[9fans] IWP9 2024 - Day 2 Live Stream

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[9fans] Re: IWP9 2024 Live Stream

Also, if you subscribe to the channel, you are allowed to participate and ask questions via the live chat. On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 10:50 AM Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > FYI, in case you missed it, IWP9 is being broadcast on the Plan 9 > Foundation YouTube channel. > > https://

[9fans] IWP9 2024 Live Stream

FYI, in case you missed it, IWP9 is being broadcast on the Plan 9 Foundation YouTube channel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVFovcvThX8 -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Tfc430a73002fc1c7-M6db0d3920b46cad5a0d4ca3a

Re: [9fans] IWP9 10th Edition

Hi everyone, Paper submission deadline is coming up fast. We understand that some may be hesitant to submit papers or WIPs for various reasons. If you have any questions or concerns that are holding you back, please contact us. We are also planning to provide a help session (Google Meet) to

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 Foundation is a 501(c)(3)

Both of the domains belong to the Plan 9 Foundation; p9f.org is mainly focused on sources and plan9foundation.org is for the public information about the organization and governance. Selecting "Activities" from the top menu at plan9foundation.org will show what P9F has done so far

Re: [9fans] problem with factotum

Do you have the right factotum in the namespace you're working on? Listing /srv should give a clue. On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 2:03 PM Iban Nieto wrote: > > Hello! > > I'm trying to serve https (443) and gemini (1965) under 9front. > > I've already a working rc-httpd (80) setup and now I would like

Re: [9fans] How can I donate Plan9？

Plan 9 Foundation is an Oregon nonprofit organization and is awaiting a status approval as a 501(c)(3) Charitable Organization. Your donations will NOT be tax deductible, but very much appreciated. Please contact the Treasurer directly or bo...@p9f.org Thanks, On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 7:10 AM

Re: [9fans] /dev/realtime doesn't exist?

I wrote an example 20 years ago, but couldn't get it to work. I found a copy in this thread: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/T6fea0dd928cee45d-M9987c73da1c5b3190e83c561/9fans-trace-c On Tue, Aug 29, 2023, 11:29 AM Charles Forsyth wrote: > There's another paper from an iwp9

Re: [9fans] Contrib mirror?

9p.io Replace the sources entry in 9fs to point to 9p.io instead. On Fri, Aug 25, 2023, 8:25 PM Don Bailey wrote: > Hi Fans, > > Is there a live mirror of the Contrib sources? There are a few packages I > need and I can't figure out who hosts them, currently. Any thoughts are > appreciated. >

[9fans] Accessing auth/fs via Tailscale

I've been meaning to mention this in case others might be interested. Tailscale is great at providing an efficient, secure and (mostly) decentralized virtual mesh network. Although there isn't a port of their agent for Plan 9, there is a way to use tailscale to access Plan 9 auth/fs/cpu behind a

Re: [9fans] Building 9vx on a modern Linux?

i did this a couple of days ago on Ubuntu 22.04; i had to install these to successfully build/link: apt install build-essential gcc-multilib libx11-dev libx11-dev:i386 g++-multilib On Thu, Jun 29, 2023, 9:48 PM Don Bailey wrote: > Hi Pals, > > I'm trying to build 9vx using the current vx32

Re: [9fans] How do I build from source on linux?

In case you're looking for this: take a look at djc's disk script that (in Plan 9) generates a Plan 9 image that can run on GCE: http://9legacy.org/9legacy/doc/gce/disk you might be able to find some useful information to build your own custom QEMU image. On Thu, Jun 15, 2023 at 8:53 AM wrote:

Re: [9fans] Schedule

Waterloo ON, Canada standard time (WOCST) On Thu, Apr 20, 2023, 5:43 PM Don A. Bailey wrote: > What time zone? :-) > > D > > > On Apr 20, 2023, at 5:39 PM, o...@eigenstate.org wrote: > > > > Apologies for the late mailing. Here's the schedule for iwp9: > > > > Fri 21 Apr > > -- > > > >

Re: [9fans] [PATCH] fossil: fix a deadlock in the caching logic

it definitely was not me. My bet would be on rsc, geoff, richard, forsyth, quanstrom or djc. On Tue, Apr 4, 2023 at 11:05 AM Steve Simon wrote: > > > was this hard to reproduce? > > i have not seen fossil deadlocking and have used it since i installed my > first home server in 2004. > > there

[9fans] acme font loading: requesting feedback

I ran into a situation that makes me think the default order of acme font loading is wrong. I ran into it on plan9port when trying to change default fonts to Go fonts with an existing acme.dump but I think it's applicable to all Plan 9 forks. I think when explicit -F -f are given, they should

Re: [9fans] iwp9 shirts: apr 5 deadline

for new registrations, please use iwp9reg at iwp9.org more info here: http://iwp9.org/ On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 10:40 AM wrote: > > Hi, > > We're going to get the shirts for iwp9 printed soon. > > If you didn't register yet, you'll need to register > before Apr 5 in order to get a shirt.

Re: [9fans] Wifi Firmware "does not exist", but it does.

Regarding questions #2, see secstore(1) http://p9f.org/magic/man2html/1/secstore On Wed, Mar 22, 2023, 3:04 AM Yury Chumak wrote: > Thank you for last response.. > ..Finally issue was resolved through a comprehensive mutual > configuration of various local network services =)) Main thing that

Re: [9fans] cpu temp in drawterm

Cool! Thanks. FYI, the patch is in http://9legacy.org/patch.html, but not on sources (not applied to pc/devarch.c and not in the patch directory) On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 2:06 PM David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com> wrote: > > 9legacy supports temperature reporting on x86, using /dev/cputemp. >

Re: [9fans] cpu temp in drawterm

I don't believe 9legacy '#c/sysstat' (/sys/src/9/port/devcons.c) supports temperature reporting. If both drawterm's '#c/sysstat' and Plan 9's '#c/sysstat' implement it, they would need to agree on the format, because when using drawterm (as opposed to a real Plan 9 term), the commands run on the

Re: [9fans] Update on RISC-V port

Check sources (9p.io) for recent updates. I don't know if Geoff has that board. % pwd /n/sources/contrib/geoff/riscv % ls -l --rwxrwxr-x M 5272 geoff geoff 506028 Oct 2 23:57 8.temu --rwxrwxr-x M 5272 geoff geoff 1241308 Jan 4 21:47 9tecpu.bin --rw-rw-r-- M 5272 geoff geoff 397 Jan 11

Re: [9fans] plan 9 and lisp

It's hard to give a useful answer without knowing how much theory and practice someone has. As you already know, reading good code and emulating the structure and style of good programs is a good practice. I find that implementing simple versions of tools/protocols/languages/etc. is very good

Re: [9fans] plan 9 and lisp

Regarding Ivy, rsc has some fantastic example code in the form of solutions to the Advent of Code 2021 puzzles: https://www.youtube.com/@rscgolang/videos On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 7:48 AM Bakul Shah wrote: > > On Jan 19, 2023, at 7:57 AM, mkf9 wrote: > > > > Lassi Kortela wrote: > >> Chibi-Scheme

Re: [9fans] kerTeX: LaTeX recipe fix for Plan9

The problem here was due to hget failing. Binding hurl over hget and running it again, latex installed properly. Thanks! On Mon, Oct 31, 2022 at 1:28 AM wrote: > Le Sun, Oct 30, 2022 at 04:41:21PM -0700, Skip Tavakkolian a écrit : > ... > > > > Also, I can't find latex.s

Re: [9fans] kerTeX: LaTeX recipe fix for Plan9

I just did a full install of the stable version in my local evolutionary branch of 9legacy using the get_mk_install.rc script. I had to extend XCPPFLAGS in "kertex_T/lib1/web/Makefile.ker" to include "-D_SUSV2_SOURCE" Also, I can't find latex.sh in the installed packages. Did I miss a step? On

Re: [9fans] Trouble compiling "Hello, world"

in /sys/src On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 3:51 PM Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > generally it's a good idea to rebuild and install changes for all > architectures in your network. > something like: > for (i in (386 arm amd64 riscv mips)) { > objtype=$i mk install > } > > > On

Re: [9fans] Trouble compiling "Hello, world"

generally it's a good idea to rebuild and install changes for all architectures in your network. something like: for (i in (386 arm amd64 riscv mips)) { objtype=$i mk install } On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 2:50 PM Jacob Moody wrote: > On 8/1/22 15:18, Jag Talon wrote: > > Ah thanks for the tip. I

Re: [9fans] hget'ing from a cdn

i use hurl: % hurl https://mirror.ctan.org/tds/packages.zip > xyz.zip https://go.dev/play/p/v6Ludjnzyg_L On Fri, Jul 8, 2022 at 8:55 PM Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > Use a client written in Go? > > On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 12:53 PM wrote: >> >> Hello, >> >>

Re: [9fans] hget'ing from a cdn

Use a client written in Go? On Fri, Jul 8, 2022, 12:53 PM wrote: > Hello, > > Pkg in kerTeX are created by processing and first retrieving files using > hget(1) for http served files. > > The main TeX repository is CTAN. Now, there is an address: > mirrors.ctan.org (http/https), that is in

Re: [9fans] syscall silently kill processes

It's cleaner to use channels with separate io and timer threads that do their syscalls via ioproc; this one doesn't require any changes to libthread: https://gist.github.com/9nut/aaa9b9b6a22d69996b75ccdc6e615c61 On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 8:57 AM wrote: > > В Пн, 20/06/2022 в 05:59 +, adr

Re: [9fans] syscall silently kill processes

Thanks to Douglas Adams, I think '42' might be a more obvious magic number for a clue: % 8c udpflood.c && 8l -o udpflood udpflood.8 && ./udpflood | grep end | wc -l 42 % grep 42 /sys/src/libthread/note.c #define NFN 42 On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 9:11 AM Skip Tavakkolian wrote

Re: [9fans] syscall silently kill processes

it's worth grepping for persistent magic constants: % grep 33 /sys/src/libthread/*.[ch] /sys/src/libthread/note.c:#define NFN 33 On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 9:08 AM Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > interesting catch. it seems to be a tunable limit. > > % grep NFN /sys/src/libthread/note.c &

Re: [9fans] syscall silently kill processes

interesting catch. it seems to be a tunable limit. % grep NFN /sys/src/libthread/note.c #define NFN 33 static int (*onnote[NFN])(void*, char*); static int onnotepid[NFN]; for(i=0; i wrote: > > В Пт, 17/06/2022 в 08:11 -0600, Jacob Moody пишет: > > On 6/17/22 07:46, Thaddeus Woskowiak wrote: > > >

Re: [9fans] 9p server to multiply 9p messages?

Interesting idea! This assumes the downstream servers have identical namespace hierarchy; right? State management could be messy or impossible unless some sort of transaction structure is imposed on the {walk, [open/create, read/write]|[stat/wstat], clunk} sequences, where the server that

Re: [9fans] void*

If void can have a size, why not 4, 8 or 16? P.S. I discovered Gholami Rudi's work a little while ago. I was especially intrigued by Farsi support in neatroff (intro in Farsi produced by Neatroff and Neatpost: https://litcave.rudi.ir/neatfarsi.pdf) Cool stuff. On Sun, May 15, 2022, 9:09 AM adr

Re: [9fans] Perhaps someone can give me an advice ...

. On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 11:53 AM Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > For android, you could try to resurrect previous work by Tim Newsham > based on Charles Forsyth's styx Java implementation: > https://github.com/9nut/styxbrowser/tree/5ed22a9238d7333ff38bc2646aeee2b2f3501136 > > On

Re: [9fans] Perhaps someone can give me an advice ...

For android, you could try to resurrect previous work by Tim Newsham based on Charles Forsyth's styx Java implementation: https://github.com/9nut/styxbrowser/tree/5ed22a9238d7333ff38bc2646aeee2b2f3501136 On Wed, Mar 16, 2022 at 9:37 PM ibrahim via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > > 1. My problem

Re: [9fans] building blocks speaking 9p

I've been working on something along those lines for IoT management and networking. Here's my laundry list of architectural and implementation pieces: 1. authentication: (a) tie devices to owner/user (b) authenticate users against third parties (via OIDC/SAML2, etc), (c) let the authenticated

Re: [9fans] Strange 'uintptr' behavior

maybe a previous fix was not applied? there is a slight difference in the error messages between the address of zeroth element vs first element (see line 9 vs 10 errors below). regardless, it's working as expected on vanilla Plan 9: % cat addrgames.c #include #include void main(int argc,

Re: [9fans] Boot CD chokes

CD's are so 1995. For a quick intro, use a RPi4 with 9pi on a microSD card, and Bob's your uncle. On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 6:36 PM wrote: > On Wed, Dec 29, 2021, at 08:29, Stanley Lieber wrote: > > On December 28, 2021 10:42:27 PM UTC, Humm > wrote: > >>Quoth Duke Normandin: > >>> I'm new to

Re: [9fans] v9fs vs mmap (now SOLVED, we hope)

On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 12:32 PM Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > > $ uname -a > > Linux dell 5.4.0-89-generic #100-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 24 14:50:10 UTC > > 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > That's impressively up to date. I'll see if I can do likewise. > There are times I wonder

Re: [9fans] v9fs vs mmap (not quite SOLVED)

$ uname -a Linux dell 5.4.0-89-generic #100-Ubuntu SMP Fri Sep 24 14:50:10 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux Also, build succeeds when fs is imported from Plan 9 and v9fs mmap cache option enabled. On Wed, Oct 27, 2021 at 11:38 AM Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > > Go built

Re: [9fans] v9fs vs mmap (not quite SOLVED)

I did not. Go built successfully after enabling the v9fs mmap caching on mount! - started diod like this: sudo ./diod -f -d 1 -n -e /home/fst/SRC/tmp - mounted it like this: sudo mount -t 9p -n 127.0.0.1 /mnt/overdiod -o aname=~/SRC/tmp,version=9p2000.L,uname=root,access=user,cache=mmap -

Re: [9fans] v9fs vs mmap (not quite SOLVED)

ist: FAILED: /mnt/overdiod/go/pkg/tool/linux_amd64/go_bootstrap install -gcflags=all= -ldflags=all= -i cmd/asm cmd/cgo cmd/compile cmd/link: fork/exec /mnt/overdiod/go/pkg/tool/linux_amd64/go_bootstrap: no such file or directory On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 12:36 PM Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > accordin

Re: [9fans] v9fs vs mmap (not quite SOLVED)

according to diod docs, mounting diod is similar to what you have: sudo mount -t 9p -n 127.0.0.1 /mnt -oaname=/tmp/9,version=9p2000.L,uname=root,access=user On Tue, Oct 26, 2021 at 12:33 PM Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > Sorry, I was suggesting a potential diagnostic. I was thinking (all &

Re: [9fans] v9fs vs mmap (not quite SOLVED)

Sorry, I was suggesting a potential diagnostic. I was thinking (all steps are on Linux): * clone go * run diod, export / over 9P2000.L * from the same or another linux box, mount diod-exported fs and attempt all.bash I am speculating that if that works, the issue might be with unsupported fs

Re: [9fans] v9fs vs mmap (not quite SOLVED)

I couldn't get this setup to work before when I tried to use git on Linux; there is some sort of race. It may be related to flock support? $ pwd /mnt/9n/usr/fst $ ls -l go ls: cannot access 'go': No such file or directory $ git clone https://go.googlesource.com/go Cloning into 'go'... error:

Re: [9fans] New to plan9

FYI, I have some notes on PXE booting 9pi (Richards' 9legacy 32bit port with 9front wireless support) on various RPi models. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hgcsAgk_FJRYW5r7LVeY23sTZN_giUit-8ra-dlW9ng/edit?usp=sharing On Tue, Oct 19, 2021 at 10:46 AM wrote: > > For PXE boot from a CPU

Re: [9fans] Autoexpand in sam

For sam, the best bet is to feed text into spell and separately use dict for partial word match and definitions. Using acme with aspell and adict helpers (/acme/bin/source) works reasonably well. Select some text, feed it to aspell (>aspell), then do partial lookups of the misspelled words in the

Re: [9fans] porting projects...

The usual way is to layer file-servers to build up the namespace that you need. See tippy (https://github.com/9nut/plan9cmd) for a simple /dev/mouse example. The extended (freerange?) mouse would keep track of off-screen movement and forward them to clients. To complete the picture, mouse clients

[9fans] Software philosophy

I changed the Subject line to better reflect the discussion. Please do go on. On Tue, Aug 17, 2021 at 8:57 PM Lucio De Re wrote: > > On 8/17/21, Keith Gibbs wrote: > > One Plan Nine? > > > > Sure, we have the historical version of the Bell Labs/Lucient codebase, > > preserved as 9legacy, but

Re: [9fans] How to setup wifi on raspberry pi 4

Second question: if the second raspberry pi is running plan9, then you can use import(4); look at the first example in its man page. On Wed, Aug 11, 2021 at 2:09 AM Олег Бахарев wrote: > > Of course I haven't done this yet, but is there any information on how to > write drivers in Plan 9? And

Re: [9fans] sam label and rio snarf buffer

I just realized there was another (earlier) thread on this with similar questions; didn't mean to be badgering you. On Tue, Jul 20, 2021 at 12:23 PM adr via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > > On Tue, 20 Jul 2021, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > what problem did this fix fo

Re: [9fans] sam label and rio snarf buffer

what problem did this fix for you? all the changes seem like bad ideas for general use; e.g. would hiding a sam window show a name other than sam? regarding snarf, couldn't you get what you need by manipulating the namespace with an rc script wrapper? > I changed the last patch so sam wont

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi400 Ethernet

might be this (from the diffs gist i posted earlier): case ODtftpserver: /* RPi4s request it for no-SD netbooting without hardcoding TFTP_IP in EEPROM */ On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 12:13 PM Brian L. Stuart wrote: > > On Friday, May 28, 2021, 2:52:35 PM EDT, Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com>

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi400 Ethernet

Regarding dhcpd, to pxeboot, this diff is needed (also referenced in the previous doc): https://gist.github.com/9nut/5a3829356b6d0ce3ae47e2f390df7442 On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 11:05 AM Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > This might be helpful: > > https://docs.google.co

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi400 Ethernet

This might be helpful: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hgcsAgk_FJRYW5r7LVeY23sTZN_giUit-8ra-dlW9ng/edit?usp=sharing On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 11:00 AM Brian L. Stuart wrote: > > So I picked up a pi400 and everything seems happy > except the Ethernet. I'm using Richard's latest 9pi.img >

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

For future reference, please email cont...@p9f.org if you have any questions for Plan 9 Foundation. On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 11:49 AM Dan Cross wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 2:44 PM Anonymous AWK fan via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> > wrote: >> > This text was generated by the GPT3 text

Re: [9fans] searching advice

what happens if you use mntgen first? mntgen ext2srv mount -c ... # etc On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 3:01 PM ibrahim.a.71 via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote: > > Hi 9fans, > > I'm currently trying plan9. During my test phase I installed 9legacy on qemu. > Everythings works fine but I couldn't master

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

The transfer announced at the beginning of this thread only applies to the code that originated at Bell Labs (i.e. 1ed, 2ed, 3ed, 4ed, etc.) Any enhancements made externally (e.g. tls1.2) or new programs and systems (e.g. abacus) carry whatever the respective authors have released them under. On

Re: [9fans] problem with installing plan9 from USB disk image

I've not tried this, but I think an easier way to play with Plan 9 on Windows 10 might be to use Hyper-V and have the VM boot up from plan9.iso file. On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 12:54 AM wrote: > > I've uncompressed .bz2 but the problem is burning the .ISO file. And I also > have some problem. I

Re: [9fans] Transfer of Plan 9 to the Plan 9 Foundation

A huge Thank You has to go to the Bell Labs alumni who put their support behind the reassignment of the license: http://plan9foundation.org/activities.html -Skip On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 11:08 AM Russ Cox wrote: > > Congratulations, and thank you for the effort this took! > > Plan 9 under such

Re: [9fans] 2c/2l make sense, but why 1c/1l?

I am speculating that it was to support compiling code for a version of the Blit. 630MTG used 68000 and DMD5620 used AT WE3210. gnot used the 68020. On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 11:18 PM wrote: > Hello, > > I'm wondering about the history of the 68000 compiler/tools. Support for > the 68020 makes

Re: [9fans] Better Code Snippets & Suggestions

My first reaction is that an RNN-based code generator trained on a particular dataset (e.g. Plan 9 sources) might be more fruitful. On Mon, Feb 22, 2021 at 3:08 PM William Linkmeyer wrote: > Dearest Nines, > > I’ve been reading these email chains for about three years now. You’ve all > taught

Re: [9fans] APL

Have you seen Rob's Ivy? It's in Go. On Sun, Feb 21, 2021, 2:32 PM Lyndon Nerenberg (VE7TFX/VE6BBM) < lyn...@orthanc.ca> wrote: > Long ago and far away I built/ran Thompson's APL (from the V7 source > tape IIRC) on one of the VAXen. This was very much pre-ANSI C code, > but the Ultrix 1.1

Re: [9fans] Whats the default font in Acme?

If you don't have access to any other truetype fonts, you might want to try Go font to check. Here's the info: https://blog.golang.org/go-fonts On Fri, Feb 19, 2021, 7:48 PM Bakul Shah wrote: > On Feb 19, 2021, at 4:58 PM, cigar562hfsp952f...@icebubble.org wrote: > > > > S

Re: [9fans] Whats the default font in Acme?

Plan9port has fontsrv. Any truetype you have on your system is usable. man fontsrv for details. On Thu, Feb 18, 2021 at 12:32 AM wrote: > Sorry for not being precise. I use Acme from plan9port. > *9fans * / 9fans / see discussions >

Re: [9fans] Whats the default font in Acme?

FYI, bdf2subf is on github also. https://github.com/9nut/plan9 On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 11:40 AM Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Wed, Feb 17, 2021 at 07:14:36PM +, sirjofri wrote: > > > > 17.02.2021 20:06:00 bomb...@gmx.net: > > > And is there a version for high dpi displays? > > > > On 9front

Re: [9fans] patches from 9front

I think the question of whether a patch is applied to the repo or kept as an optional patch should be: does it benefit everyone without breaking anything, fixes a bug, or enhances security? I use 9p.io as a reference for my setup. I appreciate that David has been judicious with the application of

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 Foundation

It is probably fair to say it's harder than setting up an organized church[*] or a Super PAC[**] * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_Lady_of_Perpetual_Exemption ** https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colbert_Super_PAC P.S. For those not familiar with US tax code, politics, or comedy shows: a Venn

Re: [9fans] patches from 9front

no slight to the inventor of dp9ik, but has it been verified? On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 7:48 PM Eli Cohen wrote: > On Tue, Feb 9, 2021 at 7:39 PM Lucio De Re wrote: > > > > On 2/10/21, Eli Cohen wrote: > > > I noticed the patches from 9front to 9legacy are not well-maintained. > I'm > > >

Re: [9fans] GSoC 2021 project ideas (WAS: Re: Plan 9 Applying to GSoC 2021)

Here is some earlier work by Tim Newsham using a styx library by Charles/Vita Nuova: https://github.com/9nut/styxbrowser > Android-related: > > (a) An Android "app" that presents an Android phone's telephone and SMS > messaging facilities as a 9P filesystem. This would enable Plan 9 >

Re: [9fans] Plan9 on Raspberry Pi 400?

n updated eeprom image for it to flash the real eeprom with > but preparing this image doesn't require any h/w access. Unless things > have changed in the last year. > > On Jan 16, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Skip Tavakkolian > wrote: > > regarding /dev/serial, this should be helpfu

Re: [9fans] Plan9 on Raspberry Pi 400?

regarding /dev/serial, this should be helpful for anyone wanting to set up netboot. If you have a number of RPI's that netboot, the way that the common config.txt is segmented for each board is by using the '[serial number in hex]' section headers. Unfortunately, netboot also requires changing

Re: [9fans] Plan9 on Raspberry Pi 400?

To clarify, I build 9pi locally from the latest version of sources. On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, 5:15 PM Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > I'm using a RPi400 with Richard's port. I'm netbooting without issues and > up for days. The only issue I had was forgetting to set 'enable_gic=1' as > Richard i

Re: [9fans] Plan9 on Raspberry Pi 400?

ork, > The line after is the detection of the other three cores. > > The changing of the enable_gic=1 on the 9front image seemed to have to > effect. > > Thanks again! > > Mack > > > On Jan 14, 2021, at 8:15 PM, Skip Tavakkolian > wrote: > > > I'm using a RP

Re: [9fans] Plan9 on Raspberry Pi 400?

I'm using a RPi400 with Richard's port. I'm netbooting without issues and up for days. The only issue I had was forgetting to set 'enable_gic=1' as Richard instructed in the sources. Pi4 works ok without it, pi400 doesn't. On Thu, Jan 14, 2021, 3:39 PM Mack Wallace wrote: > Thank you for the

[9fans] Update on RISC-V port

Dear 9fans, I'm forwarding an update from Richard and Geoff about their work porting Plan 9 to RISC-V. I sent a synopsis on twitter; it is included here with more detail: Synopsis: • 32 and 64 bit kernels (and commands) are working under tinyemu • 64 bit kernel is booting on hardware,

Re: [9fans] Raspberry Pi 4 stability dependent in RAM

I've been using an RPI4B with 4GB as my main term for several months. It pxe boots (no SD card) and I leave the session on, but run screenlock to guard against cat walk (pun?). It has rebooted once, but I'm pretty sure it was due to power fluctuations (didn't see it happen). I built the kernel on

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 announcements on twitter

> > > > BTW, there are two groups on LinkedIn (both named "Plan 9 from Bell > Labs"). One is managed by John Floren and the other by Sergey, Charles and > myself. It probably has the least traffic. (also, perhaps we should combine > them?) > The second LinkedIn group I mentioned also includes

Re: [9fans] Plan 9 announcements on twitter

m?) -Skip On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 10:47 AM Kim Shrier wrote: > > On Nov 12, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Skip Tavakkolian < > skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > FYI, for those of you who are on twitter, I've set up the twitter handle > @Plan

[9fans] Plan 9 announcements on twitter

Hi, FYI, for those of you who are on twitter, I've set up the twitter handle @Plan9_OS to push news and announcements to the community. Please consider following it; and if you tweet about Plan 9 or related topics, please try to include this handle in your announcements. Thanks, -Skip

Re: [9fans] 9term, insta scroll to bottom?

click-hold middle mouse button while in the scroll area and drag it down. On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 1:18 PM Jeremy O'Brien wrote: > On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, at 14:06, Ethan Gardener wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2020, at 2:01 AM, nydldm...@mail.com wrote: > > > Hi, I am an idiot and sometimes I cat

Re: [9fans] Sad news.

Oh wow! That's a terrible loss, and a very sad day for 9fans, especially those who had a chance to meet him in person. He was a genuinely good person. -Skip On Mon, Sep 28, 2020, 11:36 AM Dan Cross wrote: > I just got word that Andrey has passed away. :-( > > I'm sorry, I don't have any

Re: [9fans] Git client

Are there any build instructions? ape/make can't seem to handle the Makefile (sources from git repo) Thanks, -Skip On Sun, Apr 21, 2019 at 4:06 AM Kyohei Kadota wrote: > Hi, 9fans. > > I ported official Git client to 9legacy. It's very early version yet, > but it can do basic commands such as

Re: [9fans] Early version of Floppy Demo

On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 1:31 PM Ethan Gardener wrote: > On Thu, Jul 23, 2020, at 6:50 PM, Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > Going by memory, assuming aux/vga ran, you should be able to type > 8-Alt-1-2 to type 8½ > > You should also be able to start acme or sam instead of 8½. >

Re: [9fans] Early version of Floppy Demo

Going by memory, assuming aux/vga ran, you should be able to type 8-Alt-1-2 to type 8½ You should also be able to start acme or sam instead of 8½. On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 9:58 AM wrote: > Hi, > > I have an early version of the Plan 9 demo (serial number 0561). I'm using > 86Box (Socket 7 VX

[9fans] Re: HOWTO: Net booting Plan 9 on RPi 3s and 4s

there is a cleaner patch now: /n/sources/patch/rpi-netboot-dhcpd On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 6:18 PM Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > The patch is on 9p.io: > > /n/sources/patch/dhcpd-rpi-pxeboot > > > On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 12:43 PM Skip Tavakkolian < > skip.tavakkol...@gma

Re: [9fans] Re: HOWTO: Net booting Plan 9 on RPi 3s and 4s

Fantastic. It has been updated. On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 10:58 AM Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > > I believe RPI3's > > will still require the dhcpd patch, if I'm not mistaken. > > That's right, the pi3 doesn't have an eeprom to hold the tftp ip address. > > An alternative way to

Re: [9fans] Re: HOWTO: Net booting Plan 9 on RPi 3s and 4s

Thank you! I will add them. I'll clarify that TFTP_IP setting will work for RPI4's. I believe RPI3's will still require the dhcpd patch, if I'm not mistaken. On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 4:03 AM Richard Miller <9f...@hamnavoe.com> wrote: > Thanks, Skip. I just net-booted a pi4 using your

[9fans] Re: HOWTO: Net booting Plan 9 on RPi 3s and 4s

The patch is on 9p.io: /n/sources/patch/dhcpd-rpi-pxeboot On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 12:43 PM Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > Note that RPi 4 DHCP requests include a parameter request for TFTP Server > Name (66). There is a link in the doc to the diffs for > /sys/src/cmd/ip/dhcpd/dhcpd.c. I'

[9fans] Re: HOWTO: Net booting Plan 9 on RPi 3s and 4s

Note that RPi 4 DHCP requests include a parameter request for TFTP Server Name (66). There is a link in the doc to the diffs for /sys/src/cmd/ip/dhcpd/dhcpd.c. I'll submit a patch to 9p.io soon. On Wed, Jun 3, 2020 at 11:26 AM Skip Tavakkolian wrote: > > FYI, I've updated the HOWTO to i

[9fans] HOWTO: Net booting Plan 9 on RPi 3s and 4s

FYI, I've updated the HOWTO to include RPi4's. It's here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1hgcsAgk_FJRYW5r7LVeY23sTZN_giUit-8ra-dlW9ng -- 9fans: 9fans Permalink: https://9fans.topicbox.com/groups/9fans/Teeceb2ca38619b36-M7f3d6b2b33089024209a1e60

Re: [9fans] a simple graphical application in Go?

Cool! Thank you. On Sat, Apr 4, 2020, 9:17 PM Fazlul Shahriar wrote: > There is a PR open with Plan 9 devdraw support to 9fans.net/go/draw: > https://github.com/9fans/go/pull/28 > It at least works with the Go acme port Edwood last I tested. > > On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 4:33 PM Jeremy Jackins >

Re: [9fans] a simple graphical application in Go?

I think that's the right place to start. I've not looked closely, but it looks like the only thing that you'd need to do for a client library is to change drawfcall/mux.go:New to use the draw service posted on /srv. On Sat, Apr 4, 2020 at 1:34 PM Jeremy Jackins wrote: > Well, you need a Go

Re: [9fans] Plan9 on virtual machine in Mac os

Harassing part costs extra :) On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 2:36 PM Mark Everett wrote: > Thanks to all. I appreciate your support. And its nice to find a forum > where everyone isn’t harassing….. > > — Mark > > > On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:44 AM, Cyber Fonic wrote: > > As for strings to pull, try: > >

Re: [9fans] Plan9 on virtual machine in Mac os

9legacy.org has readymade images to run on qemu and GCE. http://9legacy.org/download.html On Tue, Mar 24, 2020 at 6:34 PM Mark Everett wrote: > Mostly a lurker so far, but wanted to try the actual system rather than > plan9port. But sometimes getting actual hardware up an running is a steep >

Re: [9fans] iOS drawterm

rummaging around /mnt/term when using drawterm might be enlightening. On Wed, Mar 25, 2020 at 4:20 AM Kim Lassila wrote: > > > On Mar 25, 2020, at 8:19 AM, Anthony Sorace wrote: > > With iOS getting first-class mouse pointer support, I’m looking at the iOS > drawterm port again. Has anyone

Re: [9fans] PoE Support for Plan9 on RPI 4B/3B+?

The PoE hat shouldn't need any software support. I don't have one, but it's basically a DC-DC converter. The Pi PoE hat has an Attiny processor for temperature sensing/fan operation. You can also use a PoE splitter (48V->5V/2.4A micro USB) which would work for all Pi's. -Skip On Mon, Mar 23,

Re: [9fans] upgrading the 9legacy shell (was: Gmail vs Upas)

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 2:47 PM hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > in your words it would be an insult, no? > Of course! How did I miss that?! seriously, i hear only complaints here, meanwhile 9front is doing just > fine. you are deciding against it for non-technical reasons (or > probably

Re: [9fans] upgrading the 9legacy shell (was: Gmail vs Upas)

I can't tell if this is a similitude or an allegory. On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 12:32 PM hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > 6) skip continues to protect the doormat somebody forgot in front, but > he never dared to look up at the long demolished building. --

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