mattmob...@proweb.co.uk wrote:
These docs aren't dated.
they appeared in the last week or so, before that was a page saying TPL
pulled funding and sacked Moore
Catching up with my online reading and the Forth group is indeed full
of this since the
On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 2:19 PM, hugo rivera uai...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello,
I am a little confused about setting up venti (on linux).
I followed the instructions found on the wiki, and venti is up. But
now I am lost; as far as I understood (from the man pages) I have to
run vac every time I
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Rudolf Sykora rudolf.syk...@gmail.com wrote:
It really seems that acme-sac does save in the described way (at least
it saves). That makes me wonder. Do plan9 acme, p9p acme and acme-sac
have more similar differences? Are the programs separate in their
It's got a whole chapter on alef, and the UI is still in B/W.
Definitly for an older edition of Plan 9.
'Tis a shame there's absolutley no attribution to be found. I wonder
who wrote the book? Seems to be quite readable.
Robby
On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 2:26 PM, hugo rivera uai...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi guys,
I realized that acme gets confused when handling files with spaces in
their names, is there an easy way to handle this?
I mean, for example, when I paint a file name with an space on it,
using the left click, it
Hi,
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 9:37 PM, fge...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Dec 18, 2008 at 10:21 PM, Anthony Sorace ano...@gmail.com wrote:
i like nokia's line, and would love to see a port of Plan 9 (or
Inferno) to the 770 or N800 (there's an even newer one, but i forget
the model off hand and
I very much enjoy Samuel R. Delany
(http://www2.pcc.com/staff/jay/delany/); especially Babel-17, Nova,
Stars in My Pocket Like Grains of Sand and Dhalgren. The latter one is
a good one for the holiday, as it's a tad longer. His short stories
are well worth seeking out as well. His stories are
With Gmail you also have to be aware of the fact that Google does not
actually implement IMAP to the standard. There are quite a few odd
behaviours. A notable one has to do with deletion of emails, but I
can't find the exact reference just now. (I can try digging if you're
really intereested.)
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 2:14 PM, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
by the way, i don't know of any way that gmail imap is not standard.
perhaps this is in some esoteric corners of the protocol i'm not
familar with. for the basic stuff, i haven't seen any issues at all.
The two immediate
On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 4:11 AM, Andrew Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On the one hand, Too many cooks spoil the broth. On the other hand,
Many hands make light work.
Cooks don't work, they give orders.
hget -o $home/planb4e.tgz http://lsub.org/ls/export/planb4e.tgz
The man pages with Plan 9 are really good. Well worth a read.
Robby
On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 6:26 AM, Enrico Weigelt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* sqweek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Everyone has write access to the plan 9 wiki.
hmm, perhaps I didn't look hard enough, but I didn't see anything
like an edit button etc ... ;-o
Put in Acme Wiki.
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 10:33 AM, Eris Discordia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Man's got to know his limitations.
Yes, _man_ has got to. That doesn't apply to deities :-P
Why do gods that walk the earth invariably act like spoilt brats? Ah,
hang on ...
On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 9:37 AM, Nolan Hamilton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It dosent work unfortunatley its probally something I did, can you
really break each step down for me?
Sorry!
What doesn't work? You can't start upas/fs? Writing to /mail/fs/ctl
doesn't work? Or Acme Mail doesn't work?
On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 4:39 PM, Nolan Hamilton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can somebody give me instructions on
1. How can I can configure mail? ( and do not just redirect me to the
wiki page on it.)
:-)
Do you mean reading mail or setting up a mail server? For the former,
the easiest is to use
On Mon, Nov 3, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Siddharth Prakash Singh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I want to port some program or driver to plan9 which has not been
ported yet and is of high priority.
Please suggest me !
I think support for more wireless network cards was mentioned in the past.
Or perhaps
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Michael Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. Open a win in acme.
2. Scroll down as far as possible.
3. Notice that there is no $prompt visible at left.
4. echo annoying
5. Now scroll back up and it turns out you entered the echo command at
a prompt after all!
On Fri, Oct 3, 2008 at 1:19 PM, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1. Open a win in acme.
2. Scroll down as far as possible.
3. Notice that there is no $prompt visible at left.
4. echo annoying
5. Now scroll back up and it turns out you entered the echo command at
a prompt after
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 2:54 PM, Yaroslav [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A question: how to feed a private (SSH host) key(s) to eve's factotum
during the boot?
The first what comes up to my mind is to save the key somewhere on
fileserver, then to feed it to factotum from cpurc.
Feel there should be
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 11:17 AM, Eris Discordia
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It will eventually install but won't get past a specific step after the
installed system is booted. I asked about the problem on 9fans. No
solutions... yet.
Here's the thread: http://9fans.net/archive/2008/01/547
With
On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 2:16 PM, erik quanstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The run from cd booted up just fine in MS Virtual Server 2005. I
never got round to installing it fully though. If I remember
correctly, I started an install once, but had to turn off disk dma and
then the formatting of a
On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:05 AM, prem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
% window -f $font
(this opens a window and closes it), however
% window
(this opens a window)
As far as I know, window doesn't take a -f option. So it's probably
trying to run the command '-f /lib/font/...' in the new window,
One of the central tenets of Plan 9 is that everything is a file. So
all file based activities are really, really easy.
Most OO programming appears to follow a more DB oriented style (at
least those with horrendous packaging/module mechanisms). That files
are used to store your programs appears
Going by your list, I would conclude your code is something in the
vein of Java plus web stuff, maybe even J2EE, or maybe the scourge of
the editing world, Python.
If that's the case and you have to deal with other people's code, Acme
is probably not going to help you very much. In fact Acme will
I think useful parallel programming paradigms can very probably be
abstracted from really big systems like a national health system or an
army. How parallelism is employed in those systems, would be a good
starting point for a deeper investigation.
Especially a military system must have some very
Hi,
I recently got myself a lovely Nokia N810 internet tablet. That runs
Debian ARM and I thought I'd have a stab at compiling P9P for it.
Unfortunately, the makecontext/swapcontext calls are not supported on
that platform by Debian.
I noticed that libthread/Linux.c has implementations of those
On 7/8/08, Michael Teichgräber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The code in Linux.c that implements makecontext() for ARM expects this
struct to contain a gregs array. I'm guessing that gregs is the same
as the enumerated arm_* ones above. So, would I be correct in assuming
that gregs[13] is
Not sure when Mr. Adams wrote this, but I think it was mid-90's.
First we thought the PC was a calculator. Then we found out how to turn
numbers into letters with ASCII -- and we thought it was a typewriter.
Then we discovered graphics, and we thought it was a television. With
the World
I don't think 9load can just boot off a usb yet.
Can the eee bios make the usb look like a disk? What were those
options in plan9.ini for letting the bios do the disk access?
Robby
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